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Lol I would absolutely love to hear your idea for the iPhone 6 which will be so innovative, please humor us all.

This is where he will respond with truly innovative things like an SD card slot and a removable battery...These conversations have home the same way since 2008.
 
I am really sick and tired of people saying that the next generation of iPhone is not innovative enough. It's a a freaking cell phone, there is only so much you can do with it.
That's my point :)

Iterations of the cell phone are just that, iterations. Slight improvements and I'm not down on apple for doing that. I want them to keep improving the iPhone. I own a iPhone 5 and I'm eagerly waiting to see what the 6 will be.

As for the time span being short and give Cook some time, well he's been promising new products, such as last year and nothing. Additionally the rumor of the iWatch and iTV (or what ever they'll be called) have been rampant. Apple has not been able to roll out a smart watch and that delay is allowing their competitors a leg up.

Apple also spends a lot less in R&D then MS, Google and Samsung, so its hard to innovate at the same level when you spend less.

Just my $.02. I'm not hating Apple but rather, I hate to see them seemingly lose their fire and tenacity under Cook.
 
Here's what I want:

Apple media center. A device that is not dependent of a Mac/PC running itunes. One that I can plug my game system, cable box, Blu Ray and any other media devices. And it will control them all.
 
Under Steve Jobs Apple released completely new products every 4-5 years. Was actually a touch longer between the iPod and the iPhone. Why do you expect Tim Cook to release new product lines faster than Jobs? Is hour expectation reasonable? If you think Apple is missing the boat, you should go beat them to market with your great ideas.

In fact Tim cook in the few interviews that he has done, has pointed to the fact that Apple will always stay true to its core. His clear belief is that companies go down when they deviate from their core set of skills and start to "want" to do everything and anything. He believes that apple would be in a good shape if they did a few things at a time and did them with the same level of dedication as they have in the past. I would be surprised if the new devices being spoken off do not share the same attention to detail (both at a design/implementation level and a concept-market level) that the ipod , iphone and ipad.

Although its his job to continuously say that they are working on innovative products all the time, the emphasis on new products in the last 6-8 months is something that is surely a strategy to tell investors, current apple shareholders and consumers..that SOMETHING IS COMMING..and SOON..
 
who cares,
a watch is useless + non innovative, wearables are pointless
a tv would be cool if they can get the content and user interface right
incremental updates to all other products is zzZzzZzzZzz

you can see why the stock is flatlined
 
That's my point :)

Apple also spends a lot less in R&D then MS, Google and Samsung, so its hard to innovate at the same level when you spend less.

Is that really an apples to apples comparison? Apple, Microsoft, Google and Samsung all have a bit of crossover here and there, but for the most part those are four different companies with four different missions. Google and Samsung are in so many different areas that it would stand to reason that their R&D budgets would be so bloated. I don't keep up with Microsoft too much really, so I have no idea what their budgets in that area are.

Then there's Apple. As of right now they are really in 6 different areas: desktop computers, mobile computers, tablets, phones, the cloud, and software. They've obviously started recently tinkering more and more with TV and wearables seem like the next frontier for them. But just looking at a broad comparison of the portfolio of products that each company you mentioned offers it would be a pretty obvious assumption that, based on each company's goals, that Apple would bring up the rear in R&D spending among them.
 
who cares,
a watch is useless + non innovative, wearables are pointless
a tv would be cool if they can get the content and user interface right
incremental updates to all other products is zzZzzZzzZzz

you can see why the stock is flatlined

So the stock is flatlining because the investors and shareholders have SEEN the capability that apple's move into wearables and/or television offer and are not very impressed? The real reason is that many investors are begining to treat apple as a bluechip stock rather than an all out growth company as in the past. Its apple's job to prove otherwise and new product categories will certainly help...Companies the size of apple do not traditionally grow as rapidly as apple has in the past...Because apple has been and still is secretive about its future plans..investors will most likely sit on the edge and see where the company is headed.

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/4...31-apples-transition-into-a-blue-chip-company
 
Tim's choices of words never get me as excited as Steve's did... He really is quite boring. Great choice for COO, not so much for CEO.

Agreed. He may be a very good operations person, but he's not a good company spokesman/evangelist.

They need to put Federighi in that role. He knows how to work a room. Tim is just a creepy ghoul in front of the camera.
 
Apple needs to step up their game under Cook. imo, Jobs was a hard driving man who forced people to produce, Cook seems to be a bit more laid back in that department and the result is that we only get a longer iPhone (iPhone 5) and a smaller iPad (iPad Mini)

I'm not say apple isn't releasing new iterations of existing products, what I am saying is that they not rolling out new stuff that Cook keeps promising that is coming.

Under Steve Jobs it still took 6 years from the iPod until the iPhone came out. Another 3 years till the iPad came out after that.

For Apple, speed is not the primary factor. They are more concerned when a product is perfected enough to be released. When certain markets are mature enough or a technology makes it feasible.


Your right between the iPod and iPhone there was not much, but then Apple was in a different position and there was less competition. Now there's major players like Samsung, Microsoft and Google. The growth potential the iPhone is plateauing and others like Google and Samsung are rolling out new products where as Apple is just giving us iterations of the existing products.

Rolling out new products at a faster pace is not always enough to stay competitive. Remember the Samsung Galaxy S4? Meh...not really impressive. The Galaxy Gear? Meh...the same....Google Glass...Meh...don't think what peoples looking for.

I understand Apple always does the incremental update, but they produce a brand new product like the iPod and iPhone and then incrementally improve it. Cook is getting pressure form the Board, and stock holders to keep on innovating since the other products are maturing. All we get is promises that stuff us coming.

The ID Touch is not improving on the existing iPhone? They took something that did not work very well and perfected it. It probably going to be implemented in mobile payment system in the future. iBeacon is already taken off and is planned to be used in stadiums and retail store outlets.
 
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Is that really an apples to apples comparison? Apple, Microsoft, Google and Samsung all have a bit of crossover here and there, but for the most part those are four different companies with four different missions. Google and Samsung are in so many different areas that it would stand to reason that their R&D budgets would be so bloated. I don't keep up with Microsoft too much really, so I have no idea what their budgets in that area are.

Then there's Apple. As of right now they are really in 6 different areas: desktop computers, mobile computers, tablets, phones, the cloud, and software. They've obviously started recently tinkering more and more with TV and wearables seem like the next frontier for them. But just looking at a broad comparison of the portfolio of products that each company you mentioned offers it would be a pretty obvious assumption that, based on each company's goals, that Apple would bring up the rear in R&D spending among them.

Correct..R&D is a function of the products you are catering too..If a company has 100 different products it sells..it will usually outspend another company on research that only has 10 products..Company B may end up having more $ per product for Research and development...Take laptops for example..I do not get the impression that apple has under-developed or under-spend on the development of the mac book line of laptops compared to what samsung has done with their laptops. Apple has traditionally focused its efforts on a few products at a time while samsung has always tried to enter every possible market where it can compete.
 
I'm kind of glad we have little clue on what's coming out this year. These massive leaks of recent times ruin all the fun! And all the leaks come from outsourced part suppliers. Apple is reducing those a bit. Imagine if they outsourced all that new sapphire production. We'd have iWatch cover glass and iPhone screen shapes leaked all over the place by now! I want to be surprised and delighted and amazed.

[And after 12 years, will I ever graduate from macrumors 6502? <sniff>]
 
personally i dont expect him to be saying anything. product releases should do the talking.

if i were to further elaborate i would say its because they arent delivering said products and pressure is creeping in.

i think its a worrying sign that a guy that is certainly not the creative muse in the company is saying this so often that it feels like groundhog day

It is unfortunate that he seems to feel obliged to say stuff like this. One thing Steve did well was keep quite and build mystery around what was going on. I feel that he could do this because he basically didn't care what Wall Street or anyone else thought and just got on with doing stuff and brought it to market when it was ready.
 
I'd be absolutely thrilled if Tim would prioritize the stability of iOS 7 and safari on my iPad Air and iPhone 5s before he starts figuring out what else he can sell.
 
So basically people are hating on the 5C because it's plastic, I guess forgetting the flagship 3G and 3GS were plastic. What's interesting is people who own the phone really like it; it got good reviews (aside from price) on all the tech sites. It's just people who never had intentions on buying it in the first place crapping all over it.

Or it's the fact that Apple always markets their 'premium' materials in every product. They are proud to use a lot of aluminum and glass, and so when they released a plastic iPhone, it was, for some, a step back and not in line with Apple's design philosophy.

At the end of the day, however, I agree with you and believe the 5C is a great phone. It just isn't 'the best' and that's what we've come to expect from Apple.

I think the true problem was that if they hadn't released the 5C, people could buy the 5 and have a phone that essentially 'looks' just like the newest flagship 5S.
 
please don't be an iwatch, it's not a new category or a good one to go with next. The tech industry doesn't need a watch revolution.

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I would actually not appreciate apple entering this area as it makes no real sense to the rest of the product line up and ethos.

Apple has never started new product categories. All of their revolutionary products existed in one way or another (safe for the MBA maybe).

It doesn't matter whether the tech industry needs a watch revolution. All signs on the market (success of Fitbit, Pebble, Nike Fuelband, Endomondo, etc) point to the fact that this is indeed a product category that is becoming more relevant. What matters to the customer is relevant.

And why doesn't it make sense to the rest of the product line-up? What are your criteria to judge that?

And here is Apple's Ethos (Vision statement)

"Apple is committed to ensuring the highest standards of social responsibility in everything we do. The companies we do business with must provide safe working conditions, treat employees fairly, and use environmentally responsible manufacturing processes wherever Apple products are made. "

"To produce high-quality, low cost, easy to use products that incorporate high technology for the individual. We are proving that high technology does not have to be intimidating for noncomputer experts."

It seems that an iWatch fits perfectly in that.

I think you are talking from your own preference as opposed to properly analysing what is going on here.
 
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