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I'm glad that Apple finally released a battery case to be honest but yeah...it's seriously quite ugly in photos. Maybe it'll look better in person? I wouldn't be against it if I didn't have a plus, but it wouldn't tempt me either. Apple can design better I think.
 
It doesn't doesn't do the job it was designed for. If you search on amazon you will find a plethora of charging cases designed to charge the phone from zero to 100% in various sizes. I think they all do the job better. The bigger ones can keep the phone charged for days.
Sorry but just because it has an Apple logo in it doesn't make it good or functional.
Because of the Apple logo it probably uses a good quality battery unlike the plethora of crappy cases you could find on amazon.
 
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Because of the Apple logo it probably uses a good quality battery unlike the plethora of crappy cases you could find on amazon.
So your position is if it has a Apple logo on it then it better than all others?
 
It doesn't doesn't do the job it was designed for. If you search on amazon you will find a plethora of charging cases designed to charge the phone from zero to 100% in various sizes. I think they all do the job better. The bigger ones can keep the phone charged for days.
Sorry but just because it has an Apple logo in it doesn't make it good or functional.
It was designed to extend the battery life of the iPhone. It does that. Just because other chargers have bigger batteries and extend the battery life further doesn't mean that the Apple case doesn't work. Your statement is a bit like claiming a 1 gallon bucket doesn't work because a 2 gallon bucket can carry twice as much.

So your position is if it has a Apple logo on it then it better than all others?

No, but it's far less likely that they used shoddy materials than a no-name brand. That said, Apple imposes standards for the MFI program, so there are a number of reputable battery cases besides Apple's.
 
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considering their history I'd say yes.

They have plenty of duds in their history... Check again.

And we are now starting to see products that fully came to being under Tim Cooks watch. This one is not something I would have ever believed could have been designed by Apple. Honestly... when I first saw the picture I thought it was a spoof... a joke. I don't believe Jobs would have even allowed Apple to make battery case at all, especially one that is designed so badly. This looks like a proof of concept prototype designed to just validate function, before the visual design team even started.
 
It was designed to extend the battery life of the iPhone. It does that. Just because other chargers have bigger batteries and extend the battery life further doesn't mean that the Apple case doesn't work. Your statement is a bit like claiming a 1 gallon bucket doesn't work because a 2 gallon bucket can carry twice as much.



No, but it's far less likely that they used shoddy materials than a no-name brand. That said, Apple imposes standards for the MFI program, so there are a number of reputable battery cases besides Apple's.
You set your standards very low for Apple. The basic premise of the battery case is to charge the phone. So on that level it does just that. If that is the bar you set for Apple and the products you buy then please buy one and enjoy!
Most on this thread has voiced their displeasure with the design and functionality of the new Apple Smart case.

You and Max(IT) fit the Apple fan stereotype. If it has an Apple logo on it then it must be the best of its class in the product space it was launched in. Wrong in so many ways.....
 
Apple are losing the ****ing plot! Grasping at straws and not doing very well at it... like a lot of other stuff. They might have the money, but they ain't got any ideas...

Rant Rant Swear. Pointless and utterly wrong.

There is no accounting for taste. I mean, seriously, anyone who thinks the design is OK...

Yup it's fine minimalistic and feels great. Serves a purpose for some people.
 
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You set your standards very low for Apple. The basic premise of the battery case is to charge the phone. So on that level it does just that. If that is the bar you set for Apple and the products you buy then please buy one and enjoy!
Most on this thread has voiced their displeasure with the design and functionality of the new Apple Smart case.

You and Max(IT) fit the Apple fan stereotype. If it has an Apple logo on it then it must be the best of its class in the product space it was launched in. Wrong in so many ways.....
That's not what I said at all. There is nothing magical about being able to charge an iPhone from 0-100% vs. 0-80%. If the phone lasts most of the day without it, most likely it will last the entire day or even more with it. That's functional. Those other cases you mentioned are heavier than Apple's case, require Micro-USB adapters, don't show their charge levels in Notifications, don't have built-in antennas, and in some cases don't do as good a job protecting the iPhone from drops because they are hard and non-malleable (silicone and the fabric inside of the Apple case softens the blow from falls). Whether that is worth $99 is up to the buyer. I haven't actually purchased one, but am thinking about getting one as a gift for someone else.

They have plenty of duds in their history... Check again.

And we are now starting to see products that fully came to being under Tim Cooks watch. This one is not something I would have ever believed could have been designed by Apple. Honestly... when I first saw the picture I thought it was a spoof... a joke. I don't believe Jobs would have even allowed Apple to make battery case at all, especially one that is designed so badly. This looks like a proof of concept prototype designed to just validate function, before the visual design team even started.

It's an accessory. How did the iPod Socks fit into Steve Jobs' philosophy? How about the hockey puck mouse?

As for products that fully came to being under Tim Cook's watch, we have the Apple Watch, 4th generation Apple TV, 12" MacBook, and cylindrical Mac Pro. All of those display the same minimalist touch that Apple is known for.
 
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I'm seriously starting to facepalm when I see Apple gear these days.

Had this very conversation with somebody just the other day. Some of the stuff Apple have come out with recently has been really, really dumb, ugly and/or unnecessary. I completely understand that the company had to move on from Steve Jobs and his 'vision' but I'm concerned this means Apple products losing their 'innovative' appeal, taking into account some of the products we've seen recently which, excuse this next over-used statement, likely wouldn't have happened under Jobs.
 
That's not what I said at all. There is nothing magical about being able to charge an iPhone from 0-100% vs. 0-80%. If the phone lasts most of the day without it, most likely it will last the entire day or even more with it. That's functional. Those other cases you mentioned are heavier than Apple's case, require Micro-USB adapters, don't show their charge levels in Notifications, don't have built-in antennas, and in some cases don't do as good a job protecting the iPhone from drops because they are hard and non-malleable (silicone and the fabric inside of the Apple case softens the blow from falls). Whether that is worth $99 is up to the buyer. I haven't actually purchased one, but am thinking about getting one as a gift for someone else.



It's an accessory. How did the iPod Socks fit into Steve Jobs' philosophy? How about the hockey puck mouse?

As for products that fully came to being under Tim Cook's watch, we have the Apple Watch, 4th generation Apple TV, 12" MacBook, and cylindrical Mac Pro. All of those display the same minimalist touch that Apple is known for.
Lol you have indeed set the bar extremely low for Apple. If you indeed see no difference then why discuss this at all?
Whatever Apple says is truth to you. Whatever product they release is the best to you. So go buy the smart case and enjoy!
 
Lol you have indeed set the bar extremely low for Apple. If you indeed see no difference then why discuss this at all?
Whatever Apple says is truth to you. Whatever product they release is the best to you. So go buy the smart case and enjoy!
In case you missed it, I said I haven't bought this. I don't really see the need for any battery case given my use case. If I did, I don't see the need for a massive case that powers the phone for multiple days.
 
I just got this case, and after using it for a day, I like it. If Apple had managed to build in an extender for the headphone jack, I would have no complaints at all. I would much rather have a thicker 6S with more battery, but since that's not an option, this is better than existing battery cases (which are too thick/bulky, and a pain to install/remove) and preferable to carrying around a separate battery charger (and I have plenty). You can quarrel with the design, materials/color (I'd prefer something slightly less tacky; this picks up a lot of lint and dust) and capacity, but as to capacity, I don't want to carry the most extra battery, just the least extra battery that will get me through the day without recharging all the time. There's no comparison between this and the plastic-sled Mophies I've owned in the past - yes, there's the "hump", but otherwise just a thin case that has some extra length. For what it's worth, it feels very solid. It does add noticeable weight, but that's unavoidable. Yes, the price is high, but that's the Apple tax.
 
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In case you missed it, I said I haven't bought this. I don't really see the need for any battery case given my use case. If I did, I don't see the need for a massive case that powers the phone for multiple days.
I think these are more for power users. I don't think you are a power user so you're right you would not need one.
 
Why are people always bring the very nice emergency charging of the ApplePencil as a fail? It is for EMERGENCIES not the normal way to charge it...


Not always the case (no pun intended). Mophie gives a button to select this of course. Set for one way and it sits there and is just a case really. But since it being used on way or the other its used in pass through method commonly flicking the switch.. It supplements the phone battery till, in the words of Scotty, she has no power. Then phone runs under own power. Case of extensive use like my wife can have this has the phone last much longer.




Won't debate the apple should have made it 1mm thicker raised in thread a few times. Will argue less power in phone has major issue of by and large its almost impossible to keep its storing max power apple has spec'd out over time. Batteries to keep high charge need to be discharged. Fully. As seen in the MBP/MB thread when a new user goes why is my battery monitor application saying my max power store is xyz....and on a full charge its some value beneath that.

Stock answer given is to do a periodic proper discharge. Run the MBP, or IPAD, or any device really (I discharge my camera gear periodically as well) till it dies. Get a 20 minute warning...push beyond that...you want this stone cold cut off.

Then....let it sit in that state a few hours. 5-8 hours values I have seen. You want unseen power draw (system level stuff that happens when the screen is blank) truly draining the battery.

Then do a full recharge. This keeps a battery healthy and storing as much power as it can long term. This helps keep it storing max (or close) to the day 1 spec the device is rated for.

Problem with phones is they are really hard device to do this on. This whole process can take say 8+ hours. hard to implement as you will go dark and be off the grid for that whole time. So many never do a full discharge. Over time...phone batteries see their max storage eroded away the result.

Enter the battery/juice/etc packs. They fill in that gap that expands more and more over time. Needed as not all rush to the apple store on new phone release. We (wife and I) tend to skip every other release. japan cellular plans tend to have a crappy structuring and if phone turned in to soon (based on date plan started)...we pay more to break the old contract for the new phone contract. Going to another place not an option....that contract breaking cost still happens. Tl;dr....2-3 years of max phone battery charge erosion can and will happen.
 
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Anyone actually buy one? I may have missed that in 19 pages of strong opinions. I am just curious how it is day to day. I would consider it since it would be nice for oversees travel and long flights and I like that it has a lightening port and iOS integration. Sure, this case is not beautiful but that does not bother me.
 
I can point out other recent "Apple Design Failures" since Jony Ive isn't directly in charge:
- Way of charging the Magic Mouse 2 (placing the Mouse upside down, forcing the user to stop using it)
- Way of charging the Apple Pencil (protruding out of the iPad Pro)
- No way of storing the Apple Pencil on/with the iPad Pro
- Having to remove a cap to charge the Apple Pencil (since when Apple produced detachable and losable products?)
- Way of extending iPhone 6S battery power (this looks like an afterthought solution)

It seems like Apple recently hired junior designers...

Oh, it's far worse than even you can imagine. It started right when Ive was still in charge:
  • A Mac without a floppy drive.
  • A MacBook without an optical drive.
  • A smartphone without physical keyboard, replaceable battery or SD card slot.
  • An iPad that was really just a big iPod touch.
No, no, Apple's decline started loooong ago. And consider how much more junior those junior designers would have been back then!

The only consolation is that the sharp people on Internet forums with their keen eye for design and utility and their ability to "think different" have always been merciless at exposing the never ending string of missteps on Apple's part, to the great benefit of the Apple user community.
 
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The first thing that came to my mind was this:

Apple_battery_case.png


Photoshopped this by myself.
 
Now what would be cool is if Apple could do some battery longevity management when using this case. A lithium battery prefers to live in the 10-90% range. 100% is ok for short times, but shouldn't sit at it (esp when hot/cold).

If this could let the first 90% drain off the internal battery, then use the external battery, then the remainder it would help the phone life. Even better if it has an option to not charge the phone over 90%.
 
No matter what the product is? To you if it has a Apple logo on it then by virtue of that logo....it is a better product than all others? Is that you position?
You know perfectly well what I meant.
It's not the logo.
It's the company behind the logo.
Apple has a tradition to use excellent batteries in their devices.
I would trust that more than the zillion of cheap (and even not so cheap) Chinese products on the market.
 
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