Apple doesn't - to date - offer anything to replace these antiquated systems though. So there you go...
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Apple doesn't - to date - offer anything to replace these antiquated systems though. So there you go...
I don't contribute to this site often because it is absolutely impossible to write a coherent post where every possible contingency is written in every sentence. We're all here to have a conversation, not belittle someone else who has a differing point of view.
My take is different. I definitely remember the nay-sayers. And, yes, there were lots of them. But the forward thinkers saw where it was going and knew the noise was nothing more than an entire industry getting caught with its pants down and beaten to the punch.
Of course the iPhone did not sell well the first year. Its on-contract subsidized price was way more than than the market was used to at the time and on a service provider that didn't have the best coverage and changed its pricing models yearly to make iPhone even more of a revolving expense. It took a few years for people to understand cell phone pricing models and only very recently in the States has the idea of pre-paid/monthtomonth/off-contract cell phone service become wide spread.
These are all facts we all know, facts which bring me back to my original point regarding Apple Watch. The room for technological growth combined with immediate contribution to daily productivity found in the iPhone and iPad at the time of their release was gigantic. Anyone who couldn't see that was being nothing more than short sighted. What is the room for technological growth and immediate contribution to daily productivity related to Apple Watch? Is there any or is it more of a convenience device? If the former, I have yet to see it. If the latter, the watch will get people in the store, but few of them will be walking out with it.
My take is different. I definitely remember the nay-sayers. And, yes, there were lots of them. But the forward thinkers saw where it was going and knew the noise was nothing more than an entire industry getting caught with its pants down and beaten to the punch.
Of course the iPhone did not sell well the first year. Its on-contract subsidized price was way more than than the market was used to at the time and on a service provider that didn't have the best coverage and changed its pricing models yearly to make iPhone even more of a revolving expense. It took a few years for people to understand cell phone pricing models and only very recently in the States has the idea of pre-paid/monthtomonth/off-contract cell phone service become wide spread.
These are all facts we all know, facts which bring me back to my original point regarding Apple Watch. The room for technological growth combined with immediate contribution to daily productivity found in the iPhone and iPad at the time of their release was gigantic. Anyone who couldn't see that was being nothing more than short sighted. What is the room for technological growth and immediate contribution to daily productivity related to Apple Watch? Is there any or is it more of a convenience device? If the former, I have yet to see it. If the latter, the watch will get people in the store, but few of them will be walking out with it.
The original poster said that 90% of the reviews were overly positive. They weren't. Yes, there were good reviews, but MOST of the reviews were bad. This contradicts with the poster saying only 10% were bad.
I agree with the current state of things, but it looks like they're moving in the right direction with sensors, HealthKit and ResearchKit. Next versions of the watch may be much more powerful and different from other brands. I hope so. But Mr. Ive need to change the watch design, it needs to be slim and futuristic just like nearly any Apple product was since the return of Steve. First iMac was a thing from the future - when all other computers were grey boxes, iMac was so different and futuristic and it was in '98(?). iPhone, iPod, first Airport station, G4 Cube, Power Mac, iBooks, PowerBooks (renamed later to MacBook Pro) all kinds of mouses and trackpad and keyboard - all of these were designed like things of the future not the past. Apple Watch is designed as thing from the past.
Nothing that would cause an IT executive to change anyways....
I suspect Apple isn't terribly interested in gaining the corporate PC market though....hence their focus on mobile via IBM. Why try to enter a market through an old clogged tunnel when you can position yourself to get in through the new highway system.
Ahh, bad analogy but you get the idea. Business is becoming increasingly mobile. Apple positions themselves there where they already have a large base (iPhones and iPads dominate enterprise mobile) and they can take over when things inevitably move that direction.
Of course, there are a variety of facets to corporate IT. I'm talking employee facing devices, not back office infrastructure.
Again, speaking from experience - there's really little reason I use a Windows laptop here at my current office other than that's what we all have and have used. There isn't any specific software that's Windows specific. It would simply be laborious and expensive to replace all this legacy equipment.
Possible, but no one cares enough to do so. Apple simply hasn't given any incentive as you state.
I do want to point out one big example of a massive company run on Apple devices......Apple. They seem to handle "real work" just fine.
You obviously are too young to remember that period.
No, just because you cherry picked one model (that ironically sold very well as it had very good quality sound)
And some other models:
1998
(nice this one for comparison)
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The iphone sold a lot beter, ipad even a lot more. Ipod sales barely moved the first couple of years certainly compared the the market growth and then suddenly sharply increased AFTER they opened it up to USB itunes on windows .
You can believe whatever you want and that firewire or no decent sync software never held the ipod back, but its quite clear of you look at sales numbers.
Nothing that would cause an IT executive to change anyways....
I suspect Apple isn't terribly interested in gaining the corporate PC market though....hence their focus on mobile via IBM. Why try to enter a market through an old clogged tunnel when you can position yourself to get in through the new highway system.
Ahh, bad analogy but you get the idea. Business is becoming increasingly mobile. Apple positions themselves there where they already have a large base (iPhones and iPads dominate enterprise mobile) and they can take over when things inevitably move that direction.
Of course, there are a variety of facets to corporate IT. I'm talking employee facing devices, not back office infrastructure.
Again, speaking from experience - there's really little reason I use a Windows laptop here at my current office other than that's what we all have and have used. There isn't any specific software that's Windows specific. It would simply be laborious and expensive to replace all this legacy equipment.
Possible, but no one cares enough to do so. Apple simply hasn't given any incentive as you state.
I do want to point out one big example of a massive company run on Apple devices......Apple. They seem to handle "real work" just fine.
No - really my point is literal. Apple doesn't offer ANYTHING that could replace the backend systems of banks, wall street, hospitals and many other organizations that have their systems running on PCs with legacy code and programming. (Yes you said this) Decades of bandaids and other solutions to bring their technology up to date, but WAY too expensive and "risky" to eliminate altogether.
So PCs are definitely not going anywhere...
Nope, those people didn't exist according to K995. Everyone loved all of those devices and thought they were useful even before they were released.
The Apple Watch is completely different. It's nothing like any other device Apple has released. They decided they were sick of success and decided to design a flop....ya know, just to shake things up
#SARCASM
Now you are simply making things up never said such a thing.
Ahh who knows at this point....I'm excited for the things I'm looking for in the Apple Watch and couldn't care less what other people think of it.
But when it's released and is a huge success, I don't want to hear any bellyaching.
I apologize, I was being sarcastic. IMO, it is nothing but a gimmick, just like drawing on a 1.5" screen. Any other company would be ripped to shreds for touting this feature.
Thats simply not true, I give a review roundup and all the biggest sites and even the sites he gave that claimed were bad reviews werent.
What was left was one "alternative" voice and once blog post.
The reviews were overwhelmingly possitive for the ipad. It was a simply a great product. Why this need to pretend the ipad was badly recieved?
There's a difference BEFORE and AFTER release.
Positive reviews AFTER iPad release have no bearing here since we are not yet in the time period AFTER Apple Watch release.
Pundits BEFORE iPad release questioned it's utility and place among smartphones and laptops. Pre-release reviews were mixed as a whole at best.
Similarly, Apple Watch reviews are skeptical/mixed. Some good, some see no point. Post-release reviews will be the ones to watch (ha).
Yeah I really see the Apple Watch following the trajectory of the iPad. It won't be the next iPhone. It can't be in it's current form as you need an iPhone to even use it. But I think it will slowly take off with a lot of people wondering why they need one, become quite successful and then level off much like the iPad. The difference for me, at least this time, is that I really knew I wanted an iPhone and an iPad. Most people panned the iPad when it first came out but I was all about that iPad on day one and still get excited about new iPads. The Apple Watch is exciting but I'm not sure if I need one. I could go either way.
If you would just scroll a bit higher you would see.
And what are you excited for?
I own apple stock, i am hoping everyone ion the planet buys one .
I'm a watch fan. I like the idea of various notifications popping up on my Watch. I also like the fitness features. Unlike some here, I see some value in the quick communication features.
Nothing that is ground breaking mind you. But I own iPhones. Android Wear devices don't work with iPhones and devices like the Pebble are ugly and don't seem like they would be enjoyable to use.
Apple Pay and the Apple experience in a watch that looks great sounds appealing to me. I already wear them, why not add some functionality and Apple flare?
Those reviews were in APRIL when people actually got their hands on the iPad. The reviews changed then.
The INITIAL reviews in JANUARY before anyone could touch the iPad were bad. THIS is what we are talking about - reviews of the iPad BEFORE people had a chance to take it home and use it vs. reviews of the Apple Watch BEFORE people had a chance to take it home and use it.
Thank you for the very much NOT needed car analogy which is pointless.
Are you following the thread. Do you understand why there was this line of dialogue. Or perhaps you were skimming?
Then you were talking about previews.
And even these werent so bad as you want to pretend .
I remember the hooplah surrounding the initial release of the iPad. Most of the negative attention came from those expecting it to be an OSX tablet, not an extension of iOS. Everyone else was pretty stoked about it. It flew off the shelves the moment it hit them.
To this day, it remains Apple's first and only true day one success. Even the iPhone took a generation before it caught on.
Comparatively, the iWatch has had a fairly tepid response. It has nothing to do with closed minded naysayers, and "Apple Haters", it's just not that exciting of a product. It's not a bad little device, but it's far from being earth shattering.