U.S. Government Investigating Apple's Power Management Features That Slow Older iPhones

[Act3]

To prove that when given a choice people will choose a reliable, but slightly slower device than one that randomly reboots.

I don't consider a 6s, running at a clock speed slower than a 5s due to a poor battery, a slightly slower device.

 

[jarman92]

Ok. We won't go into clickwrap details, but suffice it to say terms of use sorta take a back seat to the law.

What law says tech companies can't issue software updates?

 

[mudflap]

Racist much?

Not racist. It's the truth.

 

[jarman92]

Apple altered devices not belonging to them well after the sale. If batteries were the issue they could have replaced batteries under warranty or notified users that their batteries needed servicing. Let the investigations begin.

So you're claiming Apple/Google/Samsung/etc. are barred by law from "altering" devices after sale with software updates that users must download and install themselves? Guess we better shut down Silicon Valley now then.

 

[magicschoolbus]

That's not a racist statement. It's factual. It is a bunch of 60+ year old white men with little understanding of technology.

Wondering why their race and gender matter.

I hope Apple gets what is coming to them.

 

[jarman92]

Yeah and there really isn't any excuse for running out of them.

The "excuse" is limited supply...should Tim just snap his fingers and make more batteries appear?

 

[mudflap]

Tim isn't going anywhere. It's overseen Apple climb to their most profitable point in history. He's overseen quarter after quarter of record breaking earnings.

Please, tell us what he's done to be ousted from a position he's run beautifully?

The only thing I can think of is that he's a homosexual liberal who (rightfully) speaks out against issues that he cares deeply about.

 

[Boatboy24]

To play devils advocate; iOS terms of use say they can.

Yeah, but nobody reads that.

 

[MrBat]

Because Steve Jobs laid down such a good legacy that anyone would have been able to keep growing the profits, and the recent success hapened despite Tim Cook's horrendous management style. He has the classic corporation manager attitude that has lead so many creative departments to destruction.

We're in a Sculley era. Most haven't realised this yet. Apple needs a new Steve, somebody with true vision, of the likes of Elon Musk.

 

[tkukoc]

Apple altered devices not belonging to them well after the sale. If batteries were the issue they could have replaced batteries under warranty or notified users that their batteries needed servicing. Let the investigations begin.

lol you installed the update, then you agreed to changes, they do not have to be disclosed. If you even took time to read the notes when an update comes up you'd see terms you agreed to. You cannot blame Apple for you not reading. Not to mention the average user has no idea how batteries and programming languages work. Because if you took the time to learn anything about how batteries work and how programming works, you'd see this is very much overblown, but of course everyone is always looking for free stuff so of course lets all jump on the Apple is bad bandwagon to claim our prizes. Good grief.

 

[Act3]

Not racist. It's the truth.

ain't true at all

https://www.sec.gov/Article/about-commissioners.html

https://www.justice.gov/atr

 

[jarman92]

The government also need to investigate Apple abusing iCloud locking people out of their devices to force them to buy new devices even when it hasn't been reported lost.

You can take off the tinfoil hat now...

 

[Baymowe335]

Apple altered devices not belonging to them well after the sale. If batteries were the issue they could have replaced batteries under warranty or notified users that their batteries needed servicing. Let the investigations begin.

Terms and conditions. No guarantee of performance. Software updates are expected over the life of a phone.

This will be a big nothing. Apple vs a government investigation. Gee, I wonder who is smarter and has better lawyers.

 

[mactactic]

I guess “LIL” Timmy has some explaining to do!!

 

[deanthedev]

I don't consider a 6s, running at a clock speed slower than a 5s due to a poor battery, a slightly slower device.

I don’t consider clock speed reported by an App or benchmark a reliable source of device speed.

For that you’re going to have to run some Apps and compare their speed and responsiveness.

 

[mi7chy]

We're in a Sculley era. Most haven't realised this yet. Apple needs a new Steve, somebody with true vision, of the likes of Elon Musk.

Hoping Tesla agree to an Apple buyout but under condition that Elon Musk will run both companies with Tim Cook retiring.

 

[iMcLovin]

I dont believe Apple when they say the only reason they do this is to hold battery on par. My 1st gen apple watch has become SO slow with each update that now currently starting a workout can sometimes take a minute or two before it starts. Worst case it just seem to completely stop. And recently I sent my watch in for repair and Apple gave me a brand new one, so the battery should be completely fine. But the watch is slow, almost to the point it's not worth keeping it anymore.

 

[Rogifan]

Oh good grief. You’d think the government would have more important things to worry about.

 

[CodeSpyder]

The money grubbers are after some of Apple’s money. When a company is successful, folks want to take a bite of the earnings.

 

[Ladybug]

So you're claiming Apple/Google/Samsung/etc. are barred by law from "altering" devices after sale with software updates that users must download and install themselves? Guess we better shut down Silicon Valley now then.

Would you be ok with Apple removing a gig of ram out of your phone after the sale? Obviously there are limits to what can or should be done via software. "Battery Service Needed" ... see how easy that would have been.

 

[Rogifan]

Please quote the section in which this claim is made.
A quick scan of the iOS TOS for iOS 10 makes no such claim regarding hardware performance.
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iOS10.pdf

Where does Apple make any guarantees about hardware performance? Even their slides during keynotes don’t say you will get X level of performance for Y number of years.

 

[Ladybug]

lol you installed the update, then you agreed to changes, they do not have to be disclosed. If you even took time to read the notes when an update comes up you'd see terms you agreed to. You cannot blame Apple for you not reading. Not to mention the average user has no idea how batteries and programming languages work. Because if you took the time to learn anything about how batteries work and how programming works, you'd see this is very much overblown, but of course everyone is always looking for free stuff so of course lets all jump on the Apple is bad bandwagon to claim our prizes. Good grief.

Ah ok, the old looking for free stuff claim. Still doesn't make what Apple did right. Sorry!

 

[Rogifan]

Totally disagree. This upset millions of consumers who were unaware their devices were being throttled. And in a way, it's planned obsolescence without disclosure. Not OK. Instead of quietly throttling old iPhones, maybe Apple should do what consumers are asking for and make a better battery?

Nothing the government needs to be involved with. If the company wasn’t named Apple there wouldn’t be a government investigation.

 

[pat500000]

Do you have some sort of a masculinity complex?

Apologizing when you seriously effed up isn't "beta".

Constantly apologizing? really?

 

[Hieveryone]

This has gotten beyond absurd.

Apple can do whatever they want with managing CPU and battery performance on any device at any time. It is beyond insane to suggest that anyone outside of Apple has any right to any particular level of CPU performance at any given time.

Tim Cook has embarrassed Apple by admitting wrong where none existed and has opened the company to undue scrutiny.

Nah. Slowing down old iPhones isn't acceptable to me.