Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Educate yourself if you think Apple hasn’t handled the President brilliantly. I’m not dignifying it with a long explanation. He’s been better than superb.
Rule of thumb: People who start their post with „lol“ don’t care about educating themselves.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Baymowe335
just ignore posters that upset you. All you are doing now is feeding them.

it’s not hard to do. A simple button push.
Im not upset, and I’ve got a very large ignore list lol. My question is what happens when no one is here to feed them?

I guess it not surprising these threads about Cook draw dozens of knee-jerk comments from the Apple-hate crowd, since his success simply infuriates them.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Baymowe335
Success, maybe.... Innovation i don't think so.
The success has come through other products like the Wearables, services and Other non-product related like Apple pay and credit card. The entire line up of computer has never been so outdated, overpriced, with poor quality control, with major lack of innovation and so out of touch with the users needs...
The entirety of the wearables lineup and iPhone has been nothing but innovative and it shows in the success of those business segments.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Baymowe335
The entirety of the wearables lineup and iPhone has been nothing but innovative and it shows in the success of those business segments.

Innovation is part of the success of those business segments. I doubt it is the largest contributing factor. People here continually underestimate brand power, culture, and lock in
 
Innovation is part of the success of those business segments. I doubt it is the largest contributing factor. People here continually underestimate brand power, culture, and lock in
I agree that innovation is part of the success. But that factor is often downplayed or eliminated.
 
Last edited:
The entirety of the wearables lineup and iPhone has been nothing but innovative and it shows in the success of those business segments.

You keep repeating the same thing over an over. If you read my post, i specifically mention the computer line up. Wearables have been innovative. iPhones NOT. Although iPhones 11 are good, putting a new camera is NOT innovating.
[automerge]1576083730[/automerge]
 
You keep repeating the same thing over an over.
As do you.
If you read my post, i specifically mention the computer line up. Wearables have been innovative. iPhones NOT. Although iPhones 11 are good, putting a new camera is NOT innovating.
Yes, you keep repeating the same theme. In your opinion about the computer lineup, but I’m glad there is acknowledgment this does not represent the entirety of Apple products. But I disagree about iPhones not being innovative. Innovation is a personal moving definition.
 
Wow, the hate is strong in the Cook threads lol. Anyone who looks at their patents can know just how much innovation is coming out of Apple. But much of what’s going on behind closed doors won’t be released for years, so many of the complainers in this thread are just uninformed. That’s understandable, since Apple’s security is so good.

But as these threads more and more become a toxic cesspool of hate, I wonder what happens to these comment threads when the last few Apple supporters finally get tired of pushing back against it.

It is quite funny that everybody that disagree with you and critics Tim Cook ridiculous comments are the haters. It is actually the other way around. You lack complete objectivity. I truly do not understand how many posters, just praise Cook and Apple for anything and even take the time to look for pathetic excuses, even if it has been the worse product in the entire Apple history like the MBP 2016+ that had ZERO innovation in the past 3 years. Conveniently covering up major product failures with users hate is pointless.
Is has been a fact that you simply chose to ignore.
Apple deserves credit where credit is due like wearables. But praising Apple blindly like you do, is simply complete nonsense.
 
Cook is good enough keeping apple running. When a competitor like tesla comes he will fail - its easy as that.
my last long lasting apple,device was the iphone 4s - all other stuff like MacBook, ipad pros, several iphones barely survive some years although treated really well! FACT
 
I think the issue boils down to innovation in legacy hardware like MacBook line, iMac, Mac Pro versus newer services focus, wearable tech etc. I personally feel it’s fair to say Cook is correct and incorrect, making these kinds of threads break down eventually into the “Apple haters” ( or “Tim Cook haters” v “Apple evangelists” or Tim Cook supporters.
I want to believe the majority on this site want Apple to succeed, but as it has expanded into so many directions (and to be honest, made more $$$ largely in those which depart/ expand from where Apple started) you will never find consensus on terms like “innovation”. I’m in the camp which has concerns about future of Macs overall and what I want as far as “innovation”, but think I’d be a fool to also say the iPhone and other Apple projects have not been innovative.
And let’s face it, “innovation” is such an objective term.....
 
Tim Cook SMH

Why???????
- Because SJ recommended him for the job
- Because under Tim Apple has done very well
[automerge]1576086734[/automerge]
Cook is good enough keeping apple running.
Apple more than “just running”.
When a competitor like tesla comes he will fail - its easy as that.
Don’t think it’s as easy as all that, but okay.

my last long lasting apple,device was the iphone 4s - all other stuff like MacBook, ipad pros, several iphones barely survive some years although treated really well! FACT
FACT - except for my iPhone 7 my post-Jobs devices have gone the distance. YMMV.

The iPhone 7 died two months after AC expired. I bought a new phone.
 
Last edited:
As if the media would ever cover the gripes over an operating system. What you’re referring to is a livestream with a bunch of computer nerds yelling at him for the poor performance of iOS 13. That’s the only way it would get covered.

You never heard Steve Jobs talking about iOS, demonstrating Apple TV to Walt Mossberg, iTunes, several hardware?
Tim talk way more with the press than Steve ever did. There is one topic (not product!) that Tim talks over and over again. We get it Tim!
If you asked Tim what he think about Geekbench, he probably would answer that he prefers a chair.
 
Innovative my ass. AppleMail is still the same old **** everyone else does. Apple
has not kept up with the times and I still get plenty ******** email — despite not subscribing to all this crap. It’s an easy thing to implement something that makes email management easier — but no one (except Google) seems to be trying.
 
  • Like
Reactions: decypher44
Innovative my ass. AppleMail is still the same old **** everyone else does. Apple
has not kept up with the times and I still get plenty ******** email — despite not subscribing to all this crap. It’s an easy thing to implement something that makes email management easier — but no one (except Google) seems to be trying.
So Apple doesn’t innovate because you get junk mail?
 
I agree that innovation is part of the success. But that factor is often downplayed or eliminated.

I would argue that "innovation" in this context is often overplayed. I won't repeat the negatives which greatly outnumber the positives. Marketing and branding is very much downplayed or eliminated, but it is never recognized by people such as yourself as a core to Apple's success.

When was the last time we've seen posters like you and others even identify marketing/branding as a core Apple strength? I'd say probably 0.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PC_tech
I would argue that "innovation" in this context is often overplayed. I won't repeat the negatives which greatly outnumber the positives. Marketing and branding is very much downplayed or eliminated, but it is never recognized by people such as yourself as a core to Apple's success.

When was the last time we've seen posters like you and others even identify marketing/branding as a core Apple strength? I'd say probably 0.
Well on the other hand, my argument is the exact opposite as yours. Innovation is virtually eliminated as a core strength of Apple and branding is the entire and only reason for apples success.

The thing is while I recognize the powerful Apple branding, I also recognize innovation. I can’t remember the last time you recognized innovation from apple as a core factor in its’ success.

As far as negatives and positives MR is an echo chamber, except Apple success speak for itself. Can’t negatively explain it away.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.