This this this so much this. The LCD screens on the iPhones were way better than this OLED monstrosity. If only the rest of the phone weren’t so awesome...
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Tim Cook: iPhone X is a 'Super Bowl Winner' Even if You Wanted It to Win 'By a Few More Points'
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This this this so much this. The LCD screens on the iPhones were way better than this OLED monstrosity. If only the rest of the phone weren’t so awesome...
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WEEKLY unit sales could tally as below and Tim Cook wouldn't be lying
X - 5
8+- 4
8 - 4
7+- 3
7 - 2
6s+ - 4
6 - 1
SE - 1
Where are they boasting about new watch band colors? Bottom line, watch bands cost next to nothing for them to design and the profit margin is gigantic. If there was a legitimate want for new AirPorts they would have made them. Most people are keeping the routers that their ISP give them.
Price is the only "issue" with the X phone. As noted here, it's waaaaay more expensive in most countries than the US, and you hear Americans bleating about its price. With AppleCare, X phone in Australia is way above $2,000 and ordinary buyers I know who upgrades their phones every year or two just got the X phone without considering the 8 or 8 Plus. Never own a phone and upgrade every year are very popular plans in Australia.
Given the outlandish price, the X phone is a phenomenal success!! No, it doesn't sell as many as the 7 and 7Plus combined the previous year - and only an IDIOT would expect it to! There are a lot of not idiots, but so-called experts twisting figures to get attention. And apparently there's enough sheep out there who can't stop to think for a second to say 'that's BS' and go about their business untroubled by attention wh…seekers.
Last year Apple released 3 phones BECAUSE the flagship phone was a bit pricey.
iPhone is still selling in record numbers, which is a testament to the quality and desirability of the device given the cheap alternatives available.
That's all we need to know and Cook is happy to say just that. He's not going to give competitive numbers, in case Samsung decides to introduce a shockingly expensive phone and has the same success.
Suppliers are bleating because they have the same stupid expectation, that they would like Apple to buy more of their most expensive components, based on high early orders and are in total denial that that had anything to do with their poor initial yields.
Anecdotally, people who have no idea how good the tech in the phone is, are getting the X phone because carriers are offering 'the latest iPhone' for just a little bit more monthly. One I know never used Touch ID, but absolutely loves Face ID. These are the 'ordinary' customers that outbuy tech aficionados 100 to 1.
Apple is laughing about how successful the X phone is and unfortunately will be emboldened to create more hideously expensive phones in future. That's the only issue I have with the X phone.
Personally, the OLED screen on my Watch has convinced me that OLED is for the birds and Apple's LCDs are more practical in sunlight. If Apple makes an X replacement for the Plus sized phone, I'd seriously consider an LCD, because the sun is pretty bright in my part of Australia.
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Now, more than ever there's a legitimate need for Apple to have the very heart of our internet connection private and secure - the router. Nobody is buying Airport because it's 5 years out of date and the same price it was 5 years ago.
There's room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - Erro (that's deliberate) requires that you store your password in the cloud, for example. There's plenty of room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - they just choose not to. Let's just hope Apple is out of the router business as much as they were out of the external display business… only until they stopped to think about it.
Why is it that so many people are so quick to include AppleCare like it's a standard part of the device cost? It's an optional feature that goes way above and beyond the warranty of any other phone, so it seems disingenuous to use it as the baseline price of the phone.
It adds $199--or 20%--to the cost of an iPhone X and is unnecessary for most buyers. In my house there are a dozen iOS devices, four Macs, and four Apple routers and I've literally never been in a situation where AC would have saved me anything. I'm thousands of dollars ahead to take the standard warranty.
I think with the new iPhone X form factor, they were hoping for a repeat of the iPhone 6 numbers:
- May 2015 (newest phone: iPhone 6), units sold from a year ago up 40%, up 55% in revenue.
Seems size options are/were more popular than UI changes, hence the multiple sizes being announced later this year?
- May 2015 (newest phone: iPhone 6), units sold from a year ago up 40%, up 55% in revenue.
Seems size options are/were more popular than UI changes, hence the multiple sizes being announced later this year?
I don't know who are buying the iPhone X is huge numbers, but I clearly noticed less iPhone X's in the wild here compared to other iPhone releases, its actually very obvious. In the US its obviously relatively cheaper to buy than in other countries.
YEP ... and that particular week the iPhone X was OUTSOLD 19-1 by all the other models - the iPhone X could very well be the dud of the family.
Not sure what you are looking at but the year-over-year increase in iPhone unit sales was up less than 3% (52.2 million vs. 50.8 million year ago) but iPhone revenues went up 14%. I would say that contradicts your "simple math" analysis. Unless you are looking at the decrease in average price from the previous quarter which, as anyone who looks at stocks, is not a valid comparison unless you can show me that in previous years there has been no change in average price between consecutive quarters? That information isn't hard to find but I know facts are not what you are after.When your average sale price goes down during the sales cycle of a product series, that means your top end product is not selling well. It's simple math.
Timmy clearly does not possess the Reality Distortion Field or mistakenly thinks he does. But no one is buying it.
The reality is this was Apple's best 2nd quarter in the history of the company showing year-over-year revenue growth in all major geographical segments and with increases in all product categories except the Mac (news flash, computers don't sell like they used to, just ask the other guys).
Who's doing the Reality Distortion Field now?
This is the most stupid comment I’ve read in a decade. It’s as if Apple is forcing you to buy iPhone.
You do understand that this is an earnings call to stock holders and if they were to blatantly lie there would be serious consequences, both legal and financial? Don't get me wrong, people have lied on earnings calls in the past, but do you really believe that Tim Cook is lying? Really?
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Now, more than ever there's a legitimate need for Apple to have the very heart of our internet connection private and secure - the router. Nobody is buying Airport because it's 5 years out of date and the same price it was 5 years ago.
There's room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - Erro (that's deliberate) requires that you store your password in the cloud, for example. There's plenty of room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - they just choose not to. Let's just hope Apple is out of the router business as much as they were out of the external display business… only until they stopped to think about it. [/QUOTE]
You are not wrong. Everything you said I agree with. I just cant see them getting back into it because there likely isnt a lot of money to be made. People are sticking with the modem/router that their ISP provides. I cant see them putting money into R&D for it, thats all.
Now, more than ever there's a legitimate need for Apple to have the very heart of our internet connection private and secure - the router. Nobody is buying Airport because it's 5 years out of date and the same price it was 5 years ago.
There's room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - Erro (that's deliberate) requires that you store your password in the cloud, for example. There's plenty of room for Apple to innovate in privacy and security - they just choose not to. Let's just hope Apple is out of the router business as much as they were out of the external display business… only until they stopped to think about it. [/QUOTE]
You are not wrong. Everything you said I agree with. I just cant see them getting back into it because there likely isnt a lot of money to be made. People are sticking with the modem/router that their ISP provides. I cant see them putting money into R&D for it, thats all.
Gee, Gruber is such an arrogant manchild emotionally invested in a mega corporation -- its hilarious! He's a bad look for Apple imo,
Check out his latest blogpost on-
daringfireball.net
"So much for all that horsesh*t about iPhone X sales being disappointing — average sales price for iPhones is way up year-over-year."
scroll down a little, from merely days ago:
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SAMSUNG SEES SLOW DEMAND FOR OLEDS USED FOR APPLE’S IPHONE X ★"
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Starting to sound like iPhone X sales really are falling short of expectations. You often can’t judge iPhone sales from the perspective of a component maker, because Apple could have switched to another company for the same component. But these flexible OLED displays only come from Samsung. Apple reports earnings for the first calendar quarter on Tuesday."
When he isn't busy rambling about politics like a CNN jockey, he's contradicting himself.
PRICELESS
How silly you look. No matter how much you write, how much caps you use, or how many words you bold — the iPhone X will be a success.
Just being out and about in the city I see tons of X’s, I don’t have to take cook’s word that it sold well.
Keep trying, tho.
They already spend an insane amount on R&D and the buybacks are excess cash that should be given back to shareholders.
As a competent shareholder, I LOVE the buyback. LOVE.
[doublepost=1525226848][/doublepost]Funny to see people still saying iPhone X isn’t selling well despite facts and Apple telling us it’s the best selling phone since release, LOL!!!
What are you talking about? It works perfectly all the time. I use it for every purchase that I can, which is usually 80%.
It’s a huge success and the best selling phone in their lineup since release and THE best selling phone in China.
Do you even look at the numbers? How do you think they grew iPhone revenue 14% y/y?
You have no idea how silly you sound for pounding the table that it’s a failure despite all the facts, evidence, statements, earnings, etc.
Btw, you will see a phone likely more than $999 and the current X isn’t going away because it wasn’t a success. It’s just not going to be there in its current form as to not cannabilize the iPhone 11, or whatever it’s called.
You’re going to have multiple choices and dropping this X $100 isn’t going to make sense with the future lineup, that simple.
I guess you don't comprehend the numbers. ASP is dropping, ergo, X sales are dropping. It may still be outselling the other models but its pickup rate IS dropping faster than the others. Cooks numbers support that, but he can't come out and say that in lay terms.
Is so,done making you buy a phone every year?
I’m certainly happy with my annual products and my stocks.
I’m certainly happy with my annual products and my stocks.