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I think I must be missing something here. Somebody please explain to me what advantage this has (for desktop computer owners) to simply plugging an external HD into a USB outlet. I'm not trying to be a smart-arse; I really don't understand.

1) The bad guy breaks in to steal all your computer goodies and sees your expensive desktop computer and takes it, along with the easy to carry attached hard disk. Your backups are now gone also.

2) The bad guy breaks in to steal all your computer goodies and sees your expensive desktop computer and takes it, but your back up HD, attached to an AEBS, is buried in a closest or behind your desk or under your dirty gym clothes, completely out of sight to said bad guy. Your computer is gone, but your wireless backup system and your non-insurance covered data, stays.
 
Steve Jobs announced regarding Time Machine at WWDC in June 2007 that you can use an external drive connected to a Mac or to an Airport Extreme. You can find this fact on the keynote video or on liveblogs that covered the event. Following the event Apple advertised this as a feature to the Time Machine. This feature was removed from advertising sometime close or following to the Leopard's launch.

That happened on a World Wide Developer Conference. That is a conference intended to inform developers what is likely to happen in the future. It is understood by all participants that anything announced there is subject to change without any notice, without giving any reason. It is _not_ an advertisement in any way, shape or form. If a consumer does anything based on information that comes from WWDC, they have only got themselves to blame.

Now try to find any actual _advertisement_ that announced Time Machine working with Airport Extreme. Like TV ad, radio ad, newspaper ad, something on the Apple website other than in developer sections that the general public cannot reach.
 
I think I must be missing something here. Somebody please explain to me what advantage this has (for desktop computer owners) to simply plugging an external HD into a USB outlet. I'm not trying to be a smart-arse; I really don't understand.

I have been wanting to do something like this for a while (Network-Attached Storage) so that I do not have to be strapped to my desk to play music off of my external hard drive...this is one step closer to a truly wireless apartment.
 
According to the comments at MacDailyNews
Apple does not support time machine backups via the AEBS and an attached HDD.
Is the Backup really reliable?

You slightly misread the article. They state that it is unclear at this time whether Apple officially supports backups to AEBS.
 
Slightly different problem I think...

I'm experiencing something a little different to what people have reported so far... I have a 1Tb Iomega drive connected to the USB port of my Airport Extreme, and Time Machine can see the drive and I can then kick off a backup but after a fair bit of crunching and grinding I get the error message 'The backup disk image could not be created' in Time Machine, with the 'Latest Backup' reading 'Failed' in red text.

Until yesterday I had been connecting the drive to my mac via the firewire cable and the backup file was a couple of hundred Gbs I think...

Anyone think it's worth me formatting the drive and starting from scratch, or could something else be afoot?
 
According to the comments at MacDailyNews
Apple does not support time machine backups via the AEBS and an attached HDD.
Is the Backup really reliable?

The comment says that macdailynews hasn't found any official statement where Apple says officially "a USB hard drive connected to AEBS will work correctly with Time Machine".

On the other hand, if you have a Macintosh with an unhacked Leopard system, latest Apple software, a hard drive connected in whatever way, and if then Leopard shows that hard drive as available for Time Machine, then it _must_ work. And that is what happens with the combination AEBS + USB hard drive, so it has to work correctly.

The "unhacked" is important: If Leopard figures out that Time Machine doesn't work with your hard drive and doesn't show that drive as available, and then you hack the system so that Time Machine still uses the drive, then whatever goes wrong is your fault.
 
Now will people stop bitching now?

It's unfortunate that Apple took so long to produce this update - even for basic AirDisk functionality, but at last it has arrived and with what appears to be everything we could hope for, so I say forgive and forget.

Apple really should learn to improve their customer communications though - customers would be a lot more understanding if Apple had officially acknowledged that the firmware didn't work, and that they were working on a solution. The whole Time Capsule announcement in the face of silence with regards to the broken Airport Extreme firmware was a real kick in the teeth.
 
Bit harsh on those who ended up with Time Capsule because it seemed like this wasn't ever getting fixed, after having bought an Airport Express, IMO.
Could've said that they were working on it.
 
Bit harsh on those who ended up with Time Capsule because it seemed like this wasn't ever getting fixed, after having bought an Airport Express, IMO.
Could've said that they were working on it.

Yup, they seem to have taken cues about communication from the people behind Spymac (if anyone remember them).
 
It doesn't appear to work with account management, but works fine with having the disk Password Protected, so that's a little better than having it wide-open shared.

My experience was great, installed the firmware, the drive showed up, and time Machine started backing up, just like when it was hard-cabled to my computer. Didn't even have to change the TM Backup disk in TM Prefs. :)
 
Hi. I've read this entire thread and TUAW, and I *think* I know the answer to this, but I wanted to ask directly and make sure:

I have an external hard drive that I was using for Time Machine backups. I partitioned it so that part could be used for stuff I didn't want to back up forever. I would plug it directly into my Macbook via Firewire.

I have downloaded all the updates. I am using a hub. (Wireless printing still works fine, by the way). Time Machine and my Mac can "see" both my old Time Machine partition and my old storage partition. That all seems normal. But if I were to enable backups at this point, *would Time Machine make an entirely new backup?* Because when I tell Time Machine to use the same partition it was using before, it does seem to be able to access the previous backups when I go to the starfield view.

I've turned off automatic backups for now until I figure this out. It doesn't really matter to me to do a new backup, because I really don't have that much to back up anyway. But I'm not sure why people are saying that they have had to start from scratch, when I can pull up my own backups with not too much problem (though whatever I'm doing is making my Mac work pretty hard; the fan keeps spinning up.)

ETA: Okay, now I've done something weird. I *was* able to see that old Time Machine backup, but now, I can't find it any more. I've done something...changed some setting, perhaps. But it was there, honest! :)
 
And you misread my posting.
I referred to the comments, not the article itself.

I see what you were referring to now. Nevertheless, that was just a comment from one user and not an official statement by Apple that they do not support this.
 
It doesn't appear to work with account management, but works fine with having the disk Password Protected, so that's a little better than having it wide-open shared.

My experience was great, installed the firmware, the drive showed up, and time Machine started backing up, just like when it was hard-cabled to my computer. Didn't even have to change the TM Backup disk in TM Prefs. :)


It will work with account management (from a video on gizmodo).. but I can't get it to work for more than one computer(in account mode/disk password mode/extreme password mode). The Mac I formatted the drive on (which writes a .com.apple.timemachine.supported) file to the drive will now allow time machine to write to it (over air disk).. but any other machines that can connect to the air disk can 'see' it as a selection in Time Machine but when you select it, it errors out.
 
I've got a question I'm hoping someone can answer.

I am currently using a USB drive to back up my computer via Time Machine. If I get a Airport Extreme, plug that same USB drive into the Extreme, will it register on the computer as the same drive, eliminating the need to start from scratch, or will I have to start all over leaving several hours with no real backups in place?

Thanks!
 
I've got a question I'm hoping someone can answer.

I am currently using a USB drive to back up my computer via Time Machine. If I get a Airport Extreme, plug that same USB drive into the Extreme, will it register on the computer as the same drive, eliminating the need to start from scratch, or will I have to start all over leaving several hours with no real backups in place?

Thanks!

i had to reformat the disk and start with a fresh backup. time machine via airdisk was trying to make a completely new backup rather than using my existing one.
but on that note, my backup finished last night (i did it via Ethernet) and its working great. i can confirm that switching from ethernet or wifi airdisk to direct USB connection into your computer with the backup drive ALL WORK fine with Time Machine once a new backup is made :)
 
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