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Given Tim only cares about maximising $$$$, the forced move to a proprietary connector can be seen as a money spinner.

I struggle to accept apples push for wireless connectivity as my MacBooks are the worst machines when it it comes to wifi issues . Took Apple almost 2-3 years to resolve my 2012 rmbp wifi issues . My Mac Pro, awful BT.... Had to go wired for mouse and KB.

I admit , once wired, I've had no issues with my macs, absolutely brilliant

well, we'll see what happens when the lineup becomes fresher.

they've shown us they're committed to cloud with a pretty good system (especially if compared to .Mac ;) ) and they've now shown us they've been working on advancements in wireless connectivity (W1 chip)..

i personally think we'll see better wi-fi and bluetooth (as well as easier to use/connect) on mac in the near future.
 
Not to mention there are so many freaking wires coming out of the back of my MP, it looks like a design nightmare.

My Mac Pro has BT issues as well.
Agreed. My MacBook Pro has wifi issues and blue tooth issues all the time. Hearing that we're going all wireless is like when they say we're going paperless. Each time I hear that I have to fill out three more forms.
 
max out that imac, can be done and it's the best imac out there, if you don't have the faulty amd graphics card, LOL!!

Never had and iphone, and never will, same with iPad.

Mac represents little percentage of their profits, and, they want to stay like they are now, selling products for the elite, they don't want to gain share by selling cheaper macs, so everything is gonna stay like this.

Not to mention that, mac pro users might represent 0,000001% of their profit, for god sake, they even make them at USA, LOL. How small a market has to be so these dollar bitches produce it at USA.

If you expect anything better than this, or this situation to improve, you should re-analysis reality. It's not gonna happen;
New macbooks pro coming in 2016, next ones in 2020 or 2021, and so on.

Trash can is a **** product, pro users know it, it's a much much worse product than the watch.
As pointed out much earlier in this thread, Mac sales actually represent about 12% of Apple's revenue. It's approximately as much as the iPad brings in for them. This is billions of dollars and I don't think anyone counting the beans at Apple is going to be a-ok with 12% of their revenue going away...
 
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As pointed out much earlier in this thread, Mac sales actually represent about 12% of Apple's revenue. It's approximately as much as the iPad brings in for them. This is billions of dollars and I don't think anyone counting the beans at Apple is going to be a-ok with 12% of their revenue going away...

People also forget that if each of these businesses were stand-alone business they would be multi-billion $ companies.
 
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well, we'll see what happens when the lineup becomes fresher.

they've shown us they're committed to cloud with a pretty good system (especially if compared to .Mac ;) ) and they've now shown us they've been working on advancements in wireless connectivity (W1 chip)..

i personally think we'll see better wi-fi and bluetooth (as well as easier to use/connect) on mac in the near future.

I just hope they don't pull the Mac mini 2014 update on us, by crippling the MacBooks and Pushing people towards iPad pros....with similar performance levels .

I hope they update the time capsules , my current ones are great , except for the time machine functionality , it beats engineering principles on how slow it is to backup.... :p
 
Well it was a fair enough question to ask and given the length of time between models for some machines deserving of a bit more of a response from Tim.
 
Why?

I'm stuffing 24TB in mine. Yes, I actually need that. I'm not a "professional" btw, I just have a a lot of games & a fairly

Negative. A power laptop today should come with a full SATA/NVME M.2 slot and at least a 12.5mm 2.5" SATA Express slot. An additional M.2 slot for LTE is very desirable.

Much more reason for 3.5" SATA Express desktops/workstations.
I was working in the HD industry when SATA Express concept came up. SATA 3.0 had clearly hit its limits, and Intel wanted to simplify motherboard and IO designs. The proposal was to remove SATA from motherboards and have Hard Drives designed to natively use USB 3.0/3.1 directly in the drive. The idea was that it would simplify everything, no need for a SATA controller and overcome the limitations of SATA 3.0. Essentially USB 3.1 is both better performing and more versatile. Removing SATA was going to allow Intel to advance USB 3.0 and 3.1 more quickly and have more busses on a motherboard.

Long story short is it came down to Seagate and Western Digital refusing to follow the approach. They felt they had too much invested into designing and verifying SATA interfaces and that it was a competitive advantage against upstart SSD manufacturers like Micron, Intel, Samsung and SanDisk.

From that SATA Express was born, which essentially pairs SATA 3.0 with PCI Express. It is an unfortunate result of corporations protecting their cash cows instead advancing technology forward.

The future Apple & Intel were working towards is PCIe NVME/USB3.1/TB3 as the only interfaces on the inside of a computer. That is not to say a manufacturer could not place a 3.5" or 2.5" drive bays with drives connected via USB 3.1.

In other words I don't want the Express portion of SATA Express to die, just the SATA portion ;)

The funny part is I think the industry will go that way anyways as flash prices continue to drop, we just would have gotten their faster had SATA been killed. SATA/SAS will live in external raids connected via Thunderbolt/FiberChannel or NAS.

I've liked having all my HDD in a NAS in the basement. :p
 
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that's all single-core / high-clock hungry software.. at least the parts of it that are in use while you yourself are actually working..

what, exactly, type of improvements are you thinking you'll get from more cores and ram?
do you think you'll be able to work any faster? you won't.

say you spent 4 hours today modeling on your computer..
tomorrow, you use a computer with 8x the amount of cores... how long are you going to spend on modeling what you did today?

Here we go, again.

Most apps like Maya, Nuke, Vray, VUE etc are all multi threaded and take full advantage of machines with multiple CPU and cores.

VUE is not single core / high clock speed software. It is extremely processor intensive and can benefit from as much power as you can throw at it.
 
Not to mention there are so many freaking wires coming out of the back of my MP, it looks like a design nightmare.

My Mac Pro has BT issues as well.

It's amazing that ....well since ....2013 , Apple has not sorted these BT issues out ....with their own hardware , connecting to its own devices . Kind of says it all how commited they are to the desktop user .

I thought my machine was faulty , until I saw posts from other Mac Pro users having BT issues :(
 
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My Mac Pro has BT issues as well.

there's obviously not enough use cases yet to judge any improvement apple may have made when designing their own chip instead of third party.. the analyst quips seem interesting so far though:


"Analyst Patrick Moorhead said it’s likely Apple removed a lot of the interference and clutter associated with the Bluetooth standard. Standard Bluetooth is plagued with connectivity and pairing problems. ”Bluetooth is trying to do too many things at once,” said Moorhead."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronti...t-wireless-chip-for-new-airpods/#4973ad0c7240
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Here we go, again.

Most apps like Maya, Nuke, Vray, VUE etc are all multi threaded and take full advantage of machines with multiple CPU and cores.

VUE is not single core / high clock speed software. It is extremely processor intensive and can benefit from as much power as you can throw at it.

i'll reply to you in that other thread about this..
maybe tmmr
 
It's amazing that ....well since ....2013 , Apple has not sorted these BT issues out ....with their own hardware , connecting to its own devices . Kind of says it all how commited they are to the desktop user .

I thought my machine was faulty , until I saw posts from other Mac Pro users having BT issues :(
I write software for mac os and iOS machines to communicate with our custom medical devices over BTLE. iOS is rock solid but the MP -- frustrating AF. I reboot so often it's like wfw3.11. My MacBookPro11,2 does not have this problem at all.

Edit -- Ha, wfw3,11 -- sorry if NOBODY knows the reference. I'm old.
 
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But, who cares how long it’s been? My Late 2013 MBP runs great. Even being a power user, I have no need for a faster CPU or GPU (I don’t game). And looking at Geekbench scores, the entire Mac lineup fares very well against competition. Sure, there are some faster scores, but Windows. Really? Windows. I’m just curious what people are doing where they find the currently available Mac systems inadequate.

If you want to argue cost, I concede that’s a valid gripe. 3 year old hardware with no price reductions. However, I’m willing to bet that too will change, based on what we say this week (Apple Watch Series 1 still available, upgraded, at a lower price point, and iPhone 6s/s+, upgraded, at a lower price point).

Really, I think people just get off on bitching.

Exactly. It's also a herd mentality....the herd is saying that Apple's current computer lineup is old and not powerful enough, despite the fact that it's plenty powerful for what 99% of these clowns do on their computers. It's odd that most people would list durability as something they value in a Mac, and yet apparently a 2-year-old Mac is "garbage" and "useless" according to some of these jokers.

* I know there's the odd genuine professional in here, who has a specific and valid reason why you want a new Mac Pro, but you'll just have to exempt yourself from this generalisation.
 
My theory is that Apple discontinued the Mac Pro sometime last year and are just waiting to sell off the inventory in their warehouse before that announce it. The problem is they have been wait to sell the last 20 units for almost a year now....:)

Ha ha. Especially for 2012 tech at 2016 prices :p
 
Don't bother. You're just going to repeat what you have been pitching the last few times and will still be wrong.

i'm only wrong to you because you have your fingers in your ears.
meanwhile, you're spreading some serious misinformation around that thread/forum.
 
My theory is that Apple discontinued the Mac Pro sometime last year and are just waiting to sell off the inventory in their warehouse before that announce it. The problem is they have been wait to sell the last 20 units for almost a year now....:)
Sounds like Tim Kook's M.O.
 
As pointed out much earlier in this thread, Mac sales actually represent about 12% of Apple's revenue. It's approximately as much as the iPad brings in for them. This is billions of dollars and I don't think anyone counting the beans at Apple is going to be a-ok with 12% of their revenue going away...

Except that you need developers with macs to build apps for your iphones...
 
As apple continues to stall for time on Mac product refreshes, I wonder if they realize rather that Mac consumers and professionals are tired for the Apple Mac hobby approach.

mac products need a refresh at least yearly like the IOS products and Etc.

Apple is driving away their customers
 
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