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How do you buy more than one? Don't you have to activate them at the store before leaving? Didn't they start that awhile back so you couldn't just buy several and sell them? Looks like a flaw in the system if you ask me. And its not fair to the people who really wanted one but couldnt get into the system to order one. Go capitalism... :(
 
Those of you who are buying multiple phones only to sell them and profit, jump off a bridge. Thanks.

You only make it harder for the others that actually want one.

Don't get me wrong, I actually want one. I want one so badly that I spent a lot of time yesterday trying over and over to order one - I didn't give up after 2 or 3 attempts.

What's wrong with letting buyers decide how much they are willing to pay for it?
 
I'm getting it for no other reason than the new display. I obviously haven't seen it in person, but from all the pictures and info I've read, the new screen is far superior than the 3gs screen. That's reason enough for me! :)
 
Part of me thinks that they purposefully produced a limited quantity for the initial batch in order to have those magic words, 'sold out'.

Um you realize how much effort goes into producing 600k units? Apple want's to sell as many as fast as possible and would sell more if they had the capacity to do so.

The 3GS was already a record breaker as was the 3G. With demand at 10x the 3GS pre-order that's pretty unpredictable, even if you were trying to be conservative.
 
Why would Apple even send the iphone 4 to stores for Day-Of sales? They should just save their inventory for people who pre-order it.

Best bet would to find a remote Radio Shack on the 24th where there will be little to no line. Apple and ATT stores are going to be insane. Don't forget about WalMart and Best Buy too
 
At least a dozen people I talked to yesterday truly thought the iPhone 4 for was using 4G technology.

Never under estimate the ignorance of the average consumer. ;)

There will be a lot of disappointed iPhone 4 owners when they get them and realize the phone still uses the same 3G connection as the 3G and 3GS.
Funny that all the other phones which even have '4G' in their name have not been flying off the shelf yet.
 
I still can't get my order in! FMLFMLFMLFML!

from another thread here:

I figured out how to do it via the Apple Store app! Once sliding the slider at the bottom, go back to the top and tap the blue button again to add it to your cart! Genius, right? Too bad I couldn't figure this out yesterday and I could've actually gotten a phone in time for the 24th. Oh well, better than going to the store and having problems getting your phone activated.

this works!
 
So the "average" person knows about 4G, but doesn't know that iPhone 4 isn't 4G? I'm calling it.
The average idiot sees those Sprint 4G commercials and thinks these must be 4G as well.
I'm dead serious.
I'm talking about people who work in tech that believed these were 4G capable.
Everyone of them was shocked when I told them, "no, it's not 4G it's still a 3G phone, it's just the 4th model".

More money than brains I guess.
 
alright, i didn't pre order it yesterday. :eek:

i tried to pre order it now, but it said no more reservations in stores at the very end..lammee..they shouldn't let you pre order if you can't even get it.

but, since theres so many pre orders, will they just have some for people who walk in?
 
Once again, so, so, so, so, so very glad I was able to pre-order mine yesterday. God forbid I have to wait a whole entire month longer! :D
 
They should have. They have people who's only job with the company is to analyze numbers and determine the amount of product needed for a roll-out.

Part of me thinks that they purposefully produced a limited quantity for the initial batch in order to have those magic words, 'sold out'.

I know what you're saying and I'm well aware of supply chain mgmt and planning - however, I don't have a hard time believing that these numbers far exceed their expectations.

while neither Apple or ATT is going to throw one or the other under the bus right now, having 13 million people access the ATT site to even check eligibility is an enormous strain or any front. The problem is, you've got people had no idea about this pre-sale prior to maybe the day before jumping on the wagon and lagging servers trying to check their upgrade status. I know numerous girls that had zero clue about any of this until they saw it on the news the night before that decided they wanted one as well. not everyone was prepared and I have a feeling there were a lot of late comers to the party.

I've heard a lot of, well this wouldn't have happened if they'd just go to Verizon already. i can promise you that Verizon's servers would have had the same issues as ATT yesterday.

Again, we're talking about possible record setting volume for any consumer product ever made. You can prepare as much as possible, but are you ever really prepared for the possibly the largest selling product in history in a 24-hr period?
 
The average idiot sees those Sprint 4G commercials and thinks these must be 4G as well.
I'm dead serious.
I'm talking about people who work in tech that believed these were 4G capable.
Everyone of them was shocked when I told them, "no, it's not 4G it's still a 3G phone, it's just the 4th model".

And I bet they would use the iPhone4 and never know it wasn't 4G.
 
They should have. They have people who's only job with the company is to analyze numbers and determine the amount of product needed for a roll-out.

Part of me thinks that they purposefully produced a limited quantity for the initial batch in order to have those magic words, 'sold out'.

Anyone who had access to a growth chart of iPhone adoption could've easily shown you that the demand for this roll-out would be exponentially higher than for the 3GS.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy for Apple's success, but make no mistake, they knew they would hit these figures.

Stories about systems going down and 600,000 sold are publicity. And you know what they say about publicity...

I had thought this was obviuos? The way I see it, yes, Apple does want free publicity. They would have lost money by wasting more time delaying the launch to build more phones, and then they would have missed out on the free "SOLD OUT" publicity. It would be a lose-lose situation.

Similarly, they could have gone ahead and invested huge amounts of money in increased server space for the one day a year their website gets overloaded, but then they would have had to spend money, and again miss out on the free "SERVERS JAMMED BECAUSE THE IPHONE IS SO AWESOME" publicity. Again, lose-lose.

Yes, Apple has people hired specifically to predict demand. They predicted, not doubt, that this would happen, and they are happy about it.
 
Justification from anti-iPhone/evo/android crowd:
1) 99% of people upgrading are current iPhone users. Well, all 9.9 of them are anyway.
2) Teh steve order them to get in line. After the initial rush no one will want the iPhone whatever
3) Apple, not ATT, had their servers crushed not because of demand but incompitence on there part. There were only three people trying to order the phone yesterday and they couldn't do THAt right.
4) What? No white? LAMEEEE
5) Clearly apple is making up numbers and restricting stock. 600k? Pft. That's nothing.
 
yep, i knew it was a mistake when my dad told me he sold his apple shares. oh well, at least i got my phone.
 
my prediction:

WAIT LINES WILL BE THE LONGEST IN APPLE HISTORY NEXT THURSDAY

sorry for the caps but I think its true.

On my way to get in line.... even with my pre order for the 24th

How early is everyone going? I had to go the night before for the 3G and got the last 2 16gs, the 3GS seemed easier to get went early the morning of and they still had more but sold out that day.

Good luck all
 
So the "average" person knows about 4G, but doesn't know that iPhone 4 isn't 4G? I'm calling it.

I work at an At&t device support center, and I have to explain that,

1. It's not the iPhone 4g, it's the iPhone 4.

2. It's not a 4g capable phone

every day. Multiple times, every day.
 
I know what you're saying and I'm well aware of supply chain mgmt and planning - however, I don't have a hard time believing that these numbers far exceed their expectations.

Nah, that's just false modesty.

"Far exceeded expectations," is just a nice way to say "Ya, I know, I even surprise myself with how awesome I am!"

They knew this would happen, and there is no reason for them to regret it for a second. People who couldn't log in yesterday will still end up buying phones today, and the thousands of people who were on the fence about getting one are now reading news stories about how "unprecedented" this new phone is --tipping the scales to make them want to get one now too.
 
Why did AT&T have to make almost EVERYBODY upgrade eligible for the launch day? It's nice that they gifted all those people an advance on their upgrade, but couldn't they have spread them out over the month of July?

That is what I have been saying!!! I believe that everyone who was already eligible and new gets to pre-order on June 15th. Then a week later or something, the pushed up people can order.
 
O Man block Foxconn roofs

There go the the only day off a month the employees at foxconn Had .....

faster .. i said faster assemble this things faster ...... :confused:
 
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