How about stop giving us empty promise for something so far away(this is almost like apple tv) and deliver some macbook pro this march? What is taking so freaking so long??
Some will argue that Apple should focus on what they know. But if it's true that Apple are developing a car, then I'm all for it.
But these people you talk about aren't whiners. They really like Apple, they promise! Or they don't like Apple, but they like some Apple products. Or they don't like Apple products, they just post here because they bought an iPod from a friend ten years ago. Either way, we're all just blind fanboys because we don't attempt to shred Apple to pieces every time Tim Cook takes a breath.You know with all the whiners here you would think that Apple comes to your house, puts a gun to your head and makes you pay for something you don't want. If Apple products are over priced then the only ones to blame are the idiots who over pay for them.
If the products aren't worth what they are charging, don't buy them. If someone is making a product that represents a better value to you then go to their site and praise them. I'm sick of all the crybabies on MR. I'm not saying Apple doesn't have things to criticize, but you guys just make yourselves look foolish to bash Apple and then send them your money.
That's because they are doing it wrong. Can't we just agree that everything they do, and we do, is being done wrong? And Apple shouldn't be doing this until every line of code in every program is checked line by line, transistor by transistor, and tested to the fullest extent of the law and electronics. And no back doors, please.Queue jokes/complaints related to other products and how Apple can't get that right so they shouldn't be working on a car.
Tim Cook Teases Apple Car
LOL...ain't that the truth.Autonomous vehicles with buggy software and incomplete implementation.
I would have to say....i'm with you on that....and this is one of the reasons why I get annoyed by their "announcements.'I'm with you, I don't want new stuff. I want polished existing products, even a refined (reduced) set of products.
Next big thing that we might find out is that we might be able to do film production in the car while driving.You're forgetting the fact that there will most likely be integration between the car, phone, possibly the watch, etc. This means that there will be X amount of people in the car division working on integration between the devices, Y amount of people in the phone division, Z amount in the watch, and whatever other divisions there are in the company - depending on how many devices Apple wants to integrate.
I'm not saying that there's a small amount of people working on the car. I'm saying that because of the inevitable cross links between the car and the Apple products, both sides will need to work with each other and share resources and time for this to all work.
If you're trying to push the car out by 2017 or 18, then obviously you'll need more people on both sides and more labor work. That'll mean less focus on whatever specific products they're working on. If you're extending that to 2019 or 2020, then obviously you can space it out.
Read more into my comment next time.
PCs are expensive enough for Window$ users. Why do they need extra anti-virus tax, Micro$oft Office subscription tax, and next Micro$oft Windows version tax in addition to a super slow computer after OEM installed bloat ware?Cars are expensive enough, why do we need an Apple tax in addition to all the other taxes associated with them?
Next big thing that we might find out is that we might be able to do film production in the car while driving.
PCs are expensive enough for Window$ users. Why do they need extra anti-virus tax, Micro$oft Office subscription tax, and next Micro$oft Windows version tax in addition to a super slow computer after OEM installed bloat ware?
They tend to utterly destroy Macs in the same price range.Obviously you haven't used a modern Windows based computer. Go try one at the same price point as a Mac and tell me how slow it is.
Nonsense.
Norway has one of the largest market shares for EVs in the world (22% of all new vehicles sold in 2015 were pure electric vehicles).
They have some pretty extreme seasons there.
and Mr. Phill Sch said..."innovation my A**" lolThat's one thing I've found lacking in all currently available cars and personally I will not buy another vehicle until it has this ability.
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Obviously you haven't used a modern Windows based computer. Go try one at the same price point as a Mac and tell me how slow it is.
Honestly I truly believe this car will be one of the largest and most expensive disasters in the history of the car and tech industries. Unlike most product categories Apple has entered, this one has so many land mines I couldn't even hope to list all of them, such as the fact that it can kill people if there's a glitch (which is likely with any software)
Well, it's true.Queue jokes/complaints related to other products and how Apple can't get that right so they shouldn't be working on a car.
no doubt it'll come in 3 flavours: 50mph - $20999 80mph - $25999 120mph - $30999
And they accept the extreme reduction in range or drive with the heater off and try to stay warm by bundling up with gloves, balaclava, parka, etc:
[Journalists] took five cars to the Defereggen Valley, in the Austrian Alps, where it's appropriately cold, outfitted them all with winter tires, and tested their range. What did they learn?I stand by my earlier post: the Apple Car won't have much market in places where potential customers experience cold winters and/or hot summers unless Apple's made a breakthrough in battery life.
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This test shows the cold reduces an EV's range by more than 50 percent. That's bad but consider that gas cars are even worse: they don't even start when it's too cold. The situation could improve a little with better battery insulation, and more efficient heating systems.
Is that why Norway is a big market for Tesla? Seems to get pretty cold over there.
You are talking about acceleration. Speed is something else, and eventually fastest is again a matter of proportionally far harder target to accomplish. Almost every other supercar out there will be able to leave any Tesla to dust, because to be fast you also need to be light, have the best brake technology, the best shock absorbers, the best geometry, the lowest center of gravity, pull the most "g's", etc and etc and the list goes on. There is a reason you have to pay like a million$ for the new Ferraris and Porches, these companies are no dumb.Probably not. Take a look at how Tesla prices their cars.
$63 K gets you 5.5 seconds 0-60 MPH. (70)
$68 K gets you 5.2 " (70D)
$78 K gets you 4.2 " (90D)
$98K gets you 3.1 " (P90D)
$108K gets you 2.8 " (P90D w/ Ludicrous)
#1 - Your prices seem low. Remember: The Apple Watch ranges in price from $300 - $17K. Apple prices themselves as a luxury company. They don't sell $100 watches. Similarly, they won't sell $20K cars. Expect them to be in the range of what the Tesla Model S costs (https://www.teslamotors.com/models/design)
#2 - Top speed seems like a dumb thing to offer for more money. 50 MPH would be utterly worthless. I think doing what Tesla does, increasing the acceleration, seems more likely. The base model goes from 0-60 MPH in 5.5 seconds. That's not bad - my current car does it in 7 seconds and I don't feel like my car is particularly slow. Their top end car does it in half the time - 2.8 seconds. That's insa - no, ludicrous. That makes it the 6th fastest car in existence. The 5 faster cars each cost more than twice as much and are exotic two seater sports cars.
None of that is true at all. And neither are your prices for Ferraris and Porches.You are talking about acceleration. Speed is something else, and eventually fastest is again a matter of proportionally far harder target to accomplish. Almost every other supercar out there will be able to leave any Tesla to dust, because to be fast you also need to be light, have the best brake technology, the best shock absorbers, the best geometry, the lowest center of gravity, pull the most "g's", etc and etc and the list goes on. There is a reason you have to pay like a million$ for the new Ferraris and Porches, these companies are no dumb.