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I noticed right away that my 6s has lower battery life when I got it and now I've just confirmed I have the Samsung chip. Damn...
If you noticed right away when you got it then you are talking nonsense.
 
In the Geekbench test, rate of work done may not be constant
However, the constant should be work done, i.e. A fixed task. Eg playing one round of a movie.

This is because if the Samsung is running faster than the TSMC, then in the same time it may actually have done more work, hence more energy used.

Analogy:
Car A is driven at 50km/h
Car B is driven at 100km/h

Assuming equivalent efficiency,
Car A would use up its fuel twice as fast as Car B.
However if you consider fuel used for the same 100km travelled, then both cars would have the same fuel usage.

Am I right?

Herein lies the problem. Both chips are suppose perform within specification in terms of raw performance, power, reliability. The difference should be within few percent. So far many users have repeated the performance and battery test and showing a disconcerting trend.

Geekbench shows Samsung A9 is fast by few point (less than 1-2%), but largely statistically insignificant if you run it 1000 times. 1-2% faster should not translate into 2 hours additional battery drain.

Antutu shows TSMC A9 consistently faster for some reason. The battery drain difference remains approximate 2 hours in a burn test.
 
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The Samsung chip probably had a built-in benchmark booster that gave it poor battery life on GeekBench :p

Lol, but it seems not only does TSMC one has better battery life, it performs better, and runs cooler. I'm very interested in how this chip gate is going to pan out.
 
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Samsung chip. Battery seems fine to me brah.

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Strike a nerve? sorry

My 6+ battery would last maybe 10 hours when I am at work with minimal usage.
My TSMC 6S+ last a bit longer.
At Home I can easily go 12 hours with heavy use and still have 10 to 20%

If anyone is listening to these "experts" then the joke is on them.
Usage varies. If there is a 3% real world difference whether it would be in speed, heat, battery or whatever else I would be shocked. Sure there wil be a difference in carrier based on location.

Whether you have a Samsung or SMC enjoy it. I wouldn't be worrying. If there is that much concern about battery life pick up a mophie battery pack. The mophie battery pack for the 6+ works with the 6S+, I posted a video in another thread.
 
Interesting report. So it could be fixed with a some software tweaking on Apple's part?

Seems possible.. And Apple just released statement suggesting a difference - of 2-3%. Of course they are different chips, and software must be optimized partly for battery parity.
 
For me home>model: empty and grey circle. Maybe because it didn't allow it originally to access my photos I think? I have redownloaded it a few times but the request has not popped back up and nothing in my privacy settings.

Hmm yes the big grey circle should be accompanied by right side data lines.. Last line would show model
 
This is unreal. Are you claiming they did not redesign the antenna for the 4S, or as you say just refined? What is the difference in your eyes? Going to 2 antennas sure sounds like a redesign to me. Do you not remember how big of a deal they made about this when they introduced the 4S?

No one outside the forums cared? So there wasn't a class action lawsuit in which Apple settled on this?
Apple sold something like 60 millions iPhone 4 worldwide, to happy customers.
Did Apple improve its antenna design in the 4S ? Sure.
That doesn't mean the iPhone 4 has a "antennagate".
Okay, I'm out. MacRumors has gotten worse and worse over the last few years, and having to read a story about this issue once or more per day is the last straw.

I long for the days when Apple news was actually interesting instead of focused on stock prices, acquisitions, and the newest minor nitpicky flaw that someone found with the newest device, and how everyone in the world must immediately flood Apple stores with stupid requests to exchange for a "perfect" device.

See ya.
sad but true ...
 
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It matters greatly.

"Liang's lawyer, Wellington Ku said restricting his client from working at a rival company would generate controversy as his non-compete agreement had already expired."

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/38560-tsmc-wins-a-secrecy-battle-against-samsung

He quit and signed a two year non-compete agreement in 2009 and went to work at the university in 2011.

You claim that "there seem to clearly have been transfer of proprietary information." but you can't even tell us what was allegedly transferred.
If TSMC had the goods to sue Samsung they would have. But they haven't.


The university in question is sponsored by Samsung for training engineers working for Samung fabs. See the problem here???
 
thanks, easy to compile and load

have s8000 samsung a9

Cool. Yeah, I was originally just curious about the implementation (DT == Geek), but it turned out to be a handy little code package.

My 6S Plus is a TSMC ... FWIW. I'd be happy either way I suspect, the phone easily goes way beyond a day of typical use for me.
 
Are any of you with the Samsung chip experiencing what you would consider good battery life?
I get get battery life and fast geek bench scores. My 6s last all day with heavy usage. I also don't experience over heat like some have reported. I can also leave my phone overnight and it doesn't loose a bit of charge. And I have the Samsung Chip. Now I remember why I only come to this site once a year. It's because of the whining and MacRumors bogus headlines that have made this site go down hill.
 
More Samsung users need to suck it up like you're doing. I commend you good sir.
And some folks need to get a life besides worrying about what chip there phone has. If someone was reading this topic they would think the end of the world was just around the corner because the intelligence level of society has gone to hell.
 
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Apple Says Battery Performance Of New iPhones’ A9 Chips Vary Only 2-3%

they may be right in real world usage but if i want to sit there for 5 hours straight and play a graphical intensive game then why should one phone last 2hours less than another :s
 
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Herein lies the problem. Both chips are suppose perform within specification in terms of raw performance, power, reliability. The difference should be within few percent. So far many users have repeated the performance and battery test and showing a disconcerting trend.

Geekbench shows Samsung A9 is fast by few point (less than 1-2%), but largely statistically insignificant if you run it 1000 times. 1-2% faster should not translate into 2 hours additional battery drain.

Antutu shows TSMC A9 consistently faster for some reason. The battery drain difference remains approximate 2 hours in a burn test.

So the battery life is a trend and anyone who said their 6+ bent was a liar?
 
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So could Apple fix this supposed issue in an update?

they obviously dont care so why would they fix it like they said people dont use their phone like that test where they ran the battery down in a heavy test, in the real world test the difference is 2-3% so im afraid they couldnt care less end of ...
 
Here ya go. Samsung director responsible for 14nm, former TSMC employee working on 15nm, convicted of trade-secret and internal plan theft which was found to directly benefit Samsung's 14nm process.

Next step is probably international courts.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...secrets-to-samsung-taiwan-supreme-court-says/


So a TSMC Engineer sold trade secrets to Samsung? OK, yes. However, that is not Samsung hacking into TSMC's Servers. More over none of the "sold trade secrets" are in the 14nm FinFET SoC APL0898 fabbed by Samsung. Each chip uses a different transistor implementation. TSMC uses Stacked FinFET, Samsung a Die-Shrink.

However, your point is taken. :apple:
 
Strike a nerve? sorry

My 6+ battery would last maybe 10 hours when I am at work with minimal usage.
My TSMC 6S+ last a bit longer.
At Home I can easily go 12 hours with heavy use and still have 10 to 20%

If anyone is listening to these "experts" then the joke is on them.
Usage varies. If there is a 3% real world difference whether it would be in speed, heat, battery or whatever else I would be shocked. Sure there wil be a difference in carrier based on location.

Whether you have a Samsung or SMC enjoy it. I wouldn't be worrying. If there is that much concern about battery life pick up a mophie battery pack. The mophie battery pack for the 6+ works with the 6S+, I posted a video in another thread.

Your comment was misleading so I was just replying in case anyone is actually reading these posts for information rather than to circlejerk eachother.
 
Isn't the 6s+ quoted as having the same battery life as 6+? When/where was it stated that the 6s+ should last 20% longer than 6+? Don't recall any articles about that.

my link got removed...but google "iphone 6+ versus 6S+ battery life"
 
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