Tim Cook, Tech CEOs and Top Republicans Attend Secretive Meeting About Donald Trump

[jmpage2]

Sanders didn't capitulate. He listened. He had meetings with them. And that's why they don't bother him anymore.

Trump, on the other hand, throws out anyone who disagrees with him. He doesn't listen to other people. And that's why protesters continue to show up at his rallies.

He basically has the maturity and learning ability of a spoiled four-year-old child. He's that kid in school who always came home with a report card that said he doesn't work and play well with others.

And they also aren't voting for him. Even though Hillary pretty much gave them the brush off and refused to do what Sanders did she is still getting the majority of the black vote. Interesting that.

And yes, I think you're right, when 10-20 BLM protestors show up at one of his rallies and start parading around with signs shouting, interrupting a speech that thousands are attending... Trump should simply invite them up on stage and turn the mic over to them like Bernie.

Or maybe he shouldn't. If people are behaving like spoiled children, like miscreants then they absolutely deserve to be thrown out of a PRIVATE FUNCTION. They are not at a public venue. How would a bunch of white people be treated if they showed up at the NAACP national caucus meeting and paraded around interrupting the main speaker? I have a feeling that they would get tossed out just as fast if not faster.

We do have a race problem in this country, the problem of people using a victim mentality to excuse terrible (and in many cases criminal) behavior based on skin color. The problem of affirmative action quotas, huge tax-payer provided giveaways (handouts) and pretty much every other "white guilt" thing not fixing a problem that can only be fixed when the black community recognizes that trust and responsibility are a two way street and that you can't pin your problems on others forever.
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Yeah and I'm sure that Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and Karl Rove were there to tax about Mars. :eyeroll:

 

[laurim]

"Trump Steaks"

Yeah, steaks people could only buy at Sharper Image. The steaks at Trump's press conference weren't Trump steaks, lol. Well, ok, they are Trump steaks like the ones in my freezer are Lauri Steaks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...s-at-a-trump-event-aren-t-really-trump-steaks

"But they weren’t steaks from Trump’s fabled, now defunct, Trump Steaks business. They were from Bush Brothers Provision Co., a West Palm Beach, Florida, purveyor that counts Trump-affiliated properties among its customers, said John Bush, whose family owns the company. Photographs posted on Twitter showed plastic wrapping on the meat at the televised event where Trump celebrated primary victories in Michigan and Mississippi. The packaging matched that used by Bush Brothers, Bush said.

Trump frozen steaks were offered at Sharper Image stores and by mail-order catalog in 2007. The Classic Collection -- two filet mignons, two bone-in rib-eyes and 12 burgers -- was priced at $199. Sales have since been discontinued."

You know, Trump is less like Hitler and more like the Wizard of OZ. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!"

 

[thermodynamic]

What next, Caitlyn Jenner becoming a GLBT ambassador to the world because the deluded believe only Republicans value the struggles GLBT people go through?! (Despite the obvious history where the GOP would sell anyone's mother to profiteer from, while using GLBT as a wedge issue - usually in negative ways - to appeal to the religious factions.)

 

[laurim]

And they also aren't voting for him. Even though Hillary pretty much gave them the brush off and refused to do what Sanders did she is still getting the majority of the black vote. Interesting that.

And yes, I think you're right, when 10-20 BLM protestors show up at one of his rallies and start parading around with signs shouting, interrupting a speech that thousands are attending... Trump should simply invite them up on stage and turn the mic over to them like Bernie.

Or maybe he shouldn't. If people are behaving like spoiled children, like miscreants then they absolutely deserve to be thrown out of a PRIVATE FUNCTION. They are not at a public venue. How would a bunch of white people be treated if they showed up at the NAACP national caucus meeting and paraded around interrupting the main speaker? I have a feeling that they would get tossed out just as fast if not faster.

Political rallies are private events?? I thought they were for politicians to tell potential voters their ideas and policies. Guess the GOP is different from the Dems in that philosophy, too. And why we are winning.

 

[FieldingMellish]

ad hominem away. It seems to be what you're best at.

BL.

That was no ad hominem. Only the obstinate part, where in the past you've held fast over several posts worth.

In Don Quixote:
"The story follows the adventures of an hidalgo named Mr. Alonso Quixano who reads so many chivalric romances that he loses his sanity and decides to set out to revive chivalry, undo wrongs, and bring justice to the world, under the name Don Quixote de la Mancha. He recruits a simple farmer, Sancho Panza, as his squire, who often employs a unique, earthy wit in dealing with Don Quixote's rhetorical orations on antiquated knighthood. Don Quixote, in the first part of the book, does not see the world for what it is and prefers to imagine that he is living out a knightly story." - Wikipedia.

 

[thermodynamic]

Trump is the most likely to shut down the H-1B cheap tech labor source because he is not in their pocket like Hillary and the rest. Glad these oligarchs are running scared.

Was that before or after Trump said how "we need talented people in this country", which pretty much slammed everyone in this country - including his own supporters.

At least Cruz has a plan to make American workers more viable.

Look it up, the Trump comment and Cruz plan are real. Unlike the claim that Americans are lazy.

 

[jmpage2]

Yeah, steaks people could only buy at Sharper Image. The steaks at Trump's press conference weren't Trump steaks, lol. Well, ok, they are Trump steaks like the ones in my freezer are Lauri Steaks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...s-at-a-trump-event-aren-t-really-trump-steaks

"But they weren’t steaks from Trump’s fabled, now defunct, Trump Steaks business. They were from Bush Brothers Provision Co., a West Palm Beach, Florida, purveyor that counts Trump-affiliated properties among its customers, said John Bush, whose family owns the company. Photographs posted on Twitter showed plastic wrapping on the meat at the televised event where Trump celebrated primary victories in Michigan and Mississippi. The packaging matched that used by Bush Brothers, Bush said.

Trump frozen steaks were offered at Sharper Image stores and by mail-order catalog in 2007. The Classic Collection -- two filet mignons, two bone-in rib-eyes and 12 burgers -- was priced at $199. Sales have since been discontinued."

You know, Trump is less like Hitler and more like the Wizard of OZ. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!"

Certainly Trump's business ventures don't match up when you compare them to the very successful private ventures that the Clintons have started that have employed..... errr... wait.

Unless you count millions of dollars made for giving speeches to really really rich people and then not wanting transcripts of those speeches released that is..... err.. wait.

Hillary had one private venture I'm aware of, and that one ended with her also being nearly indicted when strong evidence was uncovered that a shell game was being played with project funds from Whitewater, via the law firm she worked at to fund her husband's gubernatorial bid.

People who like to sneer at Trumps less than successful business ventures might want to remember that the Clintons have never been paid for doing anything other than talking.

 

[thermodynamic]

Apple should stay out of the politics, IMO.
Likely half of America will be irritated.

All of America should be. Especially the free market pundits that constantly bleat how bad government involvement in the free market is. (Except for when government hands out more in corporate welfare and bailouts.) And most Americans don't want a plutocratic oligarchy, which is what Apple wants - as it has arguably demonstrated with its tantrums of recent.

 

[jmpage2]

Was that before or after Trump said how "we need talented people in this country", which pretty much slammed everyone in this country - including his own supporters.

At least Cruz has a plan to make American workers more viable.

Look it up, the Trump comment and Cruz plan are real. Unlike the claim that Americans are lazy.

The H1B Visa program, as originally envisioned, most Americans don't have a problem with. Bringing in highly skilled professionals in applied sciences and engineering to cover a labor shortage gives the US a competitive advantage.

The problem is that the H1B Visa program has been expanded into areas it was never intended for and the requirement that an H1B Visa could not be filled at the expense of an American worker has been eliminated.

I have no problem bringing in a few thousand people with PHDs in chemistry, engineering, physics to help fuel the booming tech industry in the United States if those companies legitimately can't fill those jobs with Americans.

I have a major problem with companies like HP, Disney & Abbot bringing in less expensive Indian & Chinese workers to replace American IT workers who in most cases have great job ratings and are forced to train their own replacements before being shown the door.

 

[laurim]

Certainly Trump's business ventures don't match up when you compare them to the very successful private ventures that the Clintons have started that have employed..... errr... wait.

Unless you count millions of dollars made for giving speeches to really really rich people and then not wanting transcripts of those speeches released that is..... err.. wait.

Hillary had one private venture I'm aware of, and that one ended with her also being nearly indicted when strong evidence was uncovered that a shell game was being played with project funds from Whitewater, via the law firm she worked at to fund her husband's gubernatorial bid.

People who like to sneer at Trumps less than successful business ventures might want to remember that the Clintons have never been paid for doing anything other than talking.

Hmmm, two lifetimes of public service and the Clinton Foundation that currently helps people all over the world and employs thousands of people (including myself for a few days for working one of their events, btw), vs Trump's businesses which were mostly just slapping his name on products made where OTHER people's businesses hired all the people. LOL!!

P.S. Doesn't Trump only get paid for talking? Do you have pictures of him operating a bulldozer somewhere? Or do his little hands and draft-evading bone spurs prevent him from doing manual labor

 

[jmpage2]

Hmmm, two lifetimes of public service and the Clinton Foundation that currently helps people all over the world and employs thousands of people, including myself for a few days during one of their events, vs Trump's businesses which were mostly just slapping his name on products where OTHER people's businesses hired all the people. LOL!!

Please go on so that we can all laugh at you. The Clintons do not directly employ thousands. Trump's businesses do.
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Political rallies are private events?? I thought they were for politicians to tell potential voters their ideas and policies. Guess the GOP is different from the Dems in that philosophy, too. And why we are winning.

Yeah, you're winning what with that shrinking poll gap between Hillary and Bernie and even more frighteningly between Clinton and Trump in a general election match-up.... and with that control of congress. Oh wait.

A political rally is as public / private as you want to make it and plenty of protestors have been tossed out of events for Democratic politicians. A woman who accused Bill Clinton of predatory sexual advances towards her 25 years ago got tossed out of a Clinton "public" event not too long ago.

If a bunch of rednecks showed up and protested at an Obama "public" function they'd be tossed just like they should be... the difference is you'd be snarking all over them getting what they deserved on Twitter.

 

[laurim]

Please go on so that we can all laugh at you. The Clintons do not directly employ thousands. Trump's businesses do.

Considering we would have to evaluate what businesses are actually owned by Trump vs just licensing his name, it might take a while to figure out how many Americans he personally provides jobs for. I stayed at his Doral resort last month and every single worker had a thick accent so I don't know if they are full citizens or not. He brought in Polish workers to build Trump Tower so who knows.

P.S. As of 2015, the Clinton Foundation employs 2,000 people. And none of the Clintons take a salary from it.

 

[jmpage2]

Considering we would have to evaluate what businesses are actually owned by Trump vs just licensing his name, it might take a while to figure out how many Americans he personally provides jobs for. I stayed at his Doral resort last month and every single worker had a thick accent so I don't know if they are full citizens or not. He brought in Polish workers to build Trump Tower so who knows.

P.S. As of 2015, the Clinton Foundation employs 2,000 people. And none of the Clintons take a salary from it.

I don't think it would be hard to figure out how many people he directly employs within the U.S. Just add up the # of employees at his US owned properties that aren't sub-contractors. Your comment about thick accents is insulting. Plenty of good hard working Americans I know have accents and are full citizens. Watch your trigger words with me.

LOL LOL LOL

No, but seriously, I know many American citizens with accents who LEGALLY immigrated here, worked their tails off at jobs like that, went to college and are now employed in better careers.

Clinton foundation has 2,000 employees GLOBALLY. Maybe 1/5 of that would be my guess are in the US and how many of those are regular permanent positions with benefits?

Good for the Clintons that they don't take a salary.... oh wait, if you get paid millions of dollars to show up at a few swank parties and blab for an hour you don't actually have to earn money like regular people.

 

[alexgowers]

Hitler was democratically elected by a landslide.

Sometimes the people have no idea what's good for them.

I think you give people too little credit. Hitler was elected in a time when control of media was total and those who supported him were able to hide the darker things he had in mind.

Trumpf is a buffoon, idiot and dullard. He's supported by outspoken extreme minorities and not the masses. I really believe that he doesn't have a chance, but it's almost better to let people think he could be president to get people to vote against him. He is an unusual political figure because he doesn't say things you expect but what he does say is offensive to many, it's almost unbelievable he's not been arrested because of it. His responses to questions are bizarre and show no understanding or he just rambles like a nutter. He's a curio and endlessly entertaining in a car crash kind of way.

When it comes down to serious voting i don't think people could really elect him with a straight face.

 

[laurim]

I don't think it would be hard to figure out how many people he directly employs within the U.S. Just add up the # of employees at his US owned properties that aren't sub-contractors. Your comment about thick accents is insulting. Plenty of good hard working Americans I know have accents and are full citizens. Watch your trigger words with me.

LOL LOL LOL

No, but seriously, I know many American citizens with accents who LEGALLY immigrated here, worked their tails off at jobs like that, went to college and are now employed in better careers.

Clinton foundation has 2,000 employees GLOBALLY. Maybe 1/5 of that would be my guess are in the US and how many of those are regular permanent positions with benefits?

Good for the Clintons that they don't take a salary.... oh wait, if you get paid millions of dollars to show up at a few swank parties and blab for an hour you don't actually have to earn money like regular people.

So, people who speak for money aren't regular people? Interesting. Considering I'm in the live events business where plenty of people are paid to speak, I find that interesting. Wonder what Trump gets paid to speak at events? It's not at his failed university because that's one of the things he's being sued for.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-...s-speaking-fees-compared-everyone-else-2015-8

 

[dk001]

You mysteriously left out that $200 million dollar inheritance and the $70 million co-signed loan. Hmm.

The more money you have in this country, the easier it is to continue making money. Anyone who has money knows this. I know this from personal experience. Those familiar with the realities of our economic system know this as well. Less educated people with less money (the Trump base) do not.


Donald Trump’s tax returns may be hiding a bombshell — but it’s not what you expect

Income taxes are a financial burden on many Americans and the buoyancy of billionaire Donald Trump’s presidential campaign seems to underscore anger over economic forces that have left many out.

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Seeing how they never release them in the past at this stage in the run I will call this a BS headline engineered and paid for by the RNC or DNC in an effort to shift focus.

 

[FieldingMellish]

RNC and DNC - I don't know if anyone can be more shrewd and criminal than those folks.

 

[dk001]

Trump 2016

Considering the dearth of qualified runners.... he is the least offensive.

 

[jmpage2]

Considering the dearth of qualified runners.... he is the least offensive.

I would personally prefer Cruz but I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell of beating Hillary in the general election so, since I'll take anyone other than 3rd term of Obama administration Hillary, looks like it will be Trump.
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So, people who speak for money aren't regular people? Interesting. Considering I'm in the live events business where plenty of people are paid to speak, I find that interesting. Wonder what Trump gets paid to speak at events? It's not at his failed university because that's one of the things he's being sued for.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-...s-speaking-fees-compared-everyone-else-2015-8

Yes, and as long as we are bringing up things that have zero to do with the election why don't we talk about Clinton's numerous affairs or Hillary's long history of antagonism towards the women who accused her husband of being an aggressive man-skank? Oh, guess you don't like it when other people pee in the pool.

Trump might get paid to speak, I wouldn't know. I do know he gets paid very well on his real estate ventures as well as all that cash he's raked in being a celebrity.

Now if speaking was his forever only source of income I might raise my eyebrows a touch. See, most of the speakers that I've attended have actual skills that people want to know more about, vs just blabbing about policy and how we are all global citizens, NWO type crap.

Most of them have PHDs in their fields and have actually accomplished things in the real world outside of being speakers at events.

 

[Larry-K]

Yeah, steaks people could only buy at Sharper Image. The steaks at Trump's press conference weren't Trump steaks, lol. Well, ok, they are Trump steaks like the ones in my freezer are Lauri Steaks.

You know, Trump is less like Hitler and more like the Wizard of OZ. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!"

I always found it amusing that the bulk of the pack was hamburger, and reports from the very few who fell for it weren't particularly kind.

I'm sure he had "Top People" on it, like he's promised on all his future presidential endeavors.

 

[rdowns]

And they also aren't voting for him. Even though Hillary pretty much gave them the brush off and refused to do what Sanders did she is still getting the majority of the black vote. Interesting that.

And yes, I think you're right, when 10-20 BLM protestors show up at one of his rallies and start parading around with signs shouting, interrupting a speech that thousands are attending... Trump should simply invite them up on stage and turn the mic over to them like Bernie.

Or maybe he shouldn't. If people are behaving like spoiled children, like miscreants then they absolutely deserve to be thrown out of a PRIVATE FUNCTION. They are not at a public venue. How would a bunch of white people be treated if they showed up at the NAACP national caucus meeting and paraded around interrupting the main speaker? I have a feeling that they would get tossed out just as fast if not faster.

We do have a race problem in this country, the problem of people using a victim mentality to excuse terrible (and in many cases criminal) behavior based on skin color. The problem of affirmative action quotas, huge tax-payer provided giveaways (handouts) and pretty much every other "white guilt" thing not fixing a problem that can only be fixed when the black community recognizes that trust and responsibility are a two way street and that you can't pin your problems on others forever.
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Yeah and I'm sure that Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and Karl Rove were there to tax about Mars. :eyeroll:

So Trump's events are for white people. Got it.

 

[jmpage2]

So Trump's events are for white people. Got it.

Looking at the crowd that seems to be most of his supporters but same could be said for Ben Carson before he dropped out.

Those disrupting his events do usually appear to be black but there have been exceptions such as the grinning idiot wearing the KKK shirt who trump did the stare down to.

 

[tevion5]

He's supported by outspoken extreme minorities and not the masses.

I wish that was true, but his success in the primaries is working strongly against that notion. O.O

 

[LizKat]

when 10-20 BLM protestors show up

I don't think Black Lives Matter demonstrators should have interrupted rallies like that either. Rudeness is rudeness. People come to a rally because they want to hear the candidate speak. I think what BLM has to say matters but they don't advance understanding by trying to leverage a political rally into a platform for airing their questions, grievances or suggestions.

We do have a race problem in this country, the problem of people using a victim mentality to excuse terrible (and in many cases criminal) behavior based on skin color. The problem of affirmative action quotas, huge tax-payer provided giveaways (handouts) and pretty much every other "white guilt" thing not fixing a problem that can only be fixed when the black community recognizes that trust and responsibility are a two way street and that you can't pin your problems on others forever.

That is your actual perception of the race problem in this country? That's it? If so, then I have news for you. You are part of the problem too.

 

[dk001]

As much as I don't want him to be president, watching Trump's rambling victory speech he called Cruz "lying Ted" and Rubio "little Marco". That's priceless!

EDIT - and some of the stuff he says does make sense! Someone needs to be tough on China who run roughshod over the rules Western countries have to follow, and the US healthcare system is a mess!

We are so used to hearing from politicians in a certain fashion, and journalists are taught how to drill down to get that kernel of truth, a candidate who just wings it out there is met with aghast. There has to be some anomaly or deeper meaning to his diatribe.
But there isn't for the most part. It isn't polished. It isn't "pretty" or "inciting the masses".
It's strangely refreshing and makes you think for a moment.
Trump is if nothing else, a newness in this crap-pile we call politics.