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What is the justification for not having Sierra on all 64-bit Intel Macs?
If you're referring to Penryn and newer, planned obsolescence/unwillingness to support older hardware is the only one I can come up with. Luckily an unsupported installation on a Penryn-based Mac is very easy.
 
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Steve Jobs told me the same time when I asked about Macs and better graphics. I wish I kept the email, I was 15 years old...
 
Listen, Apple sold a billion iPhones in the past decade; they probably didn't sell a billion iMacs or Mac Pros. By focusing on the iPhone, Apple can truly leverage its market influence to bully the entire audio industry to accept its proprietary headphone connector, for example. Apple has nowhere NEAR that power when it comes to desktop computing.

No they don't. No one has to accept their courageous choice. Certainly not audiophiles.
 
So when October passes by with no updates what platform are people thinking of moving to? Not fussed about no longer being able to develop iOS apps as there are far too many developers and apps now, and the store search is still useless. Not too bothered about moving away from iCloud and Apple Music, plenty of alternatives nowadays.
I'm probably always going to default to Linux after Mac, because after using a unix-based OS for so many years, Windows just feels weird and limiting. About all I like Windows for is gaming, anything professional I'd rather have Linux. And also, so much choice with Linux! So, so much.
 
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Sad to hear how long some Macs have been around since their last update. I remember how fun it was to get new updates many times a year over their whole line. This is before they became primarily a phone company. I wonder which Mac Tim is referring to when he says he loves the Mac. Because all entry level Macs don't seem to get as much love from apple as the ones hovering around $2000.
 
I owned a mid-2011 27" 3.4 GHz iMac fully maxed on everything. As life got busy, I used a stationary machine less and less to the point that I decided to back everything up and sell it while I could still get a decent price for it. As life got even busier, I found myself getting by with iDevices, a Chromebook, and a VM of Windows on my server. I've been ready to get a MacBook Pro/Whatever for a few years now, but nothing has seemed revolutionary enough (i.e., the next big step forward) to convince me to buy. I'm getting too comfortable with my setup and with using Windows at work, but I'd still like a Mac for my everyday life at home and on the go. I really hope Apple releasing something exciting and worthwhile this time around or I'll probably just move on. I hope they announce new Macs running the latest from Intel before any other PC, like they used to do consistently for new CPUs. I know no one cares about my personal anecdote, but I thought I'd share anyway, since that's what most of these rumor threads are anyway.
 
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What is the justification for not having Sierra on all 64-bit Intel Macs?

Which old devices are left out? There are old as dirt computers here at work that are 64bit, but doesn't mean they run W10 all that nicely.
 
As regards the Mac; we've been hearing about what's in Tim's pipeline for so long, but nothing appears to ever come out.
Tim might need a doctor.
Also, I hope Apple won't be "courageous" again and get rid of the 3.5mm jack on their computers. I want that to stay, thanks.
 
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We better see Mac Pro (2016) and MacBook Pro 4th generation appear in our Wikipedia pages by the end of the year :p

New Macbook pros this year are a no brainer. There would have to be some serious problems with the supply chain if they can't manage by the end of next month. Mac Pros....Not so much of a sure thing. They can always claim that during the time they have been selling Mac Pro's the iMac has grown to be faster than the Mac Pro in some ways. And then use that story as an excuse to axe the Mac Pro and turn the high end iMac into a $3,000 entry level workstation. I mean one with dual graphics cards and 8-16 cores. Not the same one they are selling now, a redesigned one. That way they can keep the high end of all their products priced at a ridiculous level, because the high end iMac of today is too close to being affordable to the general public. They seem to have to courage to pull that kind of thing off these days.
 
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I owned a mid-2011 27" 3.4 GHz iMac fully maxed on everything. As life got busy, I used a stationary machine less and less to the point that I decided to back everything up and sell it while I could still get a decent price for it. As life got even busier, I found myself getting by with iDevices, a Chromebook, and a VM of Windows on my server. I've been ready to get a MacBook Pro/Whatever for a few years now, but nothing has seemed revolutionary enough (i.e., the next big step forward) to convince me to buy. I'm getting too comfortable with my setup and with using Windows at work, but I'd still like a Mac for my everyday life at home and on the go. I really hope Apple releasing something exciting and worthwhile this time around or I'll probably just move on. I hope they announce new Macs running the latest from Intel before any other PC, like they used to do consistently for new CPUs. I know no one cares about my personal anecdote, but I thought I'd share anyway, since that's what most of these rumor threads are anyway.
Your anecdote was actually well stated and interesting, and forms a nice datapoint to reference without attacking or belittling. So actually some of us do care, and thanks for sharing. :D
 
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Which old devices are left out? There are old as dirt computers here at work that are 64bit, but doesn't mean they run W10 all that nicely.
I was going to say, as the owner of a 2007 24inch iMac that is running the oldest Core2 officially supported by El Cap (and which will be dropping off the bottom with Sierra), that thing runs like dirt with El Cap. I'm probably going to roll back to Mavericks here in a few weeks if I can, or maybe Mountain Lion. Keep it on the last of the big cats.
 
we all know the delay is from Intel, not from Apple. Intel's CPU and platform is not ready for Apple. Looks like its going to be ready.
 
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