How So? I'm a power user that gets about 18 hours a day usage. I sleep more than 6 hours a day. More battery power won't effect my usage at all.
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TSMC's A9 Chip Outperforming Samsung's in Early iPhone 6s Battery Benchmarks
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How So? I'm a power user that gets about 18 hours a day usage. I sleep more than 6 hours a day. More battery power won't effect my usage at all.
We know Apple buys chips form 2 different providers, but there could be more providers for batteries too.
In my opinion, comparing battery life without considering if there are different brand of batteries is futile.
In my opinion, comparing battery life without considering if there are different brand of batteries is futile.
Careful, common sense doesn't go over well here. One phone out of 20 million got worse battery life.
I'd like to throw a wrench into this hogwash of a 'test.' I turned down my brightness lower than I normally run the screen (around 40%) and wanted to see how long the iphone 6s plus would last with normal usage with no gaming. My idea was to simulate people who don't play games on the phone. Personally, I don't have a lot of extra time to play games on my phone and would like to know how long I can actually go if I really need to stretch my battery. (This is no where near scientific but I wanted to show how well the Samsung performs.)
I unplugged my phone on Thursday night, I don't remember the exact time. Somewhere around 10PM. I managed 70 hours and 4 minutes of standby with 9 hours and 26 minutes of usage. I plugged it in at 1% battery on Sunday night around 9PM! I activated the low power mode at 20% when it prompted me. I checked today and after reading this thread you would think I have the TSMC chip. Nope, I'm running the Samsung. I have a screen shot of this if anyone needs to see it. I can also confirm that I have N66AP verified with the free Lirum app. I can also provide a screenshot of this if necessary.
I just wanted to comment on this because I believe that the Samsung might be better at standby and every day use. Its a smaller die size and based on Intel's die shrinks (and undeniable results) this makes sense. I can't wait to see these tests done with a large chunk of phones rather than 1 or 2.
I unplugged my phone on Thursday night, I don't remember the exact time. Somewhere around 10PM. I managed 70 hours and 4 minutes of standby with 9 hours and 26 minutes of usage. I plugged it in at 1% battery on Sunday night around 9PM! I activated the low power mode at 20% when it prompted me. I checked today and after reading this thread you would think I have the TSMC chip. Nope, I'm running the Samsung. I have a screen shot of this if anyone needs to see it. I can also confirm that I have N66AP verified with the free Lirum app. I can also provide a screenshot of this if necessary.
I just wanted to comment on this because I believe that the Samsung might be better at standby and every day use. Its a smaller die size and based on Intel's die shrinks (and undeniable results) this makes sense. I can't wait to see these tests done with a large chunk of phones rather than 1 or 2.
Don't install anything outside of the App Store.
Also, this very article suggested an app to check that. Read the article.
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I have no idea which chip I have.
This should be relatively easy for a more trustworthy source to test. Unless and until that happens, this could be hysteria over nothing.
This is a safe app to use:
Lirum Device Info Lite - System Monitor by Rogerio Hirooka
https://appsto.re/us/-AarJ.i
I have no idea which chip I have.
This should be relatively easy for a more trustworthy source to test. Unless and until that happens, this could be hysteria over nothing.
This is a safe app to use:
Lirum Device Info Lite - System Monitor by Rogerio Hirooka
https://appsto.re/us/-AarJ.i
Not challenging your observation but you also only tested one phone in one particular day. Nothing more scientific than the original post or Geekbench's data of 22 phones.
Stolen Tech? Please. Share your source.
"Mix Process?" The 14nm FinFET SoC APL0898 is just that. The APL1022 TSMC 16nm is a stacked FinFET, the 0898 a Die-Shrink. The 0898 should be more efficient and cooler. This however does not seem to be the case. So, I find it interesting. Next time don't hold back on your TSMC bias.
I read the article and I realize there are ways to find out. However, I'm not going to bother to figure which chip I have unless this goes beyond random people doing questionable tests under questionable conditions.
I'm not necessarily saying its not true--just very suspicious. The battery life on my iPhone is great, so it doesn't really matter which I have.
This was exactly my point. I even said, "(This is no where near scientific but I wanted to show how well the Samsung performs.)" This was just a single point of data like we have been getting otherwise.
I think this issue will be overblown as usual and until a comprehensive test is done by guys like Anandtech there will be no end to the debate. Personally I couldn't care less but it's quite entertaining to witness this drama
. Anyway, MacRumors has got a lot of page views so congratulations.What are the chances that Samsung designed its version of the chip to *intentionally* consume battery power more quickly? After all, Samsung has reasons to want its own Android phones to have better battery life than Apple's phones.
Something seems fishy!
Mark
Something seems fishy!
Mark
I know Apple will be glad for Friday to come and go, because all those that purchased these phones on launch day, will no longer be eligible to return them for reasons such as this.
Stolen Tech? Please. Share your source.
Next time don't hold back on your TSMC bias.
I think he was referring to these:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/08/26/samsung-stole-processor-secrets-from-tsmc-with-insider-help/
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/08/26/samsung-stole-trade-secrets-from-tsmc/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Court-rules-that-Samsung-stole-trade-secrets-from-TSMC_id73055
I have the TSMC (N66mAP) 6s Plus!... YES!!! So did I win anything?
Kallum.
Kallum.
I have the TSMC (N66mAP) 6s Plus!... YES!!! So did I win anything?
Kallum.
You win a free trip to your nearest Apple store, where you will be greeted with grey shirt Apple employees! You'll get a pat on the back and a job well done. Congrats! LOL
when I first got my 6+ last year, the battery was sooooo good. I could go for a day and a half. Now with the 6S+, I have to charge once a day.
CongratulationsI have the TSMC (N66mAP) 6s Plus!... YES!!! So did I win anything?
Kallum.
You just won extra battery life!
(I don't really have anything more to say, but I'm merely responding to this post so you don't think caps lock is intimidating.)
Brilliant!Congratulations
Yes, I have been wanting to go back to the Apple store for a while now... I hope when I go, they treat me as you posted.
K.
I don't really think that the battery alone can contribute to such a big difference. If that is the case, it's a serious quality control issue. According to a Tweet by John Poole, the founder of Primate Labs / Geekbench, the distribution of battery test results of 22 iPhone 6s is not normal:
You can show 1000 times that 1000 different iPhone batteries produce battery outputs (mAh, etc) that are within 99.999% of each other, and whilst that strongly suggests that different batteries used in these two devices is not the source of the observed variable, it doesn't eliminate that possibility, as there is no evidence to indicate that the specific batteries used in these tests are identical in their performance. As such it means there are two variables at play, one being the battery and the other being the A9 chip.
I don't think it would be the battery alone, and I suspect there probably is a difference in the performance between the chips. I'm just saying that from a scientific standpoint you cannot make a conclusion whilst there are two variables at involved. Each battery is supposed to have the same spec's, but that doesn't mean each battery has the same real world performance. As such it needs to be removed as a variable before any conclusion can be reached. That's scientific method.
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Interesting. I remember reading before launch that even with the smaller battery, the 6S would have the same battery life as the 6. Now that I've had mine for a week, I've noticed that the battery life is not as good as my 6. I'd like to check with that app. what processor I have, but know I will just end up disappointed at what I find out, especially since you can't just go to Apple and request one with the TSMC chip.
