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Pancreatic Cancer can kill randomly without and preexisting or underlying cause, but it can also manifest itself from other health problems or environmental causes, like stress and diet, drugs, alcohol etc... Steve INHO worked himself to death.

more likely the vegan diet killed him
 
Design is a part of it after someone had the brains to think of it as a product and even then it's not like he went and made it happen all by himself.

Steve Jobs didn't make the iPhone or the iPad all by himself either. He conceptualised the end product, then farmed out the various components to the respective engineers.

"I want you to code a glass keyboard."

"You, shrink the circuit board down to the size of my fingernail."

Etc.

That's what distinguishes Apple from the other companies. Other companies let engineering have all the say. They make the product, then design is responsible for dressing it up. Here at Apple, design takes precedence. That's how we have stuff like the Apple Pencil's clever charging mechanism. Precisely because design has as much say at Apple, if not more.
 
Jobs was also such a strong personality he could easily push back on others in Apple when he didn't like something. I see that lacking in Cook and so I think some of the design choices being made are a result of other strong people enforcing their will.
Tim Cook is a YES MAN. A people pleaser who hasn't pleased many of Apple's consumers. He is a puppet president like how Obama is.
 
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Apple Executive Compensation in 2016

• Apple CEO Tim Cook: $8,747,719
- Accordingly, Cook earned roughly $145 million last year, his biggest payout yet as head of the company.
• Apple CFO Luca Maestri: $22,803,569
• Apple retail chief Angela Ahrendts: $22,902,892
• Apple services chief Eddy Cue: $22,807,544
• Apple hardware engineering chief Dan Riccio: $22,807,544
• Apple general counsel Bruce Sewell: $22,807,544

No, this is why they can't build a Mac in the USA, they need half a billion dollars the feed the pigs at the trough.
(no the above does not add up to half a billion, but the above does not include all executives.)
They killed the mac and at the same time got paid like they actually were producing something great.
And Charging $3000 for an out of date computer.
What is the exec to worker pay ratio at Apple now?
Disgusting.
https://www.amazon.com/Pigs-Trough-Corporate-Corruption-Undermining/dp/1400051266
 
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Steve Jobs didn't make the iPhone or the iPad all by himself either. He conceptualised the end product, then farmed out the various components to the respective engineers.

"I want you to code a glass keyboard."

"You, shrink the circuit board down to the size of my fingernail."

Etc.

That's what distinguishes Apple from the other companies. Other companies let engineering have all the say. They make the product, then design is responsible for dressing it up. Here at Apple, design takes precedence. That's how we have stuff like the Apple Pencil's clever charging mechanism. Precisely because design has as much say at Apple, if not more.
I wouldn't call a long stick that protrudes from your iPad, waiting to break off, a clever charging mechanism. It's the complete opposite of good design.
 
I wouldn't call a long stick that protrudes from your iPad, waiting to break off, a clever charging mechanism. It's the complete opposite of good design.

It's the only way I charge my iPad. I find it's clever, gets the job done without the need for any extra cables or adaptors, and isn't as silly as people here seem to be making out to be.
 
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They've been incredibly profitable under his leadership, why would they fire a successful CEO who has increased profits, marketshare?

I may not be a fan of him, but using the metrics that business people use to measure success/failure. He's been an unabashed success.

Yes you are right, but by the same measurement Steve Ballmer was a fantastic CEO for Microsoft. Under Ballmer's leadership Microsoft made money hand over fist like never before. But they lost out on mobile because he didn't have that vision, he just stuck to what made lots of money.
 
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Performance targets under Steve Jobs: The best products, customer experience
Performance targets under Tim Cook: More $$$
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Yes you are right, but by the same measurement Steve Ballmer was a fantastic CEO for Microsoft. Under Ballmer's leadership Microsoft made money hand over fist like never before. But they lost out on mobile because he didn't have that vision, he just stuck to what made lots of money.

Both completely enraged their customer base.
 
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Seems like he has done a whole lot.

The iPhone installed base has grown by 500M users.
The iPad installed base has grown by 175M users.
The Mac installed base has grown by 50M users.
Apple introduced Apple Watch, the company's first wearable product. Approximately 18M Apple Watches, a device positioned as an iPhone accessory, have been sold to date.
Apple is earning more than $6B per year of revenue through app sales via the App Store.
Apple successfully made the difficult jump from a paid music download model to streaming and is approaching 20M paying Apple Music subscribers.
Apple continues to push forward with Apple TV. The company is approaching 10M units sold since the device was updated in 2015.
Apple continues to develop key services including Apple Pay, Messages, and Maps.

His salary is not that all unreasonable when you consider how much he has helped Apple earn.
Where do you get those figures from?

Apple stated in 2016 it had over 1 billion active devices (iPhone, iPad, watch, mac, apple tv).
In 2012 they had approx 700 million active devices.
So that would suggest they have grown active devices by 300 million in 4 years.

As they say past performance in no predictor of future performance, look at IBM, Microsoft, Nokia, Yahoo...
(Albeit that Microsoft might actually be turning it around)

Isn't Apple plateauing at the moment?
 
They've been incredibly profitable under his leadership, why would they fire a successful CEO who has increased profits, marketshare?

I may not be a fan of him, but using the metrics that business people use to measure success/failure. He's been an unabashed success.
He's great as COO...not CEO. If he wants to play "maximize profit" that's what COO would do. CEO has to be balanced in all areas...not one sided.
 
Scary....we might be reliving history

What's even more dire is smartphone marketshare is also approaching single digit like Steve Jobs warned while Cook and crew are painting a rosy picture and misleading small investors.

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This community is quick to get bent out of shape when just about anything is posted these days. What is happening to Apple and at Apple is definitely of interest, but it's no different to any other tech company.

The difference is that there are lots of Apple customers who are woven into the fabric of Apple because of the great product and service we have been accustomed to over the years.

For me personally, being embedded in the Apple ecosystem means that I take a critical view of every breath Apple take, and I would say that I am not just customers, but a Stakeholders (I don't own shares). I've seen many a comment in this forum about jumping ship or migrating to Microsoft, and have even had these thoughts too. It would take a Huge amount of effort, not to mention culture shift, to move platforms after being with Apple for the best part of three decades.
 
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What's even more dire is smartphone marketshare is also approaching single digit like Steve Jobs warned while Cook and crew are painting a rosy picture and misleading small investors.

World_Wide_Smartphone_Sales_Share.png

History seems to be repeating itself. Apple focusing on reaching record high profits and losing vision while its flagship platform is decreasing to near single digit marketshare. Resting on laurels like in the 90s.
 
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This community is quick to get bent out of shape when just about anything is posted these days. What is happening to Apple and at Apple is definitely of interest, but it's no different to any other tech company.

The difference is that there are lots of Apple customers who are woven into the fabric of Apple because of the great product and service we have been accustomed to over the years.

For me personally, being embedded in the Apple ecosystem means that I take a critical view of every breath Apple take, and I would say that I am not just customers, but a Stakeholders (I don't own shares). I've seen many a comment in this forum about jumping ship or migrating to Microsoft, and have even had these thoughts too. It would take a Huge amount of effort, not to mention culture shift, to move platforms after being with Apple for the best part of three decades.

I would suggest a 12 step Apple to Windows program. You could start by installing Windows 10 via Bootcamp and play with it for a while. I did that and learned to enjoy it. To the point where I purchased a touchscreen Windows 10 laptop for business. I too live in an Apple eco system, but as time goes by and Apple starts to drop the hardware ball in areas like networking and set top boxes, I have looked elsewhere.

I have already replaced my Airport time capsule router with a faster and better Netgear router and a QNAP NAS for storage. Very satisfied, and I still have the time machine backup option on the NAS as well.

I also went with an AppleTV four but was not happy. Went to a Roku. Works great. There is life outside of Apple.

But don't get me wrong. I still have an iPhone 7 plus, a 6 plus, two iPads, two MacBook Airs, and a Mac Mini.

I find both operating systems can coexist. I installed iCloud on my Windows machine. Syncs with contacts and calendars across devices just like it does on my MBA.
 
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Apple Executive Compensation in 2016

• Apple CEO Tim Cook: $8,747,719
- Accordingly, Cook earned roughly $145 million last year, his biggest payout yet as head of the company.
• Apple CFO Luca Maestri: $22,803,569
• Apple retail chief Angela Ahrendts: $22,902,892
• Apple services chief Eddy Cue: $22,807,544
• Apple hardware engineering chief Dan Riccio: $22,807,544
• Apple general counsel Bruce Sewell: $22,807,544

No, this is why they can't build a Mac in the USA, they need half a billion dollars the feed the pigs at the trough.
(no the above does not add up to half a billion, but the above does not include all executives.)
They killed the mac and at the same time got paid like they actually were producing something great.
And Charging $3000 for an out of date computer.
What is the exec to worker pay ratio at Apple now?
Disgusting.
https://www.amazon.com/Pigs-Trough-Corporate-Corruption-Undermining/dp/1400051266

Yes, and Americans love it! Given the chance, they will vote for corporations to take more and more money for executive pay and give less and less to workers. The average voter will rally in the streets cheering corporate greed and asking for MORE! Give them Washington and Wall Street elites for every elected and appointed office in government! It's amazing to listen to working people forcefully defend the very people who are keeping them economically enslaved. They'll tell you have you shouldn't have "sour grapes" because you're not rich - "if you want to be like these billionaire executives, you just need to get an education and work hard - otherwise quit whining!" The real triumph of propaganda is to be able to convince citizens to advocate for something that's not in their best interest. It's succeeded.
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What's even more dire is smartphone marketshare is also approaching single digit like Steve Jobs warned while Cook and crew are painting a rosy picture and misleading small investors.

World_Wide_Smartphone_Sales_Share.png

Unfortunately, your graph is entitled "Smartphone Sales", but it graphs OPERATING SYSTEMS. If it were a graph of smartphone sales, iPhone would be far in the lead, as always.
 
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Pancreatic Cancer can kill randomly without and preexisting or underlying cause, but it can also manifest itself from other health problems or environmental causes, like stress and diet, drugs, alcohol etc... Steve INHO worked himself to death.

I'm assuming your not a health expert by any standards, that said, you do know Jobs ignored treatment order by Doctors to battle his cancer? Which by the way, was reported he would purportedly still be here today if he had not been stubborn and participated in the treatment advised by his Physician. Jobs instead, decided to Go on his own self cleanse, which failed.

So you can subjectively say that Jobs worked himself to death, but nobody can speak for genetics and how that disease manifested itself, where it took his life when he had various control. It was a decision that ultimately took his life.
 
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Timmy should be put back in his cave he came from. He did very good in that cave! And I admire him for the good things he's done under Steve. Sadly, he proved not to be a visionary or a tech lover who's able to push the bar higher. If he would put the same amount of energy in hard-, software and services as they put in campus 2 and Apple stores, they would be doing so much better. Sadly they've changed into a fashion shop but don't recognize their fashion is out of date :(


STOP! STOP! Every one of your posts is making way too much sense, we don't accept that here.
:D

I seriously could not agree more with you on everything.
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Let's see:
Aston Martin a cool $ 190.000 car
Gigantic Mansion $ 5.000.000 plus
A fancy looking spring, summer, autumm, winter outfit each comes in at around 15.000 that's $ 60.000
Flying first class $ 2.000
Gadgets well he doesn't have to pay for them

Always found it catching me off guard with the period to separate large numbers instead of the comma. Yep, I'm from the states and we like to pretend only we exist in this world. hehe
 
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