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Tim Cook Says 250 Apple Employees Are 'Dreamers' as Donald Trump's Decision on DACA Nears
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If the Turkish ambassador commits a crime on US soil, he is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. And if he fathers a son or daughter, the child does not become a citizen, because the child also enjoys immunity from prosecution.
Nope.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...-false-lamar-smith-claim-one-third-federal-i/
Again, there was no backdoor for these people. DACA was limited to children who arrived before mid-2007.
You keep making a point that is moot. Whether they were cognizant of the illegality of entering the US or not is irrelevant.
They are in the US illegally. They're remained in the US illegally. The very youngest DACA eligible individual would be a little over 10 years old today and the very oldest could be just over 36 years old. Assuming an even distribution of ages, a substantial portion of the group are adults today.
Yes, it's crappy position the kids parents put them into. Doesn't mean we perpetuate the problem by just turning a blind eye to it. Congress needs to come up with a solution.
Splitting hairs. Yes, it's in the 14th amendment. It's also related to immigration law. Changes to both begin in Congress, although there's an alternate method for an amendment to be proposed.
For vetted it is disturbing. I would have expected much lower.
Still, you asked for some numbers and this is what I found.
So you refer to your own comment? After all, mine was on point. Cook needs to run his company, not the nation.
You just repeated the same thing again. When we are discussing whether or not it should be relevant, it certainly is relevant to the discussion. Your entire argument is begging the question.
You are trying to do the same thing as Republicans in Congress. Avoid the simple, moral question of whether or not a person deserves to be punished for something done to them as a child by hiding behind the lack of current law, slippery slope arguments, and partisan quackery.
Which shows that it's not a significant issue. The boogeyman immigrant has been completely overblown.
The solution that Trump wants is called deportation.
Not true. Don't confuse DACA that are/became criminals with illegal immigrants that are/became criminals. Two very different animals.
Try Texas: (ARTICLE). The numbers are scary.
There are too many boogeymen in politics today. Immigrant boogeyman. Muslim boogeyman. Welfare boogeyman. BLM Boogeyman.
We need to call in Baba Yaga. Kill all the boogeymen and get back to discussing the actual issues with empathy and rationality.
I didn't confusing anything. I understand that DACA is separate, which is what this thread is about.
As for your second link, that's over 6 years. You also need the total number of aliens in TX.
That's what happens when you keep repeating yourself; you get the same response.
What's scary about that? That's 38,333 arrests a year for 1.65 million illegal immigrants.
Versus 850,000 arrests for 25 million Texans overall.
2.3% V 3.4%. Illegal aliens were less likely to be arrested than the average Texan.
This thread is about DACA. True.
Criminal percentage of illegal aliens is a relevant topic when it is discovered that DACA does have criminal elements in spite of vetting. It also alludes to many folks stance when they see or are affected by illegal alien criminal elements. This can affect the "what to do" outcome.
Still, we should focus on what to do with DACA members.
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Nice try on deflecting and trying to minimize the numbers.
Want sympathy or agreement? Try arguing that topic with the Texas government. I would say they have a very expensive illegal alien issue on their hands.
So if Texas had no illegal alien problem it wouldn't affect their criminal problem?
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[QUOTE="Flight Plan]It's his personal opinion. Lay off his party; you probably don't even know which it is.[/QUOTE]
It's obvious which party it is, don't be so naive.
It's obvious which party it is, don't be so naive.
ROTFLMAO.
96% of the worlds population is outside of the USA
Apple makes most of its money outside of the USA
Asia is where the market growth is, and they account for 60% of the worlds population
Chinas economy if not already, will soon be bigger than the USA (the EU will eventually become 2nd largest)
The USA economy makes up only 20% of the worlds GDP (and falling).
Trade with China is more important to other countries than trade with the USA.
The US problem is not if they should block China, its what happens if China blocks the USA.
The very worst that will happen is US corporations will split in two, something like Apple USA and Apple international.
ALL of the worlds products will still be made in China
US products will be made perhaps in Brazil, Mexico, Taiwan, Singapore, etc , or if made in the USA , they will be more expensive than the rest of the world and they may arrive after the rest of the world, i.e. USA 2nd, at best.
HOWEVER, Boeing, etc etc etc may find they are locked out of the Asian market and perhaps large chunks of the world market putting over US$2 Trillion is exports at risk.
The USA has far more to loose than China.
Wow. Now back to reality...
Side comment: A significant portion of the Chinese economy is based on export. The world markets would crash. Then you have we stop shipping (China) vs. we stop all exports now. Two very different topics. In the end, the world is so intertwined you would have a world economy crash, including China. It's a lose lose.
I am very sick of this perspective that white/Europeans have an uniquely terrible history:
1) There was NO genocide in the Americas;
- There was a war of conquest; which is deplorable by TODAY's standards; but was commonplace at the time
- Most of the native american fatalities were caused by a smallpox plague. (>85% of all fatalities)
You generally cannot "blame" the introducing factor for the death toll of a plague; especially before humans had any knowledge of how diseases were spread. Unless you want to "blame" the Chinese and the Arabs for introducing the black plague to Europe? The plague killed 50-100 Million Europeans, (compared to 5-10 million Native Americans that were killed by the smallpox epidemic)
Yes, the Europeans engaged in a war of conquest in the Americas; again, this is deplorable today; but if we are going to lay blame for historic injustices, where are the Europeans' reparations from China for the Mongol invasions? Were they not also wars of conquests? What about the Muslim invasions of Spain and European Byzantium (which no longer exists) does Egypt owe the Spanish? - Or the earlier Persian invasion of Greece? An influx of Iranian reparations would do wonders for the Greek economy right now.
2) You cannot really equate the European invasion of the America's to today's illegal immigration, at least not in the way you would want to.
-The Native Americans had EVERY RIGHT to resist the European settlers.
-The Native Americans DID resist the Europeans, they engaged in WAR (many varying sized military conflicts) to stop the Europeans
-The Native Americans, unfortunately for them, failed to resist the invasion.
So to equate these; would the US then not have the same right to resist unwanted immigration?
*I'm NOT saying that these behaviors are good, or just; simply that we should judge the actions of the past by the standards of the past; and to use the same criteria in judging all peoples past actions. We should not hold special blame for one race of people for their primitive behavior, while giving a "pass" to other peoples similarly primitive behavior.
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If only that representation didn't voice so much vitriol. Guess there's a fine line between hope for a few and despair for absolutely everyone else.
Amen. I am 5th generation immigrant by which I mean that myself and each generation before me immigrated into a new country. 3 continents involved, 8 countries involved, each move was legal except for one where the immigration was legal but not the emigration. I don't generally support Trump but sometimes I feel no choice.
Tim Cook's playing the politics card. What does it matter to him if a Brazilian-born Dreamer works for Apple USA or Apple Brasil?
It would make more sense to let them go back but expand the visa program, especially to English speaking white collar workers who attended US universities. Oh, but that would not bring in votes for Tim Cook's favored political party. That political party is in favor of reducing white collar visas under the guise of "they're taking our jobs". It's sad how far down the pole that party has slid. It's only their voluntary fall that made Trump's rise remotely possible.
Tim Cook's playing the politics card. What does it matter to him if a Brazilian-born Dreamer works for Apple USA or Apple Brasil?
It would make more sense to let them go back but expand the visa program, especially to English speaking white collar workers who attended US universities. Oh, but that would not bring in votes for Tim Cook's favored political party. That political party is in favor of reducing white collar visas under the guise of "they're taking our jobs". It's sad how far down the pole that party has slid. It's only their voluntary fall that made Trump's rise remotely possible.
If only that representation didn't voice so much vitriol. Guess there's a fine line between hope for a few and despair for absolutely everyone else.
And what about the left wing voice of vitriol?
Regarding the sections I highlighted:
As a foreigner looking you only see a small part of the picture and lack clarity.
You have no idea of what you are talking about - Trump has clearly and rapidly denounced violence - from either side. The vast majority has come from the far left - not the right. I know of what I speak as I live near Berkeley and have watched the vitriol - you simply read fake news reports and form your opinion.
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