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U.S. Senators Ask Apple to Remove DUI Checkpoint Apps From App Store

If Apple removes those Apps then they need to remove text messaging which is just as distracting and dangerous as being drunk.
 
spice weasel said:
It's a PITA to get caught in the traffic that sobriety checkpoints cause. Besides, all the ones I've ever seen are so obvious from far away that unless you are both drunk and retarded you'll just turn around and take a different route.
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So is it worth your time to capture fugitives, drivers with revoked licenses and drug dealers (which checkpoints do) or is sitting in traffic not worth that?
 
dime21 said:
But they need to pass many laws to protect you from yourself! Citizens are too stupid to make their own decisions, we need wise lawmakers to pass tons of pointless laws and tell us how to live our lives!! /sarcasm
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Same argument.

If 150,000 Apple users ask Apple to pull it tomorrow as they did with the anti-gay app do you think they should?

After all, that's a lot of citizens making a decision.

It's amazing how laws that people like you only support are the ones that you think are worthwhile. When those laws get removed then you can't stop complaining about them.
 
Obi-Wan Kubrick said:
This APP should be pulled. I hope MADD gets a hold of this story.
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What for? Those insane clowns want a 0.0 DUI limit in every state, so that even using a strong mouth-wash in the morning is enough to send you to jail for 6 months.

highdough said:
Tell that to all those that have lost friends or family members to drunk driving.

I've had my place broken into before and it sucks. But rarely does it result in someone's death. Drunk driving often does.
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Amen bro! These bored Senators should pass some laws and make drunk driving illegal, that way people won't do it. Oh wait...

OneMike said:
This app needs to stay. I don't drink at all nor support drinking and driving, but these are the kinds of policies are the start of bad things.
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Bad things indeed. Like switching to Android. Apple's insane app-store policies, including the countless apps they've already pulled for stupid reasons have got me eyeing Android devices for my next phone. Bye-bye iOS Nazi's...
 
ArcaneDevice said:
So is it worth your time to capture fugitives, drivers with revoked licenses and drug dealers (which checkpoints do) or is sitting in traffic not worth that?
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really?

so would you be in favor of random searches of your house without a warrant? I mean, sure its an inconvenience and a little bit of time, but the police would be sure to find some fugitives in these searches right?
 
xlii said:
Let me see... wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya... high unemployment in the USA. Cost of energy is killing the average guy in the pocketbook. I know... lets spend our time getting those terrible DUI apps out of the app store... that way we can tell our Constituents what a great job we are doing representing them in Washington.

PS

Don't forget to vote (them out).
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I love these sorts of statements. So, by your logic, since there are plenty of evils in the world that authorities should be investigating, they then need to ignore all other perils. You actually believe that the people responsible for the police checkpoints and the politicians contacting Apple are being distracted from doing their work about the Mid-East and unemployment? LOL. If Obama were busying with App Store complaints, then you would have a point.

Use your brains, people.
 
Ugh, if you're coherent enough to launch the app, you're probably sober.

That said, lawmakers should push the auto industry to install breathalyzers, not be asking Apple to do something. I understand the intention, but there is a better way.
 
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-you can totally go out, get s***t faced and if you can still see straigtht use an app to avoid the fuzz.
 
DUI Checkpoints

If keeping anticrime checkpoints secret is so important to the effectiveness of the law then how come they don't conduct secret checkpoints for Terrorists on airplanes at the airports. The tell you in advance where they are going to be inspecting..and I am a lot more concerned about airplanes being bombed out of the sky which will 100% for certain kill a whole lot of people that about catching a drunk driver that may or may not kill someone.

Either keeping anticrime checkpoints secret is a better idea than letting everyone know where they are or it isnt.

The FEDS seem to think that its a better idea to let people know in advance where they are checking the general public for illegal activities.
 
JAT said:
The legal limit is not so high that you have to actually be wasted to measure at illegal. I could see these being quite popular apps.

So, people get drunk at home, then drive? I would've thought most driving drunk were out and are returning home.

I don't think cops here even do this. I take it a checkpoint stops all cars? I've never seen that in my decades in MN. We have frequent notices (last one was on 3/17) on our highway info signs that say "Increased DUI patrol" or similar, no actual checkpoints.


Oh, and, this sounds like something Apple will agree to pull. I can't even decide which side I'm on. As I said, not relevant in MN, and not relevant to me personally, not too into alcohol.
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Another Minnesotan! And not only that but we stand on the subject in the same point of view! Holy cow let's make hot dish or somethin' eh!

edit: Also, Drinking while driving is becoming less of a problem than texting while driving. It's illegal in MN. Just for the trivial loving people out there.
 
I'm surprised there isn't a law against these types of Apps already. I agree that they should be pulled.
 
maflynn said:
The seemingly only purpose of this app is to avoid the checkpoints could be dangerous to those of us who don't drink and drive. They should pull any app.
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So why can't I--who is fully sober--use this app so I don't have to put up with the questionably legal practice of checkpoints?
 
JAT said:
And...idk, what do you mean?

Hmm, "hot dish" instead of "casserole", verified. But, that "eh" sounds Canadian. Are you sure you're from here? ;)
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Haha! Up north from the Little Falls/Brainerd area a lot of people say "eh" ;)
 
martid4 said:
They pulled the gay cure app too. So if you have to go to jail for driving drunk, I guess you should be gay too so you can enjoy it.
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Bzzt, wrong!

Companies are free to self-censor. They can do that based on public-opinion, or on the opinion of management. The only time that they CANNOT do so is if it's in direct violation of laws that protect certain protected classes of persons (race is a good example). For example, admitting apps by white programmers and not from "developers of color".

The public crying for Apple or anyone to remove an app is NOT CENSORSHIP.

How anyone doesn't get this is beyond me.

Freedom of Speech is a protection from the government. Citizens and Corporations can't violate the constitutional amendment because it is a law that defines what the state cannot do, not what companies and people can choose to do or not do.

Equating the government infringing on speech (which applications fall under) with companies infringing on speech is a complete misunderstanding of the basic rights of this country.
 
SAIRUS said:
That said, lawmakers should push the auto industry to install breathalyzers, not be asking Apple to do something. I understand the intention, but there is a better way.
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Would you buy a car that cost a few hundred dollars more just so you would have to blow into a tube every time you got in it just so you could start it?

Guilty until proven innocent.
 
Wow - this thread shows exactly why these senators specifically mentioned the DWI checkpoint element. What I'm sure they really want is to get rid of apps like Trapster that also enable us to report and share speed trap locations.

I don't think anyone is gonna admit to condoning drunk driving, but if you come out against this particular issue it is easy for your opponents to make it look like you do.

You people are all falling right into their trap, how can you not see that? :eek: If they succeed in generating enough press about this, Apple will pull the apps just to shut people up.
 
Pointless

Maybe they should stop radio stations from announcing speed traps also. We all know that speed kills.
 
Putting my serious hat on, I hate the concept of these checkpoints. Way too Berlin Wall for me. "Papers please!" Stopping everyone on the road for a search is no different than the police going door-to-door to search peoples homes, just in case something illegal may be inside.

These cops sit on their asses on the side of the road with the speed gun. Why? To meet their speeding ticket quota for the month to make revenue for the state. If they actually spent their time doing something useful, you know, like patrolling the streets, they would easily spot the reckless, drunk, texting, (insert infraction here) drivers and wouldn't need to set up these check points.
 
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triceretops said:
Would you buy a car that cost a few hundred dollars more just so you would have to blow into a tube every time you got in it just so you could start it?

Guilty until proven innocent.
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Uh, I don't think that is for random people. It is a punishment for those already convicted. AKA, guilty.
 
martygras9 said:
I actually agree. Pull 'em. It may be censorship, but it's dangerous not to.
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Then don't use it, but we don't care what you think. Censorship is what it is. Lets not forget some states have band some books or tried to. If your able to use a phone then your not that drunk.

Dangerous you say then lets ban everything under the sun after all we would not want the little kiddie population to get hurt. :rolleyes:
 
dime21 said:
Putting my serious hat on, I hate the concept of these checkpoints. Way too Berlin Wall for me. "Papers please!" Stopping everyone on the road for a search is no different than the police going door-to-door to search peoples homes, just in case something illegal may be inside.

These cops sit on their asses on Saturday night, on the side of the road with the speed gun. Why? To meet their speeding ticket quota for the month to make revenue for the state. If they actually spent their time doing something useful, you know, like patrolling the streets, they would easily spot the reckless, drunk, texting, (insert infraction here) drivers and wouldn't need to set up these check points.
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+1

FWIW, DUI checkpoints are borderline unconstitutional.
 
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