Two thoughts

[Applejuiced]

You don't have to look far. Check around the forum and you'll see many people not interested or a fan of the iPhone x and many of its shortcomings.
Unless offcourse others opinions on the iPhone x bother you that much that you can't handle it...

Applejuiced, where are these MANY people you are referring to, I have not seen or heard of them?

 

[tsturbo]

Nah, I don’t need to look far, the X will be big success, I just hope I am able to secure one on the 27th, it is going to be brutal!

 

[macfacts]

Please point me towards another smartphone that offers face recognition that uses 3D mapping for accurate multiple data point and has the same security level as what’s on the iPhone X. Not to mention the other uses the data gathered by the 3D mapping can be implemented. No one has done that before in any smartphone. That is somethin brand new wether you agree or not. You’re just salty about camera bumps and obsess about using words like “fugly” over and over as an adult.

With the iPhone X's 3d camera, Apple showed off animated emojis. That doesn't look ground breaking compared to the "dog ear filter for snapchat" that is available for iPhone 7 with its normal camera.

 

[flat five]

You need no ‘real-world usage’.

you really believe that?

maybe you should tone down the bragging about how smart you are, how good of an engineer you are, how superior your ideas are, etc.
it's a bad look..
especially when being backed up by the above statement.

but here's a hint-- if it's so important for you to be recognized by people on an internet forum as "the smart engineer with superior ideas to Apple's moronic engineers".. it it's that important then the last way you should go about it is the way you're doing it.. do it through example.. show us how smart you are and how good your ideas are.. don't just try to tell it and expect people to believe you.. because when you talk like this, it has the opposite effect than what you're going for.. it makes you look dumb and attention seeking.. and hey, an intelligent person would know this already.

 

[SoN1NjA]

Show me where it’s been done before (the FaceID) as Apple is doing it on the X.

The sensors for Face ID are a Kinect on a much smaller scale

Sure it’s not a 1:1, but it’s only because Microsoft’s Kinect purpose isn’t for face scanning

Windows Hello would be a good example, it scans faces using IR

 

[Applejuiced]

I have my doubts that it will sell even close to what past iphone models did.
But as long as you like it and you're happy with it that's all that matters

Nah, I don’t need to look far, the X will be big success, I just hope I am able to secure one on the 27th, it is going to be brutal!

 

[iSayBoourns]

With the iPhone X's 3d camera, Apple showed off animated emojis. That doesn't look ground breaking compared to the "dog ear filter for snapchat" that is available for iPhone 7 with its normal camera.

I never said Animojis were groundbreaking. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

My reference to 3rd parties having access to the 3D mapping and such can potentially have some neat uses emerge (there are a lot of very creative developers out there that can really think outside the box)
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You don't have to look far. Check around the forum and you'll see many people not interested or a fan of the iPhone x and many of its shortcomings.
Unless offcourse others opinions on the iPhone x bother you that much that you can't handle it...

It’s funny. Many around these forums talk about the Apple reality distortion. Yet the same people are out of touch with reality when they think just because a very small amount of people (20-30 or so) on a small forum, in a small corner of the internet, that they represent the majority. Being completely clueless to the absolute fact that forums in nature are the gathering place for people unhappy with the products they continue to buy year after year.

The vast majority of iPhone users have probably never even heard of macrumors or would even care to post on a forum.

So stop acting like just because a few grumpy, likeminded people gather to a place that is designed to gripe about things, means you are the many. You’re not.

 

[44267547]

Nah, I don’t need to look far, the X will be big success, I just hope I am able to secure one on the 27th, it is going to be brutal!

As long as you plan on pre-ordering almost immediately, I would say your chances are fairly high that you will receive one much sooner than most expect. The only thing I question, is the stability of servers on carrier website and with Apple, and How stable they will be.

 

[dumastudetto]

FaceID isn't a breakthrough technology, it was implemented because Apple couldn't get fingerprint scanning to work under a glass display and it was it's fallback.


It's not using the exact same technology, but Samsung has face scanning and iris scanning that works very well.

Iris scanning found in other devices such as Samsung is absolutely terrible. It barely works in ideal conditions, throw in glasses, or bad light, and it almost never works.

If Face ID works as well as Apple promises it will, it is breakthrough technology and a game changer for facial recognition.

 

[geoff5093]

Iris scanning found in other devices such as Samsung is absolutely terrible. It barely works in ideal conditions, throw in glasses, or bad light, and it almost never works.

If Face ID works as well as Apple promises it will, it is breakthrough technology and a game changer for facial recognition.

Touch ID was just fine.

 

[dumastudetto]

Touch ID was just fine.

Apple isn't a "just fine" company. They are industry leaders because they push for better.

 

[cube]

Apple isn't a "just fine" company. They are industry leaders because they push for better.

They make their computers worse.

 

[geoff5093]

Apple isn't a "just fine" company. They are industry leaders because they push for better.

Most would argue face id is inferior

 

[Diorama]

Most would argue face id is inferior

Those people haven’t used it yet (and apparently don’t have wet hands as often as I do)

 

[jamesrick80]

So according to you what is so groundbreaking with this new device?
An OLED screen that's been around for several years? Wireless qi charging that's been around way before?
Face id that's been around for many years but slightly improved by Apple?
Most of it copied by competitors that have been around for years and supposedly an improved face detection option again late to the game.
For a price increase of $300 and loss of a home button that they couldn't get to work under the screen.
No thanks, not wasting $1100-1300 on that.
You can go for it though if you like it, it's your choice

Correct and $1000 for a 5.8 inch display is really messed up if you think about it. At least the Note 8 gives you your money's worth with the huge 6.3 inch screen, additional features, and a S Pen. The display is the primary feature on your phone and should be the biggest and best for $1000.00.

To make matters worst, the S8 is 5.8 inches with more screen real estate for playing videos than a iPhone X and it can be found for $550 brand new. Anyone here who believes Apple has done something groundbreaking should quit making excuses for themselves. You have been lied to. You are paying 1000.00 for a phone with far less capabilities than other comparable phones.

 

[DNichter]

I agree. They took everything in the huge chins of the 8 and prior, plus the TrueDepth camera, and put it all in just the space of the notch. I think this is a pretty big leap forward for Apple and it's users. The new camera system is much more advanced than what is out there currently and developers will make that even more obvious. Prices always start high for new tech/form factors (think MacBook Air) and will come down in the next couple years.

 

[Technarchy]

Correct and $1000 for a 5.8 inch display is really messed up if you think about it. At least the Note 8 gives you your money's worth with the huge 6.3 inch screen, additional features, and a S Pen. The display is the primary feature on your phone and should be the biggest and best for $1000.00.

To make matters worst, the S8 is 5.8 inches with more screen real estate for playing videos than a iPhone X and it can be found for $550 brand new. Anyone here who believes Apple has done something groundbreaking should quit making excuses for themselves. You have been lied to. You are paying 1000.00 for a phone with far less capabilities than other comparable phones.

Notice how many conveniently people ignore when they are told to handle a Samsung S8 if they want a feel for the iPhone X.

That's not a joke. Not Only does it have all tech, but the international version, the better version, is only $450.00 right now.

 

[DNichter]

The amount of people who regularly unlock and get to their home screen without even glancing at their iPhone amazes me.

 

[eyoungren]

The vast majority of iPhone users have probably never even heard of macrumors or would even care to post on a forum.

You are entirely correct, so I will interject my two cents here.

These same people you describe are also not interested in "breakthrough" technology. They don't care. Does iTunes work and play my music? Can I make a phone call? Can I text someone a selfie? I want to update my Facebook wall!

I work with this type of person and I guarantee you she doesn't give a damn about FaceID and the discussion in this thread. Her response to the 8/8+ and the X after her first four months with her iPhone 7+ was "It's going to be a while before I upgrade."

Hell, my telling her about how turning off Bluetooh in the IOS 11 CC doesn't mean turning off Bluetooth scared her from even installing it on her 7+.

So, you're right. We are the only ones arguing about these things. Most people don't even realize they are using Apple's "technology" or they just turn it off or they simply do not care. But mostly they don't see this tech like we do.

Breakthrough, smeakthrough.
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Apple isn't a "just fine" company. They are industry leaders because they push for better.

Which metric are you using here?

Because industry leader by terms of market share means Android.
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They make their computers worse.

Amen. PowerPC to Intel switch for starters.

 

[KUKitch]

If you say so.
I prefer to just push the capacitive home button.
Very easy to find without looking and in a fraction of a second it lets me in the homscreen

I've never understood this, my brother has said the same thing... he doesn't like the idea b/c he'll have to look at the screen. What are you doing while/after unlocking without looking at the phone? If you're gonna use it, you're gonna be looking at it unless it's Siri, and I'm guessing both would operate that effectively - seems to me that the same "fraction of a second" will happen as you look at it and swipe up or whatever

 

[eyoungren]

I've never understood this, my brother has said the same thing... he doesn't like the idea b/c he'll have to look at the screen. What are you doing while/after unlocking without looking at the phone? If you're gonna use it, you're gonna be looking at it unless it's Siri, and I'm guessing both would operate that effectively - seems to me that the same "fraction of a second" will happen as you look at it and swipe up or whatever

I'll take a guess here on this since I work in an office on a computer all day.

Possibly the thinking is that you're a little busy doing work but you know in the next couple of minutes that you need to use your phone for something. While you're busy scanning your monitor you reach over to where you know your phone is and touch the button to unlock the phone without looking at the phone because your eyes are on your monitor.

But you're still a little busy taking care of what you need to do. You finish that and then reach over to pick up your phone to do what it was you were going to do with it knowing that because you used TouchID it's already unlocked and you can directly proceed.

Having to juggle more than one thing at once at work this is a scenario I can see happening.

My guess on this anyway.

 

[MistrSynistr]

FACE ID is "breakthrough tech" no one wanted, what don't you understand?

 

[DaveOP]

Notice how many conveniently people ignore when they are told to handle a Samsung S8 if they want a feel for the iPhone X.

That's not a joke. Not Only does it have all tech, but the international version, the better version, is only $450.00 right now.

Oh nice, they added the A11, photo hardware, dual camera, and 3D facial scanning, and iOS in a software update to the S8?!!?
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FACE ID is "breakthrough tech" no one wanted, what don't you understand?

I wanted it. Lots of others did too. Many people disagree with you, what don't you understand about that?

 

[sammy2066]

No it doesn't. Breakthrough can mean revolutionary new standards of existing technology. Touch screen phones existed before the iPhone but it's hard to argue that the iPhone didn't give the market breakthrough tech, for example.

We don't know enough about Face ID to know whether it meets such a standard.

Sorry, flawed argument. Agree with your point that the first iPhone's capacitive screen was breakthrough, because it improved touch responsiveness and the overall user experience by an order of magnitude compared to resistive touch screens. However, in the case of FaceID, I couldn't care less how breakthrough the underlying tech is, if all its doing at the end of the day is unlocking my device. Do Samsung devices accomplish the same end result? Yes. Has it been conclusively proven they're less secure, or that FaceID is unbreachable, no for both. I rest my case.

 

[Applejuiced]

Just wait for it till people start realizing what they got themselves in once they start using them.
Once I have to move my face around to position to the sensor or near the area covered by the face sensor etc...
Many use their phone while siting flat on a table and not having their face directly on top of their phones at all times.
How is sticking your face infront of it better or easier than putting your finger on the home for a fraction of a second? Its not.
Get ready for tons of selfies a day and misread indicators asking for the passcode just like on the keynote

I've never understood this, my brother has said the same thing... he doesn't like the idea b/c he'll have to look at the screen. What are you doing while/after unlocking without looking at the phone? If you're gonna use it, you're gonna be looking at it unless it's Siri, and I'm guessing both would operate that effectively - seems to me that the same "fraction of a second" will happen as you look at it and swipe up or whatever