Two New iPhone Models, iPhone 5 Design Seeing Production Delays?

[Reason077]

The iPhone 4 design is perfect in my opinion. It lays flat, it can stand on it's side, why would they curve the back and loose the balance?

Because a curved back is nicer to hold.

Having reviewed their latest patent application filings, I suspect Apple plan to address the "lay-flat" and balance issues using electro-magnetic lifters, much like the ones in those Mattel Hover-boards they used to sell at Toys-R-Us.

 

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[mattg3]

What in hell exactly are we waiting for?No one official has confirmed anything about this phone.All this stuff is rumors only.Im actually waiting on the ipod touch 5G so i will probably be without a product wee into 2012.

 

[Peterg2]

Good things come to those who wait. If your that impatient, go buy that droid bonic thingy.

Precisely. I would rather wait for a phone that is free of "surprises" like antenna and proximity sensor issues.

 

[chrmjenkins]

To be clear, the iPhone 5 announcement may still be "weeks away", but availability and stock of the iPhone 5 may be limited to start, if you believe this rumor.

More importantly, I think this is the first rumor that says "look, there will be both models"

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Yeah, I think people are seeing this as "iPhone delayed beyond original October premiere." It could be the case that the October premiere we are anticipating is the delayed date. I suppose it's also possible that iPhone 4 volumes are considered shortages given the even higher anticipation and possible more carrier debuts.

 

[Reach9]

This is good and bad news!

The good news is that there will indeed be an iPhone 5.
Bad news is that it'll be tough to get, so looks like we all have to start lining up early!

Remember guys they said shortages not release date. Every Apple product has a shortage, i think the iPad 2 was the only one which tried it's best to supply enough.

But i'd rather have it this way than to wait for longer for the iPhone 5. If the rumors are true, then it will be well worth the wait.

 

[Peterg2]

For me the key point (from the original post) is "continued design and production delays...." If you continue fiddling with the design you are going to have delays in production.

 

[Reach9]

For me the key point (from the original post) is "continued design and production delays...." If you continue fiddling with the design you are going to have delays in production.

Right, and that confirms initial complaints that the iPhone 5 is "very tough to make".
Wow, this is going to be a beast if the rumors are true.

 

[Peterg2]

Right, and that confirms initial complaints that the iPhone 5 is "very tough to make".
Wow, this is going to be a beast if the rumors are true.

While I am pretty sure I will update to the '5', this reinforces my idea that even if I were able to obtain a phone early on, I will wait a few months to actually purchase as I fear initial batches may well have problems.

 

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[iEnvy]

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You know what, blame gizmodo! If they would have never fully leaked the iPhone 4, we would see leaked photos of the iPhone 5!

 

[voonyx]

I don't believe that Android's sales are driven by people looking at its features, its openness and making a choice... They're available on EVERY carrier at EVERY price point starting at free... Not to mention that there are many many many many models...

When the average person buys an Android phone they're thinking "Its like an iPhone but..." Fill in the end... Its cheaper, its on Sprint, its on sale with a buy one get one...

I'm not saying that Android is a bad OS... Its actually good... But educated consumer choice isn't the driving factor that is giving it its sales numbers. Its price, availability and market saturation.

Yeah never understood why people think Android users are some super intelligent consumers who do extensive research before purchasing their phones haha...very odd. Maybe it's just a way for people to feel good about their phone choice?

 

[msb3079]

Underpromise, overdeliver.

 

[gri]

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Its so...so...so nice...and... shiny (stutters he while reaching for the credit card)

 

[PCClone]

People make it sound like they are dying of cancer and if they don't get the new drug in time they will die. Some are willing to stop waiting and switch to a competing drug that they know is not the cure, but will relieve the pain temporarily.

Last time I checked, this is a freaking phone, not life or death.

Peace out.

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So we have to wait even longer...?

No, you choose to wait.

 

[stockscalper]

Yeah never understood why people think Android users are some super intelligent consumers who do extensive research before purchasing their phones haha...very odd. Maybe it's just a way for people to feel good about their phone choice?

No, when we former iPhone users purchase an Android phone it's because we want features that the iPhone isn't going to get for the next four years. Look at the "new" features in IOS 5 - Android has had them for years. And look at the mock up design of the iPhone 5, it's a blatant ripoff of one of the Droids.

 

[Peterg2]

Yeah never understood why people think Android users are some super intelligent consumers who do extensive research before purchasing their phones haha...very odd. Maybe it's just a way for people to feel good about their phone choice?

That is such a rank and apocryphal generalization. Android phone purchasers cover a wide spectrum from people who have no idea about using a smart phone to some very tech-savvy users (generally the higher-end phones). Somewhat like iphone purchasers?

 

[KnightWRX]

Like, that's totally brilliant! You won't purchase an iPhone 4 because the iPhone 5 isn't available, but you'll buy a Galaxy SII when the Galaxy SIII isn't available.

Wha... ?

The Samsung Galaxy S II is brand new and up to date. The iPhone 4 is a year and a quarter old. The guy is deciding to buy a brand new phone that just came out since Apple is not coming out with their own new phone right now.

How does that warrant that you insult him ? Did he hurt you or something ? If he wants a SGS II instead of waiting, that's a perfectly fine position. The SGS II is a great phone.

That is such a rank and apocryphal generalization. Android phone purchasers cover a wide spectrum from people who have no idea about using a smart phone to some very tech-savvy users (generally the higher-end phones). Somewhat like iphone purchasers?

Exactly. iPhone buyer, Android phone buyer, in the end, they made the choice that fit their needs and budget. Why do some people on this site feel so threatened because others might have different needs/wants in a phone ?

I'll never get the hostility towards choice and options displayed by some of the members here.

 

[Ramio]

People make it sound like they are dying of cancer and if they don't get the new drug in time they will die. Some are willing to stop waiting and switch to a competing drug that they know is not the cure, but will relieve the pain temporarily.

Last time I checked, this is a freaking phone, not life or death.

Peace out.

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No, you choose to wait.

It's not just a phone. It's my email, internet, videos, notes, games, radio, gps, ipod and so much more. I sold my iphone 4 3 weeks ago and that's why it feels like life or death to me. I'm sure if I haven't sold my 4, it wouldn't be as bad. The fact you are here reading these posts shows that you too are anxious about the new iphone so I find it strange for you to say it's just a phone. Otherwise you wouldn't be here reading rumors.

 

[yrsued]

This is typical, it'll be ready when it's ready

Amen!!

Some wanted a total redesign, this is what happens when there is a total redesign, delays!!

Am I thrilled abut the delays? Absolutely not. But I know it's part of manufacturing. I know, I'm used to it now.

I might have to pick up a used IP4 until the IP5 comes out and I can get one, I don't want to waste my Upgrade in a IP4.

Y

 

[Captainobvvious]

More android smartphone are sold then iOS, you have of course the tablet and pmd but there also android is growing.

Of course basically EVERY smartphone combined outsells 2 phones running iOS... iOS is on two of MANY carriers and has no free or buy one get one free option...

Sure but if android market share keeps rising as it does that isnt going to last.

They're already WAAAAY ahead of Apple... How much bigger does their marketshare need to be before they make more money in their app store than Apple?

Each platform has its advantages and disadvantages price is just 1 of them.

It isn't just price. They are available on EVERY carrier too. Its Price, availability and market saturation. I still stand by what I said... The AVERAGE user goes into the store and says "Oooh its LIKE an iPhone but its (cheap, free, on my carrier).

Now thats BS plenty of people study both and still choose for android even at same or higher pirce levels. Plenty of android top models out there who are just as expensive as iphone.

Yes a lot of people do but the VAST VAST VAST VAST majority don't. The driving force of Android's marketshare aren't $200+ devices. Its the cheap or freebies.

 

[KnightWRX]

It's not just a phone. It's my email, internet, videos, notes, games, radio, gps, ipod and so much more. I sold my iphone 4 3 weeks ago and that's why it feels like life or death to me. I'm sure if I haven't sold my 4, it wouldn't be as bad. The fact you are here reading these posts shows that you too are anxious about the new iphone so I find it strange for you to say it's just a phone. Otherwise you wouldn't be here reading rumors.

It is just a phone that happens to have data for other things, a lot of other phones. The fact that we're here reading posts doesn't show that we're anxious, only interested. My iPhone 3GS works great, I'm not "anxious" to upgrade it, but I am interested in my upgrade options and what my next phone might look like.

In the end it is just a phone. If it ends up being a dud, then other phones on the market work just as well and are as good. For me, again, if I wasn't so invested in the iOS eco-system, I'd probably have a Samsung Android phone now. Those SAMOLED screens are really great.

Of course basically EVERY smartphone combined outsells 2 phones running iOS... iOS is on two of MANY carriers and has no free or buy one get one free option...

iPhone is given away free on contract in many other countries. And the SGS II is not sold on any carriers in the US yet it is the #1 Android handset at the moment, making your point moot.

The world wide numbers shows these US centric arguments are bull. Android sells because Android is good. iPhone sells because iPhone is good. Choice and options are great, not everyone is the same. To defame one for the other is just ludicrous. What is your goal in this ?

 

[voonyx]

No, when we former iPhone users purchase an Android phone it's because we want features that the iPhone isn't going to get for the next four years. Look at the "new" features in IOS 5 - Android has had them for years. And look at the mock up design of the iPhone 5, it's a blatant ripoff of one of the Droids.

Yes I'm sure you did that, but you're not the norm. There are people out there who have actually said "android users are smarter then iPhone users and that's why they pick android" and that's bs. The "average" user, which is the majority of users, doesn't care about specs, OSs, or 4G. People buy phones because they like how they look, or because they're cheap. The iPhone4 is a prime example of that. If it was about specs, that phone would be DOA and there would have been several "iPhone killers" on the market already.

You really think even 3% of Android users worldwide are going into stores going "can you show me your latest dual core 4G phones with 1GB of RAM?"...no. You and I may do that, but I'm not naive enough to think that that's the norm.

Go outside of the forums and ask people their opinion on the S2, and youll get a lot of blank stares. People don't do extensive research when buying electronics and accessories. If they did Best Buy wouldn't get away with something like this when you can buy a cheapo cable at monoprice and get the same exact quality. Same thing with phones, no one is sitting around doing extensive research before going to the store.

As much as people want to think that consumers are educated, the fact is they're not.

 

[drober30]

The iPhone5 is going to carry-on the iPhone4 design. There are already tons of accessories like cases using the iPhone4 design. Why risking another re-design after the antenna-gate fiasco? The focus right now is iOS5 and iCloud. The delays are probably simply due to the A5 (heat, battery-life, clock-speed tuning, etc). Putting it on the huge iPad2 with large battery is easy, but it's challenging to put it inside a phone. Heck, Apple even had to down-clock the A4 on the iPhone 4. People can argue it's not a "revolutionary" jump, but the A5 imo is already a leap from the A4, with dual-core and a much better GPU.

The larger screen device is the next iPod Touch. Apple has been pushing the iPod Touch as a portable gaming device. Increasing its screen size makes sense as there is more screen space for touch controls. And it's an iPod, so the marketing tagline is it will be the best iPod ever to watch your movies on. Add on a 3G version, plus iCloud, it just clicks.

New phones are coming out all the time and Apple has to keep pace.

Releasing a new style phone once a year is going to be a minimum requirement!

A redesigned phone helps them get rid of the antenna issues with the iPhone 4, although my issues are gone with using the bumper. I like the bumber too!

I do agree with the rumors of a 3G iPod touch... just makes sense. I can also see data planes like the iPad uses.

 

[voonyx]

That is such a rank and apocryphal generalization. Android phone purchasers cover a wide spectrum from people who have no idea about using a smart phone to some very tech-savvy users (generally the higher-end phones). Somewhat like iphone purchasers?

Absolutely. I'm not implying that iPhone users are smarter, either. Most people don't care. But don't try to tell me the tech-savvy ones are anywhere near the majority who purchase these phones...