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Cancer killed him, not his passion for the best product.
Pancreatic Cancer can kill randomly without and preexisting or underlying cause, but it can also manifest itself from other health problems or environmental causes, like stress and diet, drugs, alcohol etc... Steve INHO worked himself to death.
 
Apple is selling more devices than ever. What is that if not increasing market share?

If anything, Tim Cook appears to be following Steve Job's guidebook.

Market share is decreasing for both Mac line and iPad line, remaining steady for iPhone.
All bills seem "thinner." ;)

I think the variation of your question is this: Can one MISS $1.5million when...





$145 million vs. $146.5 million. Would one notice? Would one care?

That's the price of the La Ferrari that Tim could have brought for me.
 
Those salaries are ludicrous
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Pancreatic Cancer can kill randomly without and preexisting or underlying cause, but it can also manifest itself from other health problems or environmental causes, like stress and diet, drugs, alcohol etc... Steve INHO worked himself to death.

As did his Fruitarian diet and refusal to go for surgery
 
This is the stuff Third World countries and revolutions are made of....

In 1965, the average CEO of a large company made 20 times what the average worker made. By 1989 the ratio had grown to 59 to 1 in 1989, then shot up to 376 to 1 in 2000.

Is Tim Cook worth anything close to what he is being paid? Are any of the others? I don't think so, and I think the whole system is nuts.

Don't worry, all such systems are self-correcting. Eventually, one person or an increasingly few will own it all. Then the starving masses will rebel, chop their heads off and the system starts anew. Look back through history when the wealth of a nation or (the known) world got concentrated into the hands of one or a very few. What happened to those "winners"? It always ends badly... then gets a fresh start in some kind of new system.
 
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the decision by the major shareholders and higher ups was that Apple had figured out its "INNOVATION" and it was time to just make some cash.

Apple has all but abandoned the MacOS market, and has all the eggs in the iOS, iPad and iPhone market. Thats where the money is.

Couldn't find any evidence of these things on google. Makes for a nice narrative, though, albeit likely fiction.

If the market gets shaken up and a decent replacement comes out for the iPhone and Apple was just making money off of phones and tablets, and all the MacOS users have gone over to windows or linux or chrome or BeOS or NeXT or whatever, then Apple could be screwed.

Tim Cook is not great for an innovative company, but he's great for making the margins and profits for iPhones greater and greater.

Again, sounds pretty but isn't backed up by anything. The theory is right, but I could also say Apple is doomed because they don't have large asteroid building insurance and they all could die any minute now. Exactly the amount of evidence for that statement as yours. But, in theory, could happen.

Apple as a computer company is "going down," but as a lifestyle and gadget company, its fine. And everyone knows Tim Cook is not a visionary, he's an accountant. That is all he ever has been.

AND if your sitting on 50b in cash a bean counting accountant is the best thing you could have, to keep that 50b.

Didn't know you were on the board at Apple. What else can you leak for us who want to trade on the market or sell ideas to competitors?
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• Apple hardware engineering chief Dan Riccio: $22,807,544

That made me chuckle

For what !?!?!?

That right there is the problem ...
Gotta be blind to not see the engineering innovation Apple has done over the last five years. You as a consumer may not like it, but you seriously cannot deny the innovation is an engineering feat.
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This is the stuff Third World countries and revolutions are made of....

In 1965, the average CEO of a large company made 20 times what the average worker made. By 1989 the ratio had grown to 59 to 1 in 1989, then shot up to 376 to 1 in 2000.

Is Tim Cook worth anything close to what he is being paid? Are any of the others? I don't think so, and I think the whole system is nuts.
I'm glad you said "I don't think so," because clearly the market thinks so, and the market dictates CEO pricing, just how free agency in major sports (without incredibly stupid salary caps and spending limits) dictates the worth of a player's skills.
 
That's the whole point. Tim was never Apple's product guy to begin with, and therefore shouldn't be graded as such, much less compared with the late Steve Jobs.

Apple's product guy is, for all intents and purposes, Jony Ive and his team and like it or not, he's the best you've got.

Ive is an object designer. That's all he is. A product guy is the one that thinks of the next best thing and which one is it that can be attributed to Ive?
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Those ridiculous salaries could pay a lot of US employees making Apple products in the US.

It's funny when a complete sod like Cue gets such money running in circle jerk and professional engineers making it all run get peanuts compared to him.
 
Ive is an object designer. That's all he is. A product guy is the one that thinks of the next best thing and which one is it that can be attributed to Ive?

All of it.

Apple is a design-led company. This means that Ive and his team hold much of the final say in the company and pretty much get to dictate the final form of a product. The engineers then have to find a way to fit the specs they want into that form factor.

If you have wondered why the iPhone has ditched the headphone jack and looks to be dumping the home button next, look no further than Ive's desire for the iPhone to appear as nothing more than a single slab of glass. The new Apple accessories (Apple mouse, pencil, battery case) all have his signature on them. I won't be surprised if the engineers at Apple were handed the new MacBook Pro casing and told "how much battery you can cram inside is how much battery life the customers are going to get."

What do you think wearables and watches are, if not defined and differentiated by design? They were clearly Jony's pet projects as well. Cars and transportation? Also Jony Ive. Don't be surprised if Apple goes into the clothing line in the future courtesy of him as well.
 
All of it.

Apple is a design-led company. This means that Ive and his team hold much of the final say in the company and pretty much get to dictate the final form of a product. The engineers then have to find a way to fit the specs they want into that form factor.

If you have wondered why the iPhone has ditched the headphone jack and looks to be dumping the home button next, look no further than Ive's desire for the iPhone to appear as nothing more than a single slab of glass. The new Apple accessories (Apple mouse, pencil, battery case) all have his signature on them. I won't be surprised if the engineers at Apple were handed the new MacBook Pro casing and told "how much battery you can cram inside is how much battery life the customers are going to get."

What do you think wearables and watches are, if not defined and differentiated by design? They were clearly Jony's pet projects as well. Cars and transportation? Also Jony Ive. Don't be surprised if Apple goes into the clothing line in the future courtesy of him as well.

Design is a part of it after someone had the brains to think of it as a product and even then it's not like he went and made it happen all by himself.
 
Blah blah blah. Everyone's an expert.

Self-entitled narcissistic knobheads, mostly. At least we know that when Cook is fired for making too much money, the board of directors can come here looking for a replacement to propel Apple into the next Galaxy.

The one thing I would like to see though, is a new design of iPad that doesn't try to cut my fingers off. It continues to baffle me that all current iPads are framed with razor wire. Come on 'Timmy' sort it out!

:D
 
Cancer killed him, not his passion for the best product.

Steve left his cancer untreated for a long time because he was too busy with Apple and didn't take it seriously enough at first.
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For being in charge of all hardware development at Apple? WTF do you think he does (or ostensibly doesn't do)?

Well Apple doesn't seem to be developing new hardware these days, so I'd say he doesn't do a whole lot.
 
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don't worry he has plenty of money in the form of stock that he has gotten or is to come in the future. I don't think he is the right leader for Apple though. I am wondering why Steve suggested him to lead Apple

Simple ... economies of scale, negotiations for supply chain parts and assured contractural deliveries (Mac, iPhone, iPad, and router components, agreement with Intel on processors) and with that lots of DOA's of said components to not cost Apple a penny nor even cost Apple for components on hand. Here is what Cook was known for and his expertise. Early 2010 Apple panel Q&A shows him backing Jobs in terms of such questions. He knew negotiations and deliveries with aplomb ... THAT is why he was considered heavily for CEO .. nobody else in the business had this, the respect of the heads and team members as well as the recommendation from Jobs himselft.

Plain and simple. But is this required now since Apple has the negotiating power/prowess under it's belt for years?
 
This is sickening they make this exorbitant amount of money as a yearly salary while Apple store employees barely survive making under $35,000 a year! Really what do they do to deserve this $$$$ when it's the store employees who are ultimately generating the sales to pay these overpaid executives while low level store retail employees can barely make rent and buy groceries.
 
This is sickening they make this exorbitant amount of money as a yearly salary while Apple store employees barely survive making under $35,000 a year! Really what do they do to deserve this $$$$ when it's the store employees who are ultimately generating the sales to pay these overpaid executives while low level store retail employees can barely make rent and buy groceries.

I'm not exactly a fan of Timmy, but it's funny that you think the store employees generate that many sales. Or that the CEO of Apple is responsible for less than 250 times as much revenue as an average retail employee.
 
Angela made $23 million for what? Turning Apple into a fashion company? The watch that isn't selling as well?

Don't forget where it all started. Apple is a computer company, not a fashion brand. The two will not converge once computing power gathers pace again.

You're mistaken.
"Apple Tax", Starbucks Apple Logo trenders, even with Jobs the push for Text/Font, The Crazy One's add, "We're Artist's" need I say more?

Apple became a fashion brand with The Crazy One's add's featuring greats and the greatest artist and fashion icons of our time. It was pretty much solidified by featuring the iBook ads at picnic tables with users holding a non branded coffee cup with holder that was so iconic with Starbucks. The rest is history, including the pricing of their products, their products mostly in the Black vs White casings as a first .... yes it's both a Fashion and an elite brand.

Example

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-as-main-device.2007716/page-23#post-24151509

Post by Synergie.
 
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shame cookie couldn't get Phil Shiller and Eddie Cue off the beach long enough to design anything...
 
How about Jobs introducing the MacBook Air with a single USB port, an 80 GB spinning disk, 2 GB of RAM, an anemic CPU that (unbelievably) caused laptop overheating. All for $1,800. You think that was not driven by cost? I remember all the whining when that came out.
I bought the 2nd version of that machine and it was more than $2,000 at the time for maxed out RAM and an SSD. And you know what, it was the best laptop I've ever owned and still is useful to this day.

How about Apple getting out of the printer business years ago, a business that became incredibly commoditized with low cost printers, and one Apple could not compete in. Same thing with displays.
Laptops are pretty commoditized as are smartphones these days as well. Perhaps Apple should just hang it up and retire ;)

With respect to the MBP and iPhone working together, it seems you do not understand how transition periods work and there has never been perfection during past transitions. The MBP was released after the iPhone 7. There will always be a group of people not satisfied. Include the wrong cable, people whine. Include the other cable, people whine. Include both cables and people whine about Apple not caring about the environment and e-waste. Shocker...
Nice to know you think that the MBP group had no idea what the iPhone group was planning and vice versa, and moreover really nice to know that you think it is acceptable to introduce user problems where there were none before. I am all in favor of the new USB-C standard, but then why not ship the iPhone 7 with a USB-C port or at very least make the lightening to power charger cable use USB-C. If they do not do this next year, your theory of a "transitions" issue will really be one of poor planning and customer insight.
 
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Steve left his cancer untreated for a long time because he was too busy with Apple and didn't take it seriously enough at first.

What is your source for this? No bio that I have read said he left it untreated because he was too busy running Apple.
 
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If you read the whole article, it looks like Tim gets paid a lot less than other executives at Apple. So many angry people in here just posting negativity anytime his name comes up. He does not need to tie his salary so much to incentives, and I bet his 3 million base is significantly lower than other, much less successful CEO's.

Let's not forget that as soon as he was named CED he was given ~$300 million (not sure exactly in what form and don't care to look it up - it's the number that matters).
 
Dear Corporate Governing Board of APPL shareholders,

PLEASE FIRE TIM COOK!

He's the devil. He destroyed Apple. He destroyed Mac. He's as bad as Ballmer. Stop the bleeding and fire him already.

Thanks!
 
Well knowing he's earning a cool £700k+ a month is not something I want to read on a day I find Ive been shafted by two clients this month and sat looking at a tiny £12.52 in my bank.
 
I bought the 2nd version of that machine and it was more than $2,000 at the time for maxed out RAM and an SSD. And you know what, it was the best laptop I've ever owned and still is useful to this day.

Laptops are pretty commoditized as are smartphones these days as well. Perhaps Apple should just hang it up and retire ;)


Nice to know you think that the MBP group had no idea what the iPhone group was planning and vice versa, and moreover really nice to know that you think it is acceptable to introduce user problems where there were none before. I am all in favor of the new USB-C standard, but then why not ship the iPhone 7 with a USB-C port or at very least make the lightening to power charger cable use USB-C. If they do not do this next year, your theory of a "transitions" issue will really be one of poor planning and customer insight.

Many laptops are commoditized. Apple's are not.

"Nice to know you think that the MBP group had no idea what the iPhone group was planning and vice versa, and moreover really nice to know that you think it is acceptable to introduce user problems where there were none before."

That's apparently your opinion, your words typed on your keyboard, certainly not something I claimed or typed. That's a silly premise.


"I am all in favor of the new USB-C standard, but then why not ship the iPhone 7 with a USB-C port or at very least make the lightening to power charger cable use USB-C. "

Because if Apple shipped the iPhone 7 with a USB C cable, the hundreds of millions of people owning computers without USB C interfaces, the majority of computers at the moment, would whine. It sounds like you are not aware that USB C is relatively new.

The extraordinarily simple solution is to buy a tiny and highly rated USB A to USB C adapter for $4. Keep the adapter plugged in to your USB A to Lightning cable all the time and you'll always be good to go.
 
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True, I would have left Apple years ago but where would I run too? Google? They are the most evil corp on the planet with regards to censorship and privacy.
 
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