there are Sportsbook apps on the iso and I don't thing they are giveing apple an 30% vig on bets.
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Tim Cook Says App Store Would Become a 'Flea Market' if Third-Party Payment Systems Were Allowed
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And Sony for PlayStation, Microsoft for xBox ? it could upend the entire tech industry.
Well if minorities and poor people do it there is no way we could ever ever criticize it or else something something crazy.
Leave the race stuff out of a discussion on the App Store. Give it a rest.
The issue is every vendor can now require their own billing and now small we have scam apps that get your credit card info. Yuck. Instead of a refund from Apple you are in a whole new mess.
Beat solution is a user can opt out of walled garden but they can no longer use App Store they can just side load from everywhere and Apple doesn’t worry about them. People who want to stay and like it stay. Sort of like standardized jail breaking. Epic wants it both ways. They want to break the App Store for everyone.
Here is the great thing about that - you still can be, you can choose to ONLY install or keep the APP Store, no one would force you to lets say install and Amazon App Store, or a Walmart App Store, i thought we all thought competition was good. Crazy.
Just enable side loading, and it can stay the same and let other stores become flea market.
And btw. there is a reason my flea markets are full of people, bad example, people love flea markets.
And btw. there is a reason my flea markets are full of people, bad example, people love flea markets.
You can choose. Use android. Or any other system.
The problem about that is if something goes wrong with the "outside" POS system Apple will still be blamed for allowing the developer to offer an outside payment method. They wouldn't dare blame the poor developer for screwing them over.
LoL that is a good point.
A better reason than the "flea market": Google for APKPure. That's one Android alternative to the Google Play Store, and it has been hacked and started serving trojans instead of genuine apps (a "trojan" is something that looks like the genuine app, but isn't) which will among other things try to find out credit card information from your phone.
Why would any European court fight for the TenCent, the Chinese 750 billion dollar company that is behind Epic?
Apple themselves state that you cannot ignore views and actions in light of the people it might impact.
You are completely lacking ANY business sense. Payment companies are ONLY involved in moving money. They did not build an entire eco-system, build an entire store front, market the crap out of your store for you, continually improve the most dominant store for your product that exists, etc. etc. Do you really think ANY STORE is in the business of existing at all with less than a 30% cut of Retail? LOL. Try to convince Walmart to sell that cheap.
Having a 3rd party payment would be an additional payment option, Tim. An option. You know what "option" means, Tim?
Having a 3rd party payment option wouldn't make the App Store a flea market... no more so than a brick and mortar store having payment options aside from cash.
Does a brick and mortar store offering cash, check, debit, and credit card payments make it a flea market? No.
Does it dramatically lower the volume of customers going to the store? No.
Would it be bad for the customer? No.
The only thing that would be bad is Apple losing out on their 15% or 30% cut of the transaction. That's what Apple is worried about.
Want to talk about "confidence level," Tim. Let's talk about the confidence an app store user had in your App Store which lead to the loss of 17.1 bitcoins or of the App Store allowing scammers to rake in millions through the fake apps.
Additionally, pay attention before posting. He did not say a simple third-party payment system. It is not about options. The developers that are complaining want every individual developer to have payments go directly to them. That would be like a paper clip manufacturer expecting WalMart to have separate info in the system to pay money directly from the consumer to the manufacturer every time paper clips (or candy bars, or lawn mowers, etc) are purchased. NO ONE does that. That is beyond stupid.
I am SO GLAD that Tim Cook does not run Apple with the advice of all of the “”so-called-experts” on forums and Social Media. Now THAT would be the end of Apple.
Fleamarket. There you have it. Straight from Tim Cook. The name of the App Store alternative will be called Fleamarket.
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yeah maybe. the difference with those platforms though is they are sold at a loss and they spend lots of money on promotions with 3rd parties. so someone like Epic is ok with paying 30% there.
but it would be hard for laws to distinguish between the two. And someone like Nintendo doesn't like to lose money on hardware up front. They are more in between a Roku/Apple and a MS/Sony. Epic seems to be ok with Nintendo too though.
It wouldn't because
1. None of them are classify as a General Purpose Computing Devices required in the Modern Society.
2. None of them has a monopoly in console or gaming market.
3. These devices are sold at a loss. And the BOM and selling price are clearly shown. I dont think any lawyer on earth wants to argue that point for Apple devices.
I'm sure that as a customer, you will be more than happy to pay Apple for "free" applications where all the overhead is currently paid from the charges for paid apps. You will also be more than happy to not find any gift cards for sale in any shops anymore, because the profit of the companies selling gift cards comes out of the 30%. And since Apple is just a payment processor, you will be more than happy to have no Apple supplied services in those apps, like notifications, automatic updates, iCloud storage and so on.
Tim is right.
Can you imagine all of the international developers who will want to provide their own individual payment platforms? Some even flowing through dark channels/countries.
The ability to get refunds and challenge issues would be transferred into the hands of a developer operating from their parents basement.
Can you imagine all of the international developers who will want to provide their own individual payment platforms? Some even flowing through dark channels/countries.
The ability to get refunds and challenge issues would be transferred into the hands of a developer operating from their parents basement.
Implicit bias and systemic ancrustacean hexapod invertebrate bias!
It is very hard to argue with ^ these points and be sincere and earnest.
Some people seem to be confused about the difference between "the Internet" and "the Apple ecosystem". The way people talk about circumventing the App Store to sell directly to iPhones, they act like no one owns any of it. Not the iPhone, iOS, the App Store, any of it. They're so used to it existing and being widespread that they treat it like a ubiquitous and utilitarian thing, when in reality it is a consumer product owned and controlled entirely by Apple.