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Over the weekend, Apple journalist John Gruber highlighted a comment made by Tim Cook during an interview with NDTV's Vikram Chandra back in May, in which the Apple CEO was asked what he thought Steve Jobs would make of the Apple Pencil.

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NDTV: Has that voice never come to you? For example when you launched the pencil and you know what Steve said,' if you see a stylus they blew it', when you launched that pencil?

Tim Cook: Well we launched a pencil, not a stylus, first of all, and there's a big difference, and the things that people are doing with this pencil, I think that Steve would have loved. He loved to help people create. And if you've ever seen what can be created with that pencil on an iPad or an iPhone, it's really unbelievable. You should really show some of these to your audience.
Gruber wondered whether Cook had simply misspoken, or if he had perhaps let slip that Apple was internally using the Pencil with its upcoming iPhone.

Apple's Pencil currently only works with the iPad Pro because of the display technology required to achieve the tool's high responsiveness: the iPad Pro's screen features a subsystem which scans the Pencil's signal 240 times per second, enabling it to detect position, force, and tilt at the individual pixel level.

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has previously claimed Apple will release new iPad Pro models next year, but with the fate of the iPad mini uncertain, it's conceivable that Apple may discontinue the tablet and pitch the iPhone 7 as its smallest creative device by adding support for the Apple Pencil. Alternatively, it could restrict support for the tool to the iPhone 7 Plus, which would serve to further differentiate it from the new 4.7-inch handset and give pre-recall users of the Galaxy Note 7 - which has a stylus - another reason to consider switching devices.

Based on display improvements introduced in the 9.7-inch iPad Pro, DisplayMate's Ray Soneira has speculated the iPhone 7 display could include similar features such as True Tone, as Apple often expands display advancements across its entire product lineup. Whether or not this includes the subsystem required to support the Apple Pencil remains unclear.

With just hours to go before Apple's iPhone 7 event, we'll know for sure later today. Apple will provide a live stream of the keynote on the Apple TV and on iOS and Mac devices through its website, starting at 10:00 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will also have full coverage of the event, with a live blog on our front page at MacRumors.com and updates in 140 characters or less through our @MacRumorsLive account on Twitter.

Article Link: Tim Cook Comment Prompts Speculation iPhone 7 Will Support Apple Pencil
 

dumastudetto

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Apple Pencil support would be a good enough reason to upgrade to these new iPhones alone. If Apple does fiind a way to pack that incredible technology into these smaller screen devices, demand for these new iPhones is going to be off-the-charts.

I suspect it may only go into the iPhone 7 Plus model.
 
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I'm waiting for the Pencil2, with magnetic attachment and an eraser mode. It'll need to be a little slimmer, and should support 3D Touch on the iPhone. Just my opinion.
 
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For me Apple Pencil seems to be unpractical to use on an iPhone.
Maybe a smaller version of the Pencil on some 5.5" or bigger iPhone Pro this or next year? Don't know, I think he misspoke.
 
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Apple Pencil support would be a good enough reason to upgrade to these new iPhones alone. If Apple does fiind a way to pack that incredible technology into these smaller screen devices, demand for these new iPhones is going to be off-the-charts.

I suspect it may only go into the iPhone 7 Plus model.
Off the charts? lol. Normal people don't even realize the Apple Pencil exists. Think again
 
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blackcrayon

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Seems like they would need to put out a Pencil mini, maybe 1/2 the length with the same tech. Obviously there wouldn't be a slot to store it in the iPhone so that would at least make it more pocketable... Heh, they could even leave out the pressure sensitivity to make it cheaper since that's already in the iPhone's screen.
 
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And the issue with carrying the pencil around with you?
Replace headphone jack with built in pencil, cough cough, Samsung note.
Now that would be welcomed for the plus model. For me at least.
 
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The pencil goes against everything Steve believed in, anyone who thinks different has no clue

I firmly disagree.

When Steve was talking about the stylus, he was talking about the user interface to control the device. He found that touch was the most intuitive and efficient interface to control a mobile OS, over carrying a stylus and tapping the screen with that. I would agree.

When Tim Cook talks about the Apple Pencil, he's talking about the user interface to draw and add functionality that the finger can't really do. He's not talking about replacing the finger. Most people find that a pencil is the most intuitive and efficient interface to sketch photographs. I would agree.
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Off the charts? lol. Normal people don't even realize the Apple Pencil exists. Think again

Respectfully, the Apple Pencil isn't quite marketed for 'normal people'; it's more of a niche product, specifically for graphic design. Unless every Tom, Dick, and Harry work at Pixar!
 
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Gooberton

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I firmly disagree.

When Steve was talking about the stylus, he was talking about the user interface to control the device. He found that touch was the most intuitive and efficient interface to control a mobile OS, over carrying a stylus and tapping the screen with that. I would agree.

When Tim Cook talks about the Apple Pencil, he's talking about the user interface to draw and add functionality that the finger can't really do. He's not talking about replacing the finger. Most people find that a pencil is the most intuitive and efficient interface to sketch photographs. I would agree.
The problem I see Steve having would be he may want seamless user experience, not carrying a pencil around . With iPad MAYBE I can but what your saying. But 1000% not with iPhone.
 
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keysofanxiety

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The problem I see Steve having would be he may want seamless user experience, not carrying a pencil around . With iPad MAYBE I can but what your saying. But 1000% not with iPhone.

Okay, that makes more sense. Still, even if the Apple Pencil was compatible on iPhone, it doesn't mean you have to carry it around. It's not replacing the existing UI. It just enables an option (drawing) if you need it.
 
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CarpalMac

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Respectfully, the Apple Pencil isn't quite marketed for 'normal people'; it's more of a niche product, specifically for graphic design. Unless every Tom, Dick, and Harry work at Pixar!
That does kind of backup what Gooberton said. Some may like it or have a use for it, but to say that the technology will put the demand for the IP7 "off-the-charts" is more than a slight exaggeration.
 
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peterdevries

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It would be a really good idea. I already have a Pencil for my iPad, but I'd be a lot more inclined to use it if I could jot down notes quickly on my iPhone. Say, force-touch the Notes app and 'New Pencil note' or something.
Yep but Apple needs to find a way to stow the pencil when not used. Because that thing floating in a bag or a pocket is a loss waiting to happen.
 
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Please no pencil support now. That would be the only reason for me to upgrade from my 6s Plus and I planned to keep it for at least three years. :oops:
 
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The pencil goes against everything Steve believed in, anyone who thinks different has no clue

Let me quote...
When Steve said that "if you see a stylus, they blew it", the time was when phones were around 3.5 in display and having a stylus made no sense. You would have to keep a stylus that was bigger than the phone itself and using it was more of a headache. So,Apple went with the Multi touch. Your fingers were enough to explore the 3.5" screen where the applications were limited to calling, texting, browsing and playing games and the iPhones did that well with the hands only.
 
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keysofanxiety

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That does kind of backup what Gooberton said. Some may like it or have a use for it, but to say that the technology behind it will put the demand for the IP7 "off-the-charts" is more than a slight exaggeration.

That's a very fair point!

On another note, either my ignore list is working, or the forums seem very courteous today. Some real thoughtful, polite disagreements. :)
 
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ndalum

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If the iPhone can support a pencil then why can't the iPad support 3D Touch? I actually love 3D Touch on my iPhone
 
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