Trump Administration Delivers on H-1B Visa Overhaul, Affecting Tech Companies Hiring Foreign Talent

[Rigby]

Thank you Trump administration. H1b is the main reason why American kids don't want to get into stem program.

If that's the case, these "American kids" are seriously misinformed. In the grand scheme of things, the 65,000 H-1B workers are a drop in the bucket, and this overhaul won't change that number.

It is a good thing though to block the widespread abuse of this visa by a handful of large Indian consulting shops, who submit mass visa applications each year and thus receive a disproportionate share of the visa in the lottery, keeping many better qualified candidates out.

What's the point of studying hard and becoming a good engineer if the job will be filled by a low paying foreign worker.

It would be a good thing to finally raise the minimum compensation requirements to a level of what a qualified IT worker can earn in places like Silicon Valley ($120k updwards), since the current minimum ($60k) is a joke. But from what I understand this overhaul doesn't do that.

 

[steve knight]

No, because this thing Trump did doesn't actually change anything - it isn't a new rule - and thus there is nothing to challenge in a court. It's just a sternly-worded memo instructing the relevant agencies to become tougher in enforcing existing rules.

If you were hoping for some actual changes to the H1B program, this isn't it. Like most of president Trump's actions so far, this is all bark and no bite (unfortunately).

so trump is getting thanks by his fanatic followers here for nothing as usual? say it isn't so please don't let trump let them down again.

 

[jkcerda]

so trump is getting thanks by his fanatic followers here for nothing as usual? say it isn't so please don't let trump let them down again.

As pointed out previous clowns have done NOTHING at all. Hell some like oclueless were busy passing TPP

 

[andiwm2003]

I came to this country on a L1 visa. That is for foreign companies that open a new site in the USA or for companies that want to transfer workers between their international sites and the US. If I recall correctly (it was 15 years ago) we were allowed 4 L1 visas for 60 new jobs created in the US (paid by the parent company). That was a ridiculously low number if you consider that we were building a entirely new biotech research site with about $50 Mio. investment. We struggled with technology transfer because of this.
I wonder how it could be that the tech industry can get so easily so many H1 visas when there were so strict limitations on intra company transfers despite the huge investment and newly created jobs. This visa system is messed up all around.

 

[steve knight]

As pointed out previous clowns have done NOTHING at all. Hell some like oclueless were busy passing TPP

trump did nothing either while trump abuses it himself. so trump would not want to stop his weekly vacation spot to be out of underpaid cooks and maids.
but yes something real needs to be done about it but it lookalike trump is just blowing his own horn while doing what he wants.

 

[ibookg409]

trump did nothing either while trump abuses it himself. so trump would not want to stop his weekly vacation spot to be out of underpaid cooks and maids.
but yes something real needs to be done about it but it lookalike trump is just blowing his own horn while doing what he wants.

I feel like I am in "French 101" again when I read your posts. I have to translate this "foreign language" and conjugate everything to understand the meaning.

 

[jkcerda]

trump did nothing either while trump abuses it himself. so trump would not want to stop his weekly vacation spot to be out of underpaid cooks and maids.
but yes something real needs to be done about it but it lookalike trump is just blowing his own horn while doing what he wants.

Someone might have the patience to explain to you that he was a business man and not a politician.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Very Bad for the Tech Industry. Most of the Best Talent is overseas, They are way more hungry than these lazy american millennials that just want high pay for just showing up.

You can look at hollywood, most of the actors are British and Australian, Most American Actors don't want to put in any work

You can still import talent from overseas. What you can't do is to import anyone you wish just to lower (that is, manipulate) labor cost all while pointing a gun to the H1 visa holder.
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I feel like I am in "French 101" again when I read your posts. I have to translate this "foreign language" and conjugate everything to understand the meaning.

You win the award for creepiest avatar on MR

 

[Cineplex]

Hopefully this means less visas from India. These are the most damaging. I know at least 20 people that have lost their jobs to this. It's such a bunch of BS. Chase bank is the worst. They pay them all $90k with no benefits to write code all day. I know plenty of folks that would do that for the same cost (less salary with benefits to even it out). It's crazy especially knowing most of the credentials are bogus. Most companies train them when they get here. Such a load of crap!

 

[douglasf13]

Very Bad for the Tech Industry. Most of the Best Talent is overseas, They are way more hungry than these lazy american millennials that just want high pay for just showing up.

You can look at hollywood, most of the actors are British and Australian, Most American Actors don't want to put in any work

Wait, what?? Have you even been to Hollywood? As someone who owns a business in TV in Hollywood, I can assure you that American actors work pretty hard in a pretty thankless industry (for most.)

 

[ibookg409]

You can still import talent from overseas. What you can't do is to import anyone you wish just to lower (that is, manipulate) labor cost all while pointing a gun to the H1 visa holder.
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You win the award for creepiest avatar on MR

Thanks. I'm trying to change my avatar daily.

 

[steve knight]

Someone might have the patience to explain to you that he was a business man and not a politician.

so he is exempt from following his own political statements he says Americans should follow?
this is all just a big trump fart that he does not even have to smell himself. I love how much he care about americas jobs while not caring when it comes to him he is a amazing president.
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I feel like I am in "French 101" again when I read your posts. I have to translate this "foreign language" and conjugate everything to understand the meaning.

well no free rides for you.

 

[ibookg409]

Hopefully this means less visas from India. These are the most damaging. I know at least 20 people that have lost their jobs to this. It's such a bunch of BS. Chase bank is the worst. They pay them all $90k with no benefits to write code all day. I know plenty of folks that would do that for the same cost (less salary with benefits to even it out). It's crazy especially knowing most of the credentials are bogus. Most companies train them when they get here. Such a load of crap!

I've said it before, and I'll say it now. NO MORE IMMIGRATION FOR 10 YEARS. Shut it down. Lets catch our breath. Let's through out those who don't belong here and produce NOTHING for the country.
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so he is exempt from following his own political statements he says Americans should follow?
this is all just a big trump fart that he does not even have to smell himself. I love how much he care about americas jobs while not caring when it comes to him he is a amazing president.
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well no free rides for you.

Do you have any evidence at all that he uses illegals in his establishments? ANY AT ALL?

 

[theBB]

Thank you Trump administration. H1b is the main reason why American kids don't want to get into stem program. What's the point of studying hard and becoming a good engineer if the job will be filled by a low paying foreign worker.

Don't believe every rant on the net. In many tech fields, if you have an MS degree and you're good at what you do, the pay is quite high.

For those who think US born engineers would be better off if the US didn't bring in any foreign workers. If an engineer doesn't have the skill set to compete against the foreign engineer now, do you think he/she would fare any better if that same foreign engineer was forced to leave and start working at even lower salaries?

 

[tunerX]

Hopefully this will fix the abuse at Disney.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/...t-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html?_r=0

 

[ibookg409]

well no free rides for you.

I don't think white males get free rides anywhere in the USA now. I'm used to it.

 

[jkcerda]

so he is exempt from following his own political statements he says Americans should follow?
this is all just a big trump fart that he does not even have to smell himself. I love how much he care about americas jobs while not caring when it comes to him he is a amazing president.
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well no free rides for you.

Deflection noted........

 

[ibookg409]

Don't believe every rant on the net. In many tech fields, if you have an MS degree and you're good at what you do, the pay is quite high.

For those who think US born engineers would be better off if the US didn't bring in any foreign workers. If an engineer doesn't have the skill set to compete against the foreign engineer now, do you think he/she would fare any better if that same foreign engineer was forced to leave and start working at even lower salaries?

That is excellent advice. I'll start by not believing this rant.

 

[nia820]

Thank you Trump administration. H1b is the main reason why American kids don't want to get into stem program. What's the point of studying hard and becoming a good engineer if the job will be filled by a low paying foreign worker. While stopping immigration is a bad thing, a check on what type of jobs are getting taken away by foreign workers is important. At this point, an American citizen has no hope to grow up and make a decent living in any possible way. The low paying jobs are taken over by illegal immigrants. The mid-high paying jobs are taken over by H1b workers. What else is left??? I am glad there is going to be a regulation on who is coming in and why.

American parents are the reason why children don't want to get into STEM programs. Not foreigners. Asian parents push their children towards the sciences and medicines. It is instilled from a young age that getting a job in STEM areas guarantees a decent income and living.

American parents generally do not instill such things in their children. Majority of children don't even go to the college. Asian countries have higher undergraduate and graduate graduation rates then we do.

Low pay isn't the main reason why tech companies higher forgein workers. It's easier to find qualified applicants overseas . Tech companies started looking abroad for talent because the talent is dry here.

Degree affordability is also a factor. University is a whole lot cheaper in Asia. University fees generally doesn't come into play. Whereas in America it does. I have two friends who dropped out of engineering programs because they just couldn't afford it and didn't want to wind up in a bunch of debt.

 

[steve knight]

Deflection noted........

what deflection. this does nothing to make it better but you are praising trump like he brought jesus back. he breaks this rule all the time with his own businesses.
solet me know what trump did and what it will really do to stop the abuse.

 

[Rigby]

I came to this country on a L1 visa. That is for foreign companies that open a new site in the USA or for companies that want to transfer workers between their international sites and the US. If I recall correctly (it was 15 years ago) we were allowed 4 L1 visas for 60 new jobs created in the US (paid by the parent company). That was a ridiculously low number if you consider that we were building a entirely new biotech research site with about $50 Mio. investment. We struggled with technology transfer because of this.
I wonder how it could be that the tech industry can get so easily so many H1 visas when there were so strict limitations on intra company transfers despite the huge investment and newly created jobs. This visa system is messed up all around.

There is no quota or cap on the L-1 (and there wasn't one 15 years ago either).

 

[ibookg409]

what deflection. this does nothing to make it better but you are praising trump like he brought jesus back. he breaks this rule all the time with his own businesses.
solet me know what trump did and what it will really do to stop the abuse.

SOURCE? Please give me a source for this. Please back something up for ONCE with a fact or a link or something that is REAL. PLEASE!!!!

 

[steve knight]

SOURCE? Please give me a source for this. Please back something up for ONCE with a fact or a link or something that is REAL. PLEASE!!!!

what that trump hires foreign cooks and maids and such?

 

[ibookg409]

what that trump hires foreign cooks and maids and such?

YUP!

 

[jkcerda]

what deflection. this does nothing to make it better but you are praising trump like he brought jesus back. he breaks this rule all the time with his own businesses.
solet me know what trump did and what it will really do to stop the abuse.

Link to him breaking the rule