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my point is $20/month is more than reasonable.
...my earlier point about Elon being a Stupid Businessman relates to this. Sure, $20 a month/$240 a year is nothing for 'celebrities' or folks with money. But being "verified" isn't just the random housewife of the week. Some famous authors, musicians & bands, weather forecasters, official business accounts, etc.. It's good to know you could be potentially communicating with the real deal and not a bot.

I've had some great heartwarming conversations on Twitter with folks like John Lurie, Dana Colley (of the band Morphine), Jim Rose from Jim Rose's Circus, A Place to Bury Strangers (band), some folks from a band called Beachwood Sparks I'm absolutely in love with, and TV's Frank (Conniff).. It's also very easy to mute an account.

I'd gladly pay $4.99 a month to remove ads and get a verified badge. And I know there's gotta be at least another 3 like me who would also. Right there there's the same $20 a month. I'm sure maybe even more like 5-6 people per would pay that much as opposed to $20. Year over Year that ends up being more than just the $240 per person. That's why I think, as a business decision, one could have made a much smarter & better decision.
 
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And so begins the inevitable fall of Twitter, soon to be destined to the great social media graveyard alongside MySpace, Bebo and Friends Reunited 😞

dont forget Myspace 2.0, which this reeks of. Celebrity money injection to turn something around only to flop harder because they have no clue.
 
As far as I remember, Tesla doesn't make any profits selling a product--it makes all of its profits based on selling carbon offsets to other companies.
For the last 12 months, Tesla took in 66B of car sales. It took in 1.6B in selling regulatory credits.
Its gross profit was 20B.



Tesla will also soon be competing with car makers that DO know how to make money (here comes Toyota, Honda, MB, VW). Does Star link make money? Does anything Musk runs make money?
Tesla has higher profit margin than Toyota, Honda, MB, and VW. Meaning for every dollar of product it sells, it retains more in profit.

Does that answer your question?
 
...my earlier point about Elon being a Stupid Businessman relates to this. Sure, $20 a month/$240 a year is nothing for 'celebrities' or folks with money. But being "verified" isn't just the random housewife of the week. Some famous authors, musicians & bands, weather forecasters, official business accounts, etc.. It's good to know you could be potentially communicating with the real deal and not a bot.

I've had some great heartwarming conversations on Twitter with folks like John Lurie, Dana Colley (of the band Morphine), Jim Rose from Jim Rose's Circus, A Place to Bury Strangers (band), some folks from a band called Beachwood Sparks I'm absolutely in love with, and TV's Frank (Conniff).. It's also very easy to mute an account.

I'd gladly pay $4.99 a month to remove ads and get a verified badge. And I know there's gotta be at least another 3 like me who would also. Right there there's the same $20 a month. I'm sure maybe even more like 5-6 people per would pay that much as opposed to $20. Year over Year that ends up being more than just the $240 per person. That's why I think, as a business decision, one could have made a much smarter & better decision.

I don't see any logical reason why the average personal Twitter user would want a verified account. I don't see why it would be important/practical to anyone other than famous (at least relatively) people or businesses whom others might try to impersonate to exploit others. And, again, I think those sorts of people/businesses would gladly pay $20/month.
 
Lol. The engineers are paid very well. This is how the real world works—produce on deadline or you are gone. So many babies on this forum!
Not everyone is an engineer. There are a lot of support staff and not to mention those who do not work for Twitter. Try thinking outside the little box you are in.
 
What's the name of the mines? Who are the mining millionaires? How much money did he inherit or was seeded from diamond?


Yes, a company he founded got bought out - meaning he converted his labor into capital. That's how you earn money from building something. Your point?



Tesla was incorporated in summer 2003. Musk bought it at the start of 2004.
Musk brought in his CTO in summer 2004. The founders were booted in 2008.

Tesla sold its first car in 2009. Tesla IPO in 2010. Tesla sold its first volume car in 2012.

Today having sold over 2 million cars, how much of that was Musk, and how much were the original founders?


Tesla received a LOAN from a program initiated by the government. The government also made loans to Ford (10x the size), to Nissan (3x). Tesla fully paid back its loan, with interest, years before Nissan did. Ford still has not paid it back.


And you would be wrong. Government awards contracts for companies to deliver things it needs done, won by companies who can deliver the best results at the best price. If NASA can send deliver twice the load for half the cost by itself, it would do it. This is how things work.



Your judgement of realized achievements seems to be clouded by your personal opinion of the guy. Musk is not a great businessman after growing 2 industry disrupting companies, because he didn't deliver on more things beyond that? What a carrotstick
Look, we all get it, some people are obsessed with Elon and will do and buy every single thing he says and sells, and defend every single part of his past, there’s no getting around that. I’m not going into the deep end to research about someone I don’t care about and who constantly lies and attacks people who go after him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he drops off a sink at my front door in the next few days since he is so petty. Here are some links from five minutes of searching.

My mistake, he’s the child of an emerald mine millionaire and model.

I didn’t say he didn’t deserve credit for being at the start of a company that was eventually bought out, that is how things work. He did not invent or start paypal, he was bought out by a company that EVENTUALLY became paypal, no relation to Elon…. Yet he does get credit for starting paypal which is factually incorrect.



Seems like the original founders had a lot to do with Tesla and how its vehicles operate.

Maybe Tesla paid the loans back, but I did also mention his other companies, this shows his companies have and continue to receive subsidies and tax breaks.

Industry disrupting? Ok sure. Quality products? Not so much.

It’s also not a judgement of realized achievements, it’s literally a matter of fact if all of these people going off on their own to create their own rockets actually paid taxes, space exploration(and basically everything else government funding related) would be much better off than what they are currently doing.
 
It doesn’t matter. It’s a useless website. It’s as unreal as FB losing 200 billion in a week. It’s all fake.
It's utility and value is determined by everyone else, not just you.

FB losing billions in market cap is real. There is real valuation tied to the stock measured in real dollars when people trade the real shares that confer real equity in the company.

Put a few bucks in a brokerage account and you'll find out how fake it is.
 
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Let's wait and see what the truth is. Twitter staff are clearly not happy with Musk owning the company, there has been so much fake news and claims being leaked. Maybe it is true that he is going to charge $20 for some enhanced service. Whether it is worth it will depend on what you get for $20.

That he is going to fire people if they don't get it live by the 7th? I highly doubt he said that.

Someone is new to the Musk universe.

 
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If you don't like it then don't pay for it. No one is forcing anyone. He owns it now and can do whatever he wants within the law of the country it operates in.
 
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"or else be fired"

He sounds real fun to work for!
I am sure threatening someone with their livelihood ending is a real great motivation for that person to find another form of employment. I had a suspicion when Elon couldn't get out of buying Twitter, he will destroy it. I guess this is the beginning? But Twitter itself isn't that novel of an idea. Sure I didn't think of it, but at the end of the day (and seemingly reason why edit wasn't part of the send tweets), is it is supposed to mimic an SMS... You had the 160-character limit, you couldn't undo or edit after texting something....

But for the $20, does that mean anyone willing to pay can get a blue tick? I would hope actual verified people, has a blue tick and someone just buying the privilege like now future spammers have a different colour to indicate such.
 
A while ago I created a Twitter account for my dad, so he could follow some accounts about news and sports. He did not have any followers and he never tweeted anything. However one day Twitter suspended that account for "suspicious activity". Their algorithm seems to be very strange. Doing nothing is already suspicious.
Yeah if you follow certain people, you're suspicious to the algorithm.
 
At the salary they are likely getting, if they can't get a simple thing like this online in a week they really deserve to be fired anyway. It'd show they are dragging their feet intentionally otherwise or just not qualified for the job and salary in the first place.
 
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