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The iPad 3 is desirable because it does have an over-engineered Lightning connector. Buy a bunch of cheap cables to keep around. Knock yourself out.

Lightning Connectors are the new Thunderbolt. Nice in theory, but rather useless and expensive in reality.
 
Nothing to do with wanting the "latest and greatest", I own a 4S I am 4 months into contract with and a 2009 iMac. I simply don't like paying premium price for a new product to see it replaced within six years on the market. It simply is not value for money.

The iPad has always been value for the money. For years most other tablet manufactures cannot beat Apples price on such a high quality product. They either sell them at or bellow cost and make their money through services ( Like Amazons Kindle fire series ) They even tried to sneak past ads on them to subsidize the cost of the tablet.

While you see it as a premium price, I see it as priced below what others are charging for the same quality/parts.
 
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Highly unlikely they will refresh the iPad until Spring and the iPad 4

I would typically agree with his sentiment, but with the M$ $urface being released and holidays around the corner and the iPad mini being released, there needs to be a clear update on the flagship iPad to bolster it's dominance in the tablet field.
 
Can someone please explain why there are 12 SKU?

12 colors for the new iPad socks :D

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The iPad 3 is desirable because it does have an over-engineered Lightning connector. Buy a bunch of cheap cables to keep around. Knock yourself out.

Lightning Connectors are the new Thunderbolt. Nice in theory, but rather useless and expensive in reality.

No, they are MUCH worse than TB, which is at least extremely fast and versatile.

Lightning has NO speed difference from the original dock connector; its only advantage is to allow plugging from both sides...nothing else.
 
The iPad has always been value for the money. For years most other tablet manufactures cannot beat Apples price on such a high quality product. They either sell them at or bellow cost and make their money through services ( Like Amazons Kindle fire series ) They even tried to sneak past ads on them to subsidize the cost of the tablet.

While you see it as a premium price, I see it as priced below what others are charging for the same quality/parts.

What difference does it make if the other companies sell them below cost? And Apple doesn't make money through the App Store? Does the lack of ads lower the quality in any way?
 
come on folks, there is nothing to see here. to those with an iPad 3 there are no worries, are you going to dump your device to get one with a new connector? silly. i highly doubt there will be room for production of A6 when so many of them are going in IPhone 5's now. this is more likely in the spring cycle, or perhaps even later in FY13. whats likely to happen here is the UK 4G fix and connector, thats all. it really is comical now with the 'i must have the latest and greatest'.
 
Nothing to do with wanting the "latest and greatest", I own a 4S I am 4 months into contract with and a 2009 iMac. I simply don't like paying premium price for a new product to see it replaced within six years on the market. It simply is not value for money.

Does your current model fulfill all your needs? Probably. Will the newer iPad have features that you must have right now? Doubtful. But let me guess, you will pay premium price again because your current model is "out dated". And six months from now you will be posting the same complaints again when a newer model is released. Talk about the ultimate slave to consumerism.
 
What difference does it make if the other companies sell them below cost? And Apple doesn't make money through the App Store? Does the lack of ads lower the quality in any way?

Apple makes very little money on content compared to its hardware sales. To me, content mostly benefits the consumer, not Apple. But obviously without it, there would be no reason to buy the iPad, so its still really important.

If your getting a free product or service, or even at a reduced price, then advertising would be ok. Most people don't pay to put ad's on their devices, they usually pay to remove ad's.
 
If they release a new iPad the have to change the name or they will get a lot people pissed and they will get a lot of BBB complaints starting with mine.. :D

The BBB will somberly take your complaint, and pat you on the back. After you leave, they'll laugh at you.
 
I have an iPhone 5 and just love the lightning connector.

I no longer have to turn on a bright screen at night so I can see what the orientation is to plug it into my bedside charge cable.

What is important to me, for my next iPad upgrade is having the same connector. Why is it that a bunch of people believe my options should be limited because they bought an iPad 6 months ago?
 
I actually hope they do update the ipad 3 with a better cpu. If you follow the android market there is more then a few tablets smoking the current apple ipad 3 cpu. its needed to stay competitive and just plain needed in general.
 
I have an iPhone 5 and just love the lightning connector.

I no longer have to turn on a bright screen at night so I can see what the orientation is to plug it into my bedside charge cable.

What is important to me, for my next iPad upgrade is having the same connector. Why is it that a bunch of people believe my options should be limited because they bought an iPad 6 months ago?


How are your options being limited ?
 
Apple makes very little money on content compared to its hardware sales. To me, content mostly benefits the consumer, not Apple. But obviously without it, there would be no reason to buy the iPad, so its still really important.

If your getting a free product or service, or even at a reduced price, then advertising would be ok. Most people don't pay to put ad's on their devices, they usually pay to remove ad's.

Your opinion - where are the stats? What percentage of people pay to remove the ads. How many ad-free kindles were bought vs no-ad kindles?

Everyone I know that has an "ad" based kindle has stated that they don't even notice the ads most of the time because they don't appear when the device is actually being used - and in some cases - the ads have provided discounts on products they wanted which paid for their kindle a few times over.

Different business models. Both seem to be working for their respective companies. You can argue which is more profitable or who has more market share. That doesn't diminish the fact that both models work - and well.

Personally - I don't give 2 figs whether/how much Apple, Amazon, Google, etc makes on my hardware or software purchase. I buy what fulfills my needs.

Lastly - While Apple does make a ton on their hardware - you'd be naive to think that the ecosystem isn't want it REALLY important long term. Why? People invest in ecosystems. If I'm $X dollars into apps, ibooks, etc - the odds in me leaving Apple's ecosystem (and hardware) are slimmer than not.

The biggest "threat" to Apple isn't so much competing hardware. It's competing ecosystems. Before - Apple had little to no competition. They succeeded in grabbing a lot with both great products and a cohesive ecosystem.

I am sure Apple genuinely cares that Samsung is making competing products as proven by the lawsuits. But Apple knows that every Samsung device sold is one less on Apple's ecosystem. So yes - they lose the hardware purchase - but they lose the recurring income of everything else. And potentially for a lifetime.

The landscape has changed.
 
Because without releasing an iPad with a lightning connector, I don't have the option of getting an iPad with the same connector as my iPhone 5.

They will, at some point, release an ipad with lightning connector.

Your options are hardly limited.
 
Thats exact reason I rushed in getting another one of the current mode for my wife. With retina screen you definitely need good processing and the moment I saw A6 getting upgraded(rather downgraded IMO ) I wanted to get one immediately before it goes out of stock.

are you stupid? you really think Apple would downgrade the iPad in anyway?


wow
 
Different business models. Both seem to be working for their respective companies. You can argue which is more profitable or who has more market share. That doesn't diminish the fact that both models work - and well.

When Amazon starts putting ad's on their their Kindle Fires, when previous models don't have them, it tells me their original business model may not be working as well as they planned.

I am sure Apple genuinely cares that Samsung is making competing products as proven by the lawsuits. But Apple knows that every Samsung device sold is one less on Apple's ecosystem. So yes - they lose the hardware purchase - but they lose the recurring income of everything else. And potentially for a lifetime.

Samsung made competing products off the hard work of Apple. See? We make a phone that looks like an iPhone but at a cheaper price. Instead of any phone at a cheaper price.
 
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I can imagine it would be beneficial for apple to sell everything with one connector... also for dock manufacturers.. just my $0,02..

Tim: "You know - we're going to make a KILLING on selling these new adapters and cables because of the iPhone 5. We're not really due for a refresh of the iPad - but if we went ahead and sold one with the new cable, we could sell ever more lightening cables. No reason to wait. "

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When Amazon starts putting ad's on their their Kindle Fires, when previous models don't have them, it tells me their original business model may not be working as well as they planned.

But you have absolutely no proof or stats to back up your claim. You're free to think whatever you want - of course. But just because you think it doesn't make it true.
 
It amazes me how people got the naming entirely wrog and they keep coming up with this "new new iPad" As a matter of fact, New was never part of the name. I bought the new iPad and on dhe day one and on the box it didn't say "The new iPad" but just "iPad" Apple was simply referring to it as a new product. Why are people assumning the that the third generation iPad was called the new iPad? Why don't people get confused when the new iMacs or Macbooks are released?

It's the way Apple presented previous generations and then changed the naming scheme (for the better) from numbers to a unified name. Imagine if they did that with the iPhone? MacBooks and iMacs were never numbered, and I think they should just drop the numbering from their hardware entirely.
 
Tim: "You know - we're going to make a KILLING on selling these new adapters and cables because of the iPhone 5. We're not really due for a refresh of the iPad - but if we went ahead and sold one with the new cable, we could sell ever more lightening cables. No reason to wait. "

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But you have absolutely no proof or stats to back up your claim. You're free to think whatever you want - of course. But just because you think it doesn't make it true.

When Amazon starts putting ad's on their their Kindle Fires, when previous models don't have them, it tells me their original business model may not be working as well as they planned.

I'm basing this on my opinion and not stating it as fact.
 
This makes sense to me... I feel like Apple (sans Jobs) is beginning to sell out. They've built a reputation for releasing quality products, generationally.

Recently, iPads started showing up with dents in them and iPhone 5's apparently have some kind of scratching issue.

These shortened launch cycles and reduced quality controls make financial sense for a company who sells millions of everything it releases.

On a side note... they still beat the pants off of Window PC's in my opinion, so I'm not going anywhere!
 
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