Never accused you of saying so. But all companies fail at some point in the future. So saying "if Tesla ever goes into liquidation" is practically meaningless, especially when Tesla is posting healthy margins, even when it's declining than the quarter before.
Always? Wrong.
One example:
Model Y is built on the Model 3 platform, saving time and development costs.
arstechnica.com
Irrelevant anyways.
Which proves Tesla isn't trying to maximize profits.
Again, all companies die at some point in the future. Practically speaking, it's extremely unrealistic any of the current big automakers will be able to buy Tesla.
Ridiculous points.
Ridiculous points? You too, another 6502a accusing me of being ridiculous? Dude, give me a break.
Let's go in reverse order, then, shall we? All companies eventually fail? No s***, La Palice/Sherlock. 🤦♂️ My point was always that Tesla is not the juggernaut Musk sells it as, or at least not while
he is at the helm. Because of, not in spite of him. And I'm willing to be crucified, burned at the stake, quartered, etc. on that hill. Oh, by this point you might've guessed I'm very fond of colourful and hyperbolic language, get used to it.
Next, here you come again with the “maximizing profits” line; Musk may be as dumb as a sack of bricks, but not so much that he, uh, I dunno, literally burns cash away because he likes its glow… Also, do you think Tesla is a charity, perchance? Tesla's freebies aren't any less profit-minded than Apple's “free” OSes, iWork apps, three months' worth of AppleTV+ with a new qualifying device purchase, etc. They aren't free, they are all freebies, and there's a HUGE difference; there are hidden costs associated with them and included in your initial purchase and in other services, and they are always subject to monetization down the line *when you are hooked up*. The only free software that I know if is… you guessed it, F/OSS. And on that subject, I know that CarPlay isn't at all free, but since Apple is a better software development company than any car manufacturing company ever will be (and yes, that includes Tesla, at least in the long run, and I'll also eat my shoe if that doesn't pan out in, say, five to ten years), I'd rather finance my car infotainment system with hefty, one-time purchases of gorgeous multi-purpose hardware that I need for my professional work anyway, than paying yet another stupid, recurring subscription to, ugh, GM or whatever. Or Tesla, after they realize they can't – or won't – finance their own system straight from their coffers at some point.
As for the Model Y, I stand corrected, so thanks, but yes, it is indeed irrelevant, because
the main dish is FSD. That's the game-changer, it's mostly down to software (oh, wait, there's also sensors involved, and it seems Tesla is cheaping out on those, amirite?), and… it keeps being delayed. Oh, model x/y/z (oh, sorry, it was supposed to be SEXY, but Jaguar would have none of it, and it never occurred to Elon to consult with a trademark lawyer before defining his entire branding strategy 🤦♂️), with a/b/c seat configuration and capacity is available, and ahead of schedule, at that? Who cares! You said it yourself, it's… irrelevant. 😂 And now that EVs are popping left and right, meaning the drivetrain and power source are no longer even an exclusive, even less so. We seem to agree that FSD is where it's at, as it's the big differentiator over the next couple of years, and if someone else comes out with it first, or with a substantially better version thereof… Teslas may very well go the way of the Newton, or Windows Phone, or whatever. Yeah, first-comers, successful in a niche and maybe even promising, whatever, but not guaranteed market leaders or even independent in the long run.
I am not saying that Tesla will necessarily collapse (my first comment in that vein was a sort of a hot take, unpopular opinion – is it, though? – kind of thing); I'm just saying that judging from a lot of worrying signs, their FSD system isn't nowhere near ready for consumption. And, if I must say so myself, the cool CT may actually end up being a stupid detour, something that may have distracted Tesla from their main goal of FSD. Of course, product and industrial design shouldn't take away from software design, AI development, etc., but judging by how chaotic Musk's management style seems to be, who knows, really. And, heck, even if it doesn't detract from FSD development… it's the first piece of really innovative kit from Tesla, manufacturing-wise (and let us not forget that the earlier, more conventional models were plagued with fit and finish issues, and you certainly cannot deny those, as I've seen them with my very eyes because I've come across A LOT of Teslas parked around my neighbourhood and city at large, and their panels aren't fit any better than those on my lowly Micra were when it came out of the dealership), and it, too, seems to be chronically delayed.
That alone tells me that Tesla was only truly innovative in drivetrains, batteries and, to a certain extent, infotainment and UX (all fields on which, as I've said, its competitors seem to be catching on), but those two critical delays blow apart half of the mythology around Musk, at least when it comes to cars. Guess what, that, too, reminds me of OceanGate and its stupid usage of carbon fibre and epoxy – all materials from aerospace engineering, from whence Stockton Rush came – on a deep-sea vessel; likewise, designing and building cars isn't exactly rocket science… because, duh, it's
car science. And while the CT's steel/unibody construction looks interesting and promising, there seem to be some issues with it. Shouldn't it have been, then, reserved for a Gen. 2 product, much like Apple does by not jumping right ahead to a new case design (and we should appreciate how Apple's case designs shifted as much between generations as a CT does in relation to conventional chassis) during ISA or other architectural transitions, i.e. they don't try to innovate the innards and the shell at the same time? Tesla hadn't even fleshed out a complete lineup, which effectively constituted a transition from gas (or, better yet and in their case, literally nothing because they were a newcomer) to electricity, and they forged right ahead with an all-around revolutionary product (as in,
completely revolutionary, inside and out) in a market segment that is far from a niche. Oh, gee, what could possibly go wrong with trying to use completely new manufacturing processes right away on a massive scale… (Spoiler: you get a glorified, very resistant and powerful vehicle that's as hard to build in scale, buy and profit from as a Trabant, that's what you get. 😂)