You could tell all that from the video? You could tell how they were behaving before being asked to leave? Or do you see a black person being asked to leave and simply assume a racist motive? Isn't it far more likely they were asked to leave because they were a bunch of school kids messing about. If they had been white we would not have heard anything about it because people wouldn't be so willing to jump to conclusions.
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Tim Cook Reminds Employees 'Apple Is Open' After Australian Retail Store Employee Bars Black Teens
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You could tell all that from the video? You could tell how they were behaving before being asked to leave? Or do you see a black person being asked to leave and simply assume a racist motive? Isn't it far more likely they were asked to leave because they were a bunch of school kids messing about. If they had been white we would not have heard anything about it because people wouldn't be so willing to jump to conclusions.
The thing about it is that though this is surrounding the race, it would be the same with anyone else. Yes I absolutely got that they were asking why they were told to leave and the person replied with they were being suspected of going to steal. Did you not hear that part? Did you not hear the part when they didn't even try to give the reason for telling them to leave? Imagine if someone close to you was told to leave the store with what you've seen, would you tell them that the store was justified in their actions and they should have just left? Even though they asked "why"? Extremely suspect in my opinion.. and once again, why would Apple release such statements unless theres some validity in the suspicion of the video?
Again people try to validate and throw smoke screens of, "oh you didn't see what happened prior to." Don't Apple stores have cameras? I think they do so SURELY the management can back up their actions with video of the suspicious acts. Smoke screen statements don't derail/divert me from obvious things.
You're right but I live in the UK as well and the only stores you might find groups of proper 'ghetto' teenagers are in London. Outside of this (I'm thinking Brighton, Manchester, Bath, Glasgow, Exeter) you simply do not tend to have the type of 'ghetto' people that you get in The States. Apparently, Australia has at least one pack of them.
By the way, there's nothing "racist" about that Australian Apple Store video. In fact people are being racist against the Apple Store employee by claiming he was being racist when there is no evidence to support such a claim.
I think the security guard asked them to leave, and the manager came to explain why (because they're black, basically).
Have you actually read about the original story?
Well apart from the fact he asked them to leave, because they might steal something..... and when asked "why might we steal something?" he decline to answer.
We all know his answer was "because you're black" but then thought better of it.
Seriously, get off that high horse of yours. You honestly think that skin colour had anything to do with this? I've seen tons of white kids removed from stores in my lifetime and thats around Europe and US. Most of the times its kids just hogging the display units be it computers or consoles or what not. Then there are the older groups of kids with backpacks who gather around each other blocking the view from store clerks in effort to steal something. Apparently this is very popular tactic.
Our recent Prime Minister who was recently VOTED OUT of THE top job? - poor example as he has, well, been voted out of that very position due partly (or mostly?) to his archaic, backward-thinking position on many relevant & contemporary issues here in Australia.
And your pathetically generalised view on the Australian perspective via people you know is just plain, simply wrong. There are indeed pockets of people in every country opposed to immigration and refugees. When talking to those minority groups you will, of course, find support for whatever limited view you want when opposing immigration.
Open your mind and talk to the many...
No, its most likely because they were acting in suspicious manner. Commonly it is group of kids gathering around a display stand and blocking the view from the staff. One kid in the middle stuffs his/her back with products after which the whole group leaves the store. Very hard to catch.
Well my comments did not mention any race issue. As you yourself state, the person in the video clearly articulates that there is a concer that the kids will steal. No proof, just an accusation and then out. As I stated in other posts, I would be totally fine if the person had said, you are disturbing the other customers and you are generally bring unruly so you need to go. But that is not what was said. The words used are is definitely a firing offense.
I'd take it over adele any day.
There have been one or two good rap songs made a long time ago.
I don't care for Adele, either.
Well, think of it from business perspective. You don't throw out paying customers ever. On the other hand if the kids are not allowing you to conduct your business or if they are putting your business in jeopardy you get rid of them. This is very basic logic, everyone should understand that. Occam's razor.
Let me ask you this, is there anything suggesting that these kids were thrown out due to their skin colour other than your own prejudice. Throwing out paying customers makes no sense. If they were not paying then I see no problem.
So people who like rap music are thieves now?
This is the thread that just keeps on giving.
That doesn't answer the question, stop trying to argue a straw man.
They were asked to leave because they "might steal something"
The manager when asked why they might steal something, declined to answer........ there isn't really anymore to it than that, but its pretty obvious what he meant.
Reminds me of the Hands up don’t shoot movement and organizers, who are never to be found at one of the daily shootings of Americans, white or black, by other AA.
Facts have always been inconvenient to folks with extreme views, typically driven by emotional gut feelings and propaganda.
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Indeed it was obvious, they’re teenagers who were probably loitering in the store. The actual racism is the baseless assumption that because they are black and the manger is white, he must have been racist.
I think we saw precisely just how successful Europe’s failed integration is going this week - No Thanks!
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It's always good for a laugh when you get an Australian lecturing others on integration.