Tim Cook Speaks About DACA, Coding, and More at Bloomberg's First 'Global Business Forum'

[ksnell]

bro, dont even waste your breath on that idiotic reply
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you know liberals throw out the "ism's" and "ist's" since they have no argument

Amen, but we need to try to educate those around us of the cost of their political wishes. Do we all want "free" things like healthcare and college? Sure. But even taxing the rich at 100% won't pay for it. It'll just create more poor people.

Instead we must inform others of the economics of their wishes and show sensible solutions to grow the economy besides the left's drum beat of "taxing the rich."

 

[unobtainium]

These virtue-signaling Leftists should ask those Native Americans of whom they speak so highly how uncontrolled immigration worked out for them...

Let's reframe the question. Ask Native Americans how it worked out for them when they tried to stop immigration. Ask the Roman Empire too -- did any of those Roman walls keep the Germans out?

Long story short: if you're obscenely wealthy, people will find a way to get through your borders so they can get a piece of the pie rather than working for pennies making your products in other countries. Those immigrants will usually bring an energizing and dynamic new culture that shakes things up and moves history in new directions. It's inevitable and unavoidable.
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People naturally want to conserve their lifestyle. Where I live mass immigration has led to lower wages, job losses, housing shortages, crisis in the health service and a lower standard of living for the most working class people.

Correlation is not causation. I'm willing to bet that wherever you live, these negative changes are caused more by globalization, which has undeniably caused the loss of working-class jobs in wealthy countries, and much less to do with immigration, which is essentially population growth (and hence economically stimulating).

 

[ksnell]

It's a pretty important qualifier for anyone who respects a rule of law. Obama screwed this up. This is the problem with surpassing congress by trying to write a "law" on a piece of paper (executive order) the next guy who occupies the oval office can wipe his ass with. He and their parents put their lives in limbo.

Not to mention it is unconstitutional for a President to write an executive order changing immigration laws. Clear violation of separation of powers.

The Commander in Chief is do enforce the laws Congress makes, not create laws himself. If Congress chooses not to pass a law (as was the case with DACA), tough sledding.

 

[Starflyer]

Ask yourself why Obama and the democrats didn’t pass amnesty or any other kind of immigration reform when they controlled congress?

Because it is very unpopular with their Hispanic voting base.

 

[Defthand]

The only immigrants that I resent are those who piggyback on a relative’s citizenship for the sole purpose of receiving this country’s welfare benefits. Some “relatives" turn out to be friends rather than family members.

The immigration process should probably work like prisoner exchanges. For every person who wants to immigrate here, one of our citizens must be willing to immigrate to the other country in exchange. They can sponsor each other.

Maybe we should tell welfare exploiters that they forfeit their citizenship if they aren’t willing to work. We could trade several of them to a communist society in exchange for someone who is self-reliant.

I jest, of course. After all, I look fat in labor camp clothes.

 

[orbital~debris]

Where I live mass immigration has led to lower wages, job losses, housing shortages, crisis in the health service and a lower standard of living for the most working class people.

But you've not provided anything to back up those claims? The data contained in this article is relevant: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...r-rudd-tory-conference-speeches-a7346121.html

 

[IPPlanMan]

Let's reframe the question. Ask Native Americans how it worked out for them when they tried to stop immigration. Ask the Roman Empire too -- did any of those Roman walls keep the Germans out?

Long story short: if you're obscenely wealthy, people will find a way to get through your borders so they can get a piece of the pie rather than working for pennies making your products in other countries. Those immigrants will usually bring an energizing and dynamic new culture that shakes things up and moves history in new directions. It's inevitable and unavoidable.
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Correlation is not causation. I'm willing to bet that wherever you live, these negative changes are caused more by globalization, which has undeniably caused the loss of working-class jobs in wealthy countries, and much less to do with immigration, which is essentially population growth (and hence economically stimulating).

The Great Wall of China worked.

The Wall at UC Berkeley for Ben Shapiro's recent event worked.

We're not dealing with an invading army here.

Immigrants should come legally. Respect for the laws of the land is paramount.

Respect and follow the laws, or they don't mean anything for anyone.

I'm all for culture. The values of following the laws of the land show respect for that culture. Perhaps you feel differently about that.

 

[unobtainium]

The Great Wall of China worked.

China was totally conquered twice..1279 CE by the Mongols, 1644 by the Manchus.

We're not dealing with an invading army here.

Neither were the Romans.

Human migration is a constant fact of human history, "legal" or not. Really the idea that migration is "legal" or "not legal" is totally arbitrary, and decided by those in power. Any attempt by a wealthy nation to keep others out has failed. It's totally pointless.

 

[citysnaps]

This is exactly why I hate Tim Cook. He hijacks events and communications to his own employees to push his own personal political agendas.

I'm not against Tim Cook having these agendas, just he needs to stop pushing them on Apple time. Do it on his own time. Tim Cook is paid to be Apple CEO, not political lobbyist.

He speaks to Apple's and especially Apple's employee's interests. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. And I'd be disappointed in Apple and Mr. Cook if he didn't.

So you hate Tim Cook and don't like what he does looking out for Apple's interests? No worries. There are plenty of other tech companies that you can support with your purchases. It does take courage to take a real stand on that, voting with your wallet, though.

 

[Starflyer]

He speaks to Apple's and Apple's employee's interests. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. And I'd be disappointed in Apple and Mr. Cook if he didn't.

Don't like that? No worries. There are plenty of other tech companies that you can support with your purchases. It does take courage to take a real stand on that, voting with your wallet, though.

How come we don’t hear about Apple employees that are legal immigrants that are likely in opposition to Cook’s stance?

 

[amegicfox]

Tim should invest $500 million of HIS own money in South America,
so South America can have it's own thriving country

Instead he wants the US government (middle class) to pay for his communist idiotic ideology

Tim STOP telling us how to think, what to think and what's right for us

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

Not to mention it is unconstitutional for a President to write an executive order changing immigration laws. Clear violation of separation of powers.

The Commander in Chief is do enforce the laws Congress makes, not create laws himself. If Congress chooses not to pass a law (as was the case with DACA), tough sledding.

Well he had to pacify the latino community with everyone saying Obama was deporting record numbers. This was the bone he threw them. Only that "bone" ultimately led to human lives hanging in the balance.

You're correct from a constitutional standpoint he screwed the pooch. This was a political calculation on his part and he was banking on Clinton winning (best case) or sympathy (worst case).

 

[amegicfox]

Why anti-American Tim isn't in jail for hiring 250 illegal immigrants over poor Americans ?

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

How come we don’t hear about Apple employees that are legal immigrants that are likely in opposition to Cook’s stance?

Well the obvious answer is they like their jobs.

 

[ChrisCW11]

I dream of an iOS release that is not plagued with bugs and problems. Perhaps that is what a CEO of a tech company should be more focused on.

 

[macduke]

You could argue that people that made mistakes, learnt from them, then achieved the highest position to arise to are doing a pretty good job.

You could also argue otherwise, as they haven't been able to pass anything with control of two branches of government (maybe three if you count supreme court appointments). You could also argue the same for any political person in history, from Hitler to Washington. Just because someone finds success doesn't make them a good person or good leader. Never forget that.

 

[amegicfox]

with

- MILLIONS of Americans living in poverty
- MILLIONS of Americans affected by the opioid crisis (created by the illegal immigrants gangs)
- MILLIONS of Americans out of a job
- Millions of American factories and jobs gone and going to MEXICO
- Rents and Houses prices gone through the roof since millions of illegals drove up prices
- USA with 20 TRILLIONS of debt to foreign governments

Tim Crook thinks the biggest problem facing the USA is the fact that Illegal Immigrants BY LAW need to go back to their country ?

Tim Crook HATES American people

 

[unobtainium]

with

- MILLIONS of Americans living in poverty
- MILLIONS of Americans affected by the opioid crisis (created by the illegal immigrants gangs)
- MILLIONS of Americans out of a job
- Millions of American factories and jobs gone and going to MEXICO
- Rents and Houses prices gone through the roof since millions of illegals drove up prices
- USA with 20 TRILLIONS of debt to foreign governments

Tim Crook thinks the biggest problem facing the USA is the fact that Illegal Immigrants BY LAW need to go back to their country

Tim Crook HATES American people

All of that is made up BS. When jobs get shipped overseas it has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, it has to do with corporate greed. Corporations want maximum profits and minimum expenditures, duh. The only way to constrain them is through regulation. But the billionaire class (*cough Donald Trump and his cronies) are systematically dismantling public education, healthcare, and other programs so they can cut taxes for themselves, widening the gap between rich and poor even more. Wealth inequality is the problem, not immigrants.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Nothing wrong with immigration as long as people go through the proper channels. I don't understand what's so difficult for people to understand about this. An open border world where one person that is even physically ill can get millions of native citizens killed.

I'm all for immigration as long as it is done legally.

Daca was an illegally passed bill to begin with - so throwing it back to Congress for them to finally get their **** together and figure this thing out I think is a good thing.

As far as illegals are concerned - I've never seen a group of people entitled to so much that deserve so little. They are criminals - their crime was coming to this country illegally and cutting in line of those that are actually trying to enter the country legally in hopes of a better life.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

You could also argue otherwise, as they haven't been able to pass anything with control of two branches of government (maybe three if you count supreme court appointments). You could also argue the same for any political person in history, from Hitler to Washington. Just because someone finds success doesn't make them a good person or good leader. Never forget that.

But the point is all those things someone didn't have to pass you describe. So what? Nobody has to. You don't like it change the electoral system instead of moaning about a system in place that has democratically elected every president since the history of elections.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Ask yourself why Obama and the democrats didn’t pass amnesty or any other kind of immigration reform when they controlled congress?

Because it is very unpopular with their Hispanic voting base.

I actually have many Hispanic friends - all who are legally here and whose parents are legally here. They can't stand the idea of amnesty.

The left actually looks crazy passing amnesty - we're a nation of immigrants - and generations of people that have come over here legally and integrated into society. Not ones that come over illegally, not learning the language, start demanding the social programs that are there for the native citizens, taking jobs that are for young or undereducated Americans, and then demanding the right to vote.

Also, let's not forget that Obama deported the most illegals out of all of the previous administrations.

 

[0098386]

This is exactly why I like Tim Cook, it’s great to see him standing up for great causes. It’s surprises me that those against Tim Cook don’t complain about other CEOs engaging in philanthropy.

This kind of attitude Apple now has is wonderful and uplifting, reminds me of their early days when they were also vocally progressive. I mean, Jobs himself was the son of an immigrant, from a Middle East state no less.

Will buy a (WiFi though) Apple Watch 3 and a new iMac soon knowing the money is going to a decent company.
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If I hop the wall around Tim's mansion and set up camp in his front yard, will he be as understanding towards me? I mean, after all, we are all descendants of immigrants. He won't have a problem with me living in his front yard illegally, right?

What a weird logic. You’re getting confused between private property and public land. I think I learnt the difference when I was maybe 5 years old?
If you need teaching I can explain it for you, if you want.

 

[citysnaps]

How come we don’t hear about Apple employees that are legal immigrants that are likely in opposition to Cook’s stance?

I'm going to go way out on a limb here. How is that we would hear about them, unless they are 1) really in oppostion, and 2) held a news conference of substantial significance to attract the media, in order to get their message out.

Or, maybe they don't really care and are just very happy to be working for Apple.

 

[amegicfox]

 

[chfilm]

The future US President Cook.

I wish he was running, with Elon as his vice. Or the other way around!