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Grumpy Tim

What a disgrace. (Trump)

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Incorrect. DEI is about white hatred. If you believe that someone should be hired over someone else because their skin color is preferable, you're a racist and you're just like the racist white southerners from the 1960s. That is what DEI is, favoring people based on their skin color and other traits. It's shocking how you can write what you did and have no self-reflection.

Just to make it clear: judging someone based on their race is wrong and illegal. So, please stop doing it.
Diversity equity and inclusion isnt that, and you should stop watching fox news and the like. It’s the correct formal terminology for everything from the ADA, to hiring practices for veterans, to aid in underprivileged areas, to etc. hiring practices involving what’s currently called DEI arent about selecting someone unqualified over someone qualified, it’s about a combination of outreach to groups that often wont even apply for jobs they are qualified for, removing bias in hiring, and, when there are two or more equally qualified candidates selecting someone that can increase the diversity of viewpoints on the team

You’ve been lied to about this because the hard right has an explicitly stated goal of destroying a lot of the things that help underprivileged groups have equal opportunities and instead want to shovel that money to the wealthy and/or just, honestly, be plain racist and sexist

You’re seeing that in the military right now in easy view. Things like removing CQ Brown and Farretti, and instead installing people who are so unqualified (but male and white) that they need waivers for legal requirements for the job.

You’re seeing it in Hegseth adding *back* headshots at military promotion boards. Headshots havent been included for many years to avoid bias in promotion consideration, the board literally had no idea what race the candidate was… until now. The “DEI” version was more fair, to everyone.

You are being lied to to get you angry at the wrong people
 
The issue for me is with the dei stuff they don’t hire the best person for the job as they want to hire based on sexuality and race
Where that’s true — and I have no doubt that it has happened on occasion — that is a problem (and, incidentally, was already illegal). But that’s not what DEI is about. If correctly applied, it is concerned with such things as recruiting (i.e., making sure recruiting efforts are seen by those most talented), making sure hiring practices overall are non-discriminatory, making sure diverse candidates feel welcome, etc.

I’ve seen this play out in extremely positive ways — I’m very familiar with one particular effort made by a company to provide womens’ roundtable discussions and meetings in a field traditionally dominated by men. Those discussions and meetings yielded huge rewards in terms of talent acquisition. That’s DEI working as intended.

Can DEI be abused? Of course, and this also is sadly not uncommon. But you don’t throw it out across the the board because of this, and you don’t tell private businesses they can’t use it. The better solution is to identify and fix actual problems — not to hamstring something that might be working with ideaology.
 
Where that’s true — and I have no doubt that it has happened on occasion — that is a problem (and, incidentally, was already illegal). But that’s not what DEI is about. If correctly applied, it is concerned with such things as recruiting (i.e., making sure recruiting efforts are seen by those most talented), making sure hiring practices overall are non-discriminatory, making sure diverse candidates feel welcome, etc.

I’ve seen this play out in extremely positive ways — I’m very familiar with one particular effort made by a company to provide womens’ roundtable discussions and meetings in a field traditionally dominated by men. Those discussions and meetings yielded huge rewards in terms of talent acquisition. That’s DEI working as intended.

Can DEI be abused? Of course, and this also is sadly not uncommon. But you don’t throw it out across the the board because of this, and you don’t tell private businesses they can’t use it. The better solution is to identify and fix actual problems — not to hamstring something that might be working with ideaology.

Beautifully articulated 👆

Discarding it all completely is a real mistake
 
Why is the government telling private corporations how to handle their internal affairs? Isn't the Republican Party all about reducing and limiting the role of government?
The republics party hasn’t been about that in the Trump Era. Now its all about going against whatever the left is for everything else be damned.
 
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So you’re happy with the multitude of issues Apple currently has both software and hardware wise. Good to note. How much value a company has at the moment is meaningless. Ask BlackBerry how quickly that can all disappear.
I'm very happy with my Apple products, despite the occasional annoyance. And so is the market. But keep trying to argue that Apple = Blackberry :)
 
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Just a few numbers from the stock market yesterday. The Magnificent 7 Index slid 3.4%, led by Tesla, which was down 37%. Followed by Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, etc. Apple and Nvidia were the only ones up by 2%. No correlation whatsoever, of course, but does it appear an immediate policy change is needed?
 
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Where that’s true — and I have no doubt that it has happened on occasion — that is a problem (and, incidentally, was already illegal). But that’s not what DEI is about. If correctly applied, it is concerned with such things as recruiting (i.e., making sure recruiting efforts are seen by those most talented), making sure hiring practices overall are non-discriminatory, making sure diverse candidates feel welcome, etc.

I’ve seen this play out in extremely positive ways — I’m very familiar with one particular effort made by a company to provide womens’ roundtable discussions and meetings in a field traditionally dominated by men. Those discussions and meetings yielded huge rewards in terms of talent acquisition. That’s DEI working as intended.

Can DEI be abused? Of course, and this also is sadly not uncommon. But you don’t throw it out across the the board because of this, and you don’t tell private businesses they can’t use it. The better solution is to identify and fix actual problems — not to hamstring something that might be working with ideaology.
Imagine believing that the abuse of DEI is the exception and not the rule haha.

Any time you use skin color or other immutable traits as your filters for hiring, you are engaging in illegals and immoral activity.

It’s so funny. When people thought the laws were intended to stop evil white men from discriminating against others, the6 loved the laws. Then, when organizations started being biased against white men and having category quotas, the6 loved laws didn’t matter, you were allowed to use protected categories as hiring standards.

Just one problem….its literally illegal. People let it go on for a while because no one wanted to rock the boat, but it’s gonna get confirmed by the Supreme Court that it’s illegal, and these clamp it’s are gonna get maimed. And I’m here for it. They deserve it.

EDIT: imagine “disagreeing” with the literal law of the land hahaha sorry folks, discrimination is illegal, even if you want to do it against white men. So pathetic.
 
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Even better, let’s not have a solely government controlled school system (the government SUCKS at running things, as we’ve seen) and let’s stop being racist against people. I think that seems fair. If you actually believe that people’s current day struggles can legitimately be connected to slavery and civil rights struggles (and that’s just for black Americans, it’s amazing how anyone who comes to the US suddenly deems themselves the inheritors of the legacy of slaves…INSANE), then you are not paying attention.
You dont think history affects present day? Because there’s literally whole fields of science chock full of peer review research showing how absolutely wrong you are, common sense aside.
 
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Even better, let’s not have a solely government controlled school system (the government SUCKS at running things, as we’ve seen) and let’s stop being racist against people. I think that seems fair. If you actually believe that people’s current day struggles can legitimately be connected to slavery and civil rights struggles (and that’s just for black Americans, it’s amazing how anyone who comes to the US suddenly deems themselves the inheritors of the legacy of slaves…INSANE), then you are not paying attention.

I've lived in large cities with people from all around the world I see the same exact thing over and over again: Immigrants from Asia, Africa and Latin America struggle for the first generation running corner stores, driving taxis (now Uber) and other labor-intensive jobs so their children can have a better life.

Go to any hospital and look at the names of the nurses and doctors and you'll notice that a lot of them are from Nigeria. If this country is so racist, how do these people go from being taxi drivers as immigrants to their children holding professional careers? African overcome tremendous hardships in their lives to become successful in this country.

Blaming people and denying the kid in the YouTube video opportunities because he worked harder [ instead of playing sports ] isn't the solution.
 
It’s projection and hypocrisy, all the way down the line

All this outrage about “DEI”, just so they can install some of the most incompetent and unqualified people possible all across the government… so long as they’re loyal to Trump
Right, as if—for example—radio and TV hosts are any more qualified to run the Defense department or FBI thank any so-called “DEI hire”…laughable.
 
Plese google "Which company in the US has the largest market cap today." Report your findings. Then square that with your opinion that Apple is not innovative and is making poor business choices in hiring. I'll wait.
It was Invidia a month ago 🤣, market cap means nothing, it's just people gambling on shares!
The more telling statistic, is that the iPhone sales were down by 5% last quarter OF 2024, which is purely down to the lack of innovation and poor implementation (Camera button, Ultra Wide Camera & IOS software). We're still getting flares, despite the magic coatings in both the 15 Pro & 16 Pro, I could go on..........
The iPHONE 16e is a joke for the money and will be a failure!
Not hiring the best, doesn't show straight away, it takes a few years and it has begun with iPhone 16 & AI.
Personally I only care about having the best Apple products possible and this products being market leaders, however we're not getting that the last two years, the reasons are very clear, to those of us that deal with facts and reality.
 
You dont think history affects present day? Because there’s literally whole fields of science chock full of peer review research showing how absolutely wrong you are, common sense aside.
Oh dear lord, yes….loads of “peer review research”…I’m sure. Just like the research from tobacco companies saying tobacco was great. Just like like people who signed off on the Tuskegee experiments. If you belief that “experts” signing off is some sort of magic wand, you dont deserve to be taken seriously.

The past leads to the present, but people in the present are not shackled by the past. Your ideology is one of resentment and failure. The most evil thing that happens in American society is when left wing politicians tell young black children that everyone in the country hates them and is against them. It’s a lie, and it’s child abuse. For political purposes, powerful people try to undermine the potential of beautiful young Americans. And folks hide behind “peer review research” to validate their political actions.

There’s a lot of opportunity in this country, and it’s there for the taking. Stop hyperbolizing when it comes to race problems and start lifting people up.
 
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I've lived in large cities with people from all around the world I see the same exact thing over and over again: Immigrants from Asia, Africa and Latin America struggle for the first generation running corner stores, driving taxis (now Uber) and other labor-intensive jobs so their children can have a better life.

Go to any hospital and look at the names of the nurses and doctors and you'll notice that a lot of them are from Nigeria. If this country is so racist, how do these people go from being taxi drivers as immigrants to their children holding professional careers? African overcome tremendous hardships in their lives to become successful in this country.

Blaming people and denying the kid in the YouTube video opportunities because he worked harder [ instead of playing sports ] isn't the solution.
I have volunteered as EMS for more than a decade, I have lost count of how many people (and it’s *always* people so white I’m surprised they dont bleed mayonaise) requesting not going to a specific hospital because of “the black doctors”, “the Jews”, “the Indians”, etc
 
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