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I love my 6+ but I find it too bulky to run with. I can see spending $350+ for the Apple watch if it could track my run without carrying the 6+ along too, but I'm not reading anything about addressing this issue.

What do you mean by track your run? You can use the Apple Watch as pedometer, calorie counter and heart rate sensor without an iPhone present and then sync that up to the Health app when they reunite.

If you're looking to map out your run or get directions via GPS while doing it you'll need to bring your iPhone with you.
 
that's a bold statement

Yes it is, I hope Tim is right and this will be one of the products you will wonder how you could live without it.
Right now I am not sold for two reasons. It's not waterproof so i can't take everywhere since I spend too much time on water and it relies too on the iPhone.
Still, I am excite for one day maybe have one.
 
I suppose, to me it smacks a bit of dubious marketing by saying how amazingly accurate a time keeping device it is, when it's only accurate when it gets it's time off the internet.

You could call a old pc an amazingly Accurate timekeeping device then.

It's a shame when you are having to in effect make stuff up like this.

I believe it was a poster on here who made that comment. Not sure if Apple did in marketing. But it's hardly a lie. When Tissot released their watch that synced with satellites they marketed it for travellers who needed accurate time at any location on the planet. That's what the Apple Watch does. If you want to know that your watch is accurate, you don't really want to have to compare it with the nightly news like we used to do. Knowing it's connected means you know it's accurate. Not having to wind it around to a different time zone also makes it more accurate as you're not on a plane guessing the exact minute and second of your new time.

Appreciate the technology. This device doesn't knock Omega off its perch of top end watch maker. It just provides the peace of mind that you are definitely seeing the correct time when you look at your watch. Makes perfect sense to me.
 
People are being ridiculous. Human civilization has survived for a long time without an Apple watch, and you will continue to be just fine without one.

If you don't want it, great. I, however, am trying to figure out how to get one after I pay my taxes on the 15th.
 
And just how many of those millions own watches that last several months, years, forever on batterys or automatic movements then. Replace your watch with a device that mimcs your smartphone and lasts less then a day.

Smartwatches are going backwards in technology, not forwards.

I agree, I think it's a sign of stagnation and lack of imagination at Apple. These aren't the Steve Jobs days, and I'm betting there is no secret that's going to make this anymore than a crappy wannabe runner's watch/mapper. Tim is the same guy that told us 2014 was going to bring the most innovative products Apple ever made. Well, it's 2015 and we can judge his words--it turned out he was talking about a giant phone. A nice phone, yes, but nothing new or particularly interesting. This life changing Apple watch is likely going to be about the same.
 
What do you mean by track your run? You can use the Apple Watch as pedometer, calorie counter and heart rate sensor without an iPhone present and then sync that up to the Health app when they reunite.

If you're looking to map out your run or get directions via GPS while doing it you'll need to bring your iPhone with you.

Will it have a GPS receiver? If not, it's more useless than I imagined.

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When the iPhone was announced, I couldn't justify owning one. I've now had four, and they changed parts of my life.

When the iPad was announced, I couldn't justify owning one. I've now had two, and they've changed parts of my life.

When the Apple Watch was announced, I couldn't justify owning one.

I wanted an iPhone from the second it was outed, six months before it was released.



I didn't think the iPad would take off like it did, not because it wasn't cool, but I didn't think people would pay the price. I also thought they were gimping it by making it a consumption device and not something to produce content. Still, the point is, I "got" the appeal of the iPad.



This Apple watch I do not get at all. Why would I want it? What does it do that's cool or new? It seems just like Galaxy Gear (pointless).
 
Apple is a normal consumer mass, and I mean MASS market brand.

Rolex is not.
True, but many Rolex customers aren't watch snobs, they're just rich.

I worked for a company that manufactured watch winders. We had a ton of customers that had no problem dropping $12k on a Tag Heuer they barely knew anything about. When you're in the one percent, there are only so many ways you can spend your money. Some of them buy extra cars, some buy extra watches, some buy extra gadgets. Whether they classify the aWatch as a gadget or a "real" watch doesn't make much difference.
 
When Tissot released their watch that synced with satellites ...

Satellites for sure, or with ground based radio stations like WWVB and DCF-77?

they marketed it for travellers who needed accurate time at any location on the planet. That's what the Apple Watch does.

My $80 Casio does that too. Accurate time with no more of a second deviation in 5 million years. It's also water and shock resistant, and never needs winding or battery changing, and it switches back and forth between regular time and DST by itself as well.
 
Problem is if it's used as much as Tim Cook indicates it can be, then battery life will be horrendous. If it's not used that much then it won't 'change lives' by becoming an indispensable piece of technology so will be perceived as flawed.

I'm all for a watch made by Apple, but I don't believe battery technology is able to support it, in 2/3 years time (with further processor power reductions and screen technology developments) then possibly.

Well how much are you using it at one time? I doubt people will be staring at their watch for long periods of time. It's quick interactions.
 
The GPS doesn't have to be on all the time - just when you run an App that uses it when your phone isn't nearby.

Still seems like a miss, and I bet we see it added in the next model.

Considering Apple is positioning this as as a fitness device why would they leave out GPS if it wasn't a battery life issue?
 
True, but many Rolex customers aren't watch snobs, they're just rich.

I worked for a company that manufactured watch winders. We had a ton of customers that had no problem dropping $12k on a Tag Heuer they barely knew anything about. When you're in the one percent, there are only so many ways you can spend your money.

A Rolex is hardly one percenter stuff. Hell I have one that I snagged at an estate sale. Move it up to Patek Philippe and we'll talk about one percenter watches :eek:
 
The Apple watch sounds like it's the perfect solution for a problem that doesn't exist...
 
And just how many of those millions own watches that last several months, years, forever on batterys or automatic movements then. Replace your watch with a device that mimcs your smartphone and lasts less then a day.

Smartwatches are going backwards in technology, not forwards.

Apple Watches are going back in technology.

Some smart watches last for days (the Pebble & Kairos wathch)...and the most power hungry last at least one day. I can't think of another smart watch that has a worse battery time than the Apple Watch.

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He took the criticism to heart and is trying to hard to prove he is as innovative as steve jobs.

He is more like Steve Ballmer than Steve Jobs. :(
 
Satellites for sure, or with ground based radio stations like WWVB and DCF-77?



My $80 Casio does that too. Accurate time with no more of a second deviation in 5 million years. It's also water and shock resistant, and never needs winding or battery changing, and it switches back and forth between regular time and DST by itself as well.

Right... so...
 
I can't think of another smart watch that has a worse battery time than the Apple Watch. :(

Probably because you don't actually know what the battery live will be. Battery life isn't everything. It needs to be good enough, sure. But a single days use might actually be good enough or an acceptable compromise if the device actually does 'improve your life'.

A year would be nice. Or solar powered that lasts forever. We're not there yet and the current device does more than other smart watches. It's also the most discussed smart watch ever. The interest is there. The Apple watch has a future if Apple apply the same innovation principles as they do with their other IOS devices.
 
Probably because you don't actually know what the battery live will be. Battery life isn't everything. It needs to be good enough, sure. But a single days use might actually be good enough or an acceptable compromise if the device actually does 'improve your life'.

Well, we do know that Apple stated that it should last around 19 hours...and 19 hours is the worst battery time for a smart watch (based on reviews I've read).
 
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