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UK iPhone 4 Updates: O2 Axes Unlimited Data and Announces Upgrade Offer, T-Mobile and 3 On Board
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Hmm, they've posted the new tariff's, but not the handset prices? Thanks 02, thats really helpful.
They can't give us all the bad news in one go.
I just want to know what the price is going.
Anyone got any ideas? Are we looking at £199 (16GB) or £135 as it stands with current exchange rates?
I wish to know that too. But the 3GS is same price as the new iPhone in the US so in theory we should be able to get the iPhone 4 for £89 on the 24 months £35 per month contract...
This is outrageous! AND we still have to pay for the handset?
My iPhone 3G contract was 18 months and £35/month with 600 mins/unlimited data or £45/month with 1200 mins/unlimited data.
Now, £35/month gets you just 300 mins and 500MB data on 18 month contract?
Not pleased if I also have to pay £250 or so for the 32GB model (My 2 year old 3G is 16GB and there's no way I'm getting 16GB with HD video on there!!!).
There are the other networks but I need to stick with O2 to subsidise my home broadband. Plus O2 is what I know (never had any problems with it) and I bet you all the other network prices will be the same.
Apple apparently hasn't released UK prices to carriers yet. I hope Apple releases the UK prices BEFORE the pre-order melee next Tuesday so we have time to decide what to get. And let's hope the servers don't go down this time...
My iPhone 3G contract was 18 months and £35/month with 600 mins/unlimited data or £45/month with 1200 mins/unlimited data.
Now, £35/month gets you just 300 mins and 500MB data on 18 month contract?
Not pleased if I also have to pay £250 or so for the 32GB model (My 2 year old 3G is 16GB and there's no way I'm getting 16GB with HD video on there!!!).
There are the other networks but I need to stick with O2 to subsidise my home broadband. Plus O2 is what I know (never had any problems with it) and I bet you all the other network prices will be the same.
Apple apparently hasn't released UK prices to carriers yet. I hope Apple releases the UK prices BEFORE the pre-order melee next Tuesday so we have time to decide what to get. And let's hope the servers don't go down this time...
O2's explanation for the change in data: http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2010/06/offering-fair-and-transparent-access-to-mobile-data.html
Just a take from the other side of the pond -- I'm jealous. I'm sitting here paying $75 (£54) for 400 voice min, unlimited data, and 200 text. Of course w/ free mobile to mobile and weekend calls I never use 400 min, and rarely use more than 250mb data on my phone. I'd love a 100 voice/500mb plan at half of what I'm paying now. (Assuming UK customers get free mobile to mobile and weekend calls too).
"All O2 customers will continue to receive unlimited Wi-Fi through The Cloud and BT Openzone hotspots.
Existing customers will continue under their present terms, unlimited data usage with an Excessive Use Policy."
Thank Christus for that then I have paid ol' O2 18 months for my 3GS .. and now its a top deal I am on and wil lstay on .. its the much valued ... but now defunct ....
600 mins talk time and 1200 txts a month and you can use 4 txts for video or photo messaging .. nice and unliimited internet and wi-fi for twenty quids on a Simplicity Contract on a 30 day deal .. I go tthat just after they said it was unlimited texts but 20p for video/photos.
BUT heres the quezzie, readers .. or rather two:
1) When they send me a microSim when I get the iPhone 4 .. will I keep the above conditions .. they reckon I will at the 'Help' desk
2) Wil the price of the 3GS 32Gb iPhones stabilise or worsen after the new iPhone 4 is released? Hmmm.... currently they fetch £350 on eBay RobberySite. Do I keep it til after the release or before? Hmmm .... its such a hard call innit? Ach!
By the way I agree re sh*te reception and coverage but their bills are accurate.. the dedicated iPhone Help Desk very good and at this deal you'd be mad not to stick with them
Er.. thats it.. cheers, readers ...
Existing customers will continue under their present terms, unlimited data usage with an Excessive Use Policy."
Thank Christus for that then I have paid ol' O2 18 months for my 3GS .. and now its a top deal I am on and wil lstay on .. its the much valued ... but now defunct ....
600 mins talk time and 1200 txts a month and you can use 4 txts for video or photo messaging .. nice and unliimited internet and wi-fi for twenty quids on a Simplicity Contract on a 30 day deal .. I go tthat just after they said it was unlimited texts but 20p for video/photos.
BUT heres the quezzie, readers .. or rather two:
1) When they send me a microSim when I get the iPhone 4 .. will I keep the above conditions .. they reckon I will at the 'Help' desk
2) Wil the price of the 3GS 32Gb iPhones stabilise or worsen after the new iPhone 4 is released? Hmmm.... currently they fetch £350 on eBay RobberySite. Do I keep it til after the release or before? Hmmm .... its such a hard call innit? Ach!
By the way I agree re sh*te reception and coverage but their bills are accurate.. the dedicated iPhone Help Desk very good and at this deal you'd be mad not to stick with them
Er.. thats it.. cheers, readers ...
My current O2 18 month contract which I'm now out of on my iPhone 3G: £45 per month, 1200 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited data
iPhone 4 contract: £50 a month for an 18 month contract with 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and 750Mb data limit.
How is paying more for less an upgrade exactly?
Just for 5h1ts and giggles I had a look at the HTC Desire as an upgrade, being as it's probably the closest specced Android phone to the iPhone atm;
£50 a month for 1200 minutes with unlimited texts and unlimited data plus the phone is free.
Given that 1200 minutes is about 1000 minutes more than I need a month I could get the 600 minutes package, still with a free phone, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £40 a month.
Well done O2, you've just p1ssed off a whole load of iPhone customers.
I've been with O2 since long before they were O2 - back when they were Genie, the online arm of CellNet; this was about 10 years ago. If they don't do me a seriously good deal to keep my custom I'm jumping ship to someone who will.
iPhone 4 contract: £50 a month for an 18 month contract with 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and 750Mb data limit.
How is paying more for less an upgrade exactly?
Just for 5h1ts and giggles I had a look at the HTC Desire as an upgrade, being as it's probably the closest specced Android phone to the iPhone atm;
£50 a month for 1200 minutes with unlimited texts and unlimited data plus the phone is free.
Given that 1200 minutes is about 1000 minutes more than I need a month I could get the 600 minutes package, still with a free phone, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £40 a month.
Well done O2, you've just p1ssed off a whole load of iPhone customers.
I've been with O2 since long before they were O2 - back when they were Genie, the online arm of CellNet; this was about 10 years ago. If they don't do me a seriously good deal to keep my custom I'm jumping ship to someone who will.
new article by o2's chief executive on why "unlimited data is a thing of the past"
http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2010/06/offering-fair-and-transparent-access-to-mobile-data.html
http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2010/06/offering-fair-and-transparent-access-to-mobile-data.html
Clearly not. Bandwidth is limited, but that's irrelevent. Using your previous examples, its like saying I shouldn't expect 'unlimited' water because the flow rate is limited! The reason that most people pay a fixed price for water is because it IS unlimited in the sense that H20 levels on the Earth will remain lagely the same, and what we're paying for is the delivery and processing of that water to reach our house in a hygenic form.
When we pay for data, we should expect unlimited data, regardless of BANDWIDTH, which you seem unable to grasp the fact that is irrelevent in this discussion!
Ah, always a catch eh
So how much per month if I have the phone with it? I.e. £99 for the iPhone + how much a month?
When was the last time you paid for "fair usage" for your home internet connection? With your argument, the ISP's should also charge per MB of content.
That's bollox, if that was the case why are they still oiffering it on Android phones?
Will have to. Although she doesn't check her emails as regularly since she uses Google Mail and doesn't get push notification on her iPhone unlike how I do with Yahoo Mail.
If they really wanted to go with non unlimited internet (which is a sham, it really is) then they should have put the included data at far higher amounts. If I could keep paying £45 per month for an 18 month contract with 500 or so free texts (MMS included) and keep getting 1200 minutes a month and have 2GB of data per month included then I'd be reasonably happy. The only difference between that and my current O2 iPhone contract is 2GB instead of Unlimited. That's something I could live with. Less minutes, expensive MMS and a paltry 750MB of data per month for the same cost is something I don't think I can live with.
I think the good news today is that Three will be offering the iPhone 4. They tend to have far more sensible monthly charges and allowances so hopefully O2 will quickly make these rates more reasonable.
By my reckoning, the new monthly O2 iphone data limit of 500MB is just over 11 hours of 96kbps audio.
96kb/s *60 = 5760kb/min *60 = 345,600kb/h
using an online converter, that's 42.1875MB/h
500/42.1875 = 11.85 <-- that's how many hours of 96kb/s audio you'll get in a month, and that's before browsing. 96kp/s is just an example of an average internet radio station, Spotify uses nearly twice that bit rate, at 160kbps.
I'm prepared to be told my calculations are rubbish btw, I'm no good at maths, but they seem right. I've not got a problem with caps per se, but this just doesn't seem like enough to accommodate all the features te iphone and iOS4 offer.
96kb/s *60 = 5760kb/min *60 = 345,600kb/h
using an online converter, that's 42.1875MB/h
500/42.1875 = 11.85 <-- that's how many hours of 96kb/s audio you'll get in a month, and that's before browsing. 96kp/s is just an example of an average internet radio station, Spotify uses nearly twice that bit rate, at 160kbps.
I'm prepared to be told my calculations are rubbish btw, I'm no good at maths, but they seem right. I've not got a problem with caps per se, but this just doesn't seem like enough to accommodate all the features te iphone and iOS4 offer.
"Unlimited data on all smartphone tariffs is a promotion until 1 October 2010. Excessive usage policy and terms apply, see o2.co.uk. "
It says that underneath the table of data plans. Does this not mean that if we buy an iPhone before then, we'll get unlimited data?
It says that underneath the table of data plans. Does this not mean that if we buy an iPhone before then, we'll get unlimited data?
oh dear, somebody needs to do a basic economics class, A-level or something, focussing on the concept of marginal cost..
Although switching network is an attractive idea, looking at other tariffs, you usually win on something and lose out on another.
I know orange and I think vodaphone is capped data usage so.... the choice is limited to say the least!
My current O2 18 month contract which I'm now out of on my iPhone 3G: £45 per month, 1200 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited data
iPhone 4 contract: £50 a month for an 18 month contract with 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and 750Mb data limit.
How is paying more for less an upgrade exactly?
Just for 5h1ts and giggles I had a look at the HTC Desire as an upgrade, being as it's probably the closest specced Android phone to the iPhone atm;
£50 a month for 1200 minutes with unlimited texts and unlimited data plus the phone is free.
Given that 1200 minutes is about 1000 minutes more than I need a month I could get the 600 minutes package, still with a free phone, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £40 a month.
Well done O2, you've just p1ssed off a whole load of iPhone customers.
I've been with O2 since long before they were O2 - back when they were Genie, the online arm of CellNet; this was about 10 years ago. If they don't do me a seriously good deal to keep my custom I'm jumping ship to someone who will.
I'm in the exact same boat. The new contract also doesn't give any free MMS unlike the previous ones. More money for far less services. I've been with O2 since the Genie days too - very loyal customer. Not necessarily loyal enough to get shafted on contracts though so will look forward to seeing Three and T-Mobile's contracts.
BP isn't a wholly owned British company. It 40% British 40% Merkin and 20% other. Also bear in mind the people running the rig, the sub-contractors, the people who built the cap and many of the workforce are Merkins.
BTW anyone remember Bhopal?
It's a shame the days of looking after loyal customers appear to be gone, especially in what is undoubtedly a buyer's market.
Usage
1gb a month or even 500mb is a lot I have had my iphone for almost a year now and in that time have received 2.7gb of data and sent 800mb and I use my phone a lot. so that works out about 300mb a month. To use more than 1gb a month you would need to surf all day and night. Admittedly I have wifi at home, at work and even in my local pub but 500 or a 750 just incase would be fine for me.
1gb a month or even 500mb is a lot I have had my iphone for almost a year now and in that time have received 2.7gb of data and sent 800mb and I use my phone a lot. so that works out about 300mb a month. To use more than 1gb a month you would need to surf all day and night. Admittedly I have wifi at home, at work and even in my local pub but 500 or a 750 just incase would be fine for me.
People are idiots - I use my iPhone ALL the time, and in one year have used about 2GB data ... obviously I'm a bad example to use because people will use way more than me ... HOWEVER this changes will only affect 3% of O2's customers. And unless that entire 3% use this forum, we have a lot of people here who are moaning for no reason.
Like the ridiculous complaints in yesterdays MS Office not using 64bit article comments, and the comments on pretty much every news story on every news site on the internet, the general public are once again showing that they don't know anything.
Besides - "Unlimited" data, is actually limited anyway - at least they're being honest this time.
Like the ridiculous complaints in yesterdays MS Office not using 64bit article comments, and the comments on pretty much every news story on every news site on the internet, the general public are once again showing that they don't know anything.
Besides - "Unlimited" data, is actually limited anyway - at least they're being honest this time.