UK iPhone 4S thread.

[nrfujnbfvj]

Yeah. T-Mobile do one.. http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/iphone/micro-sim/

That doesnt mention texts? do you know if there are any?

 

[MrMister111]

Well I've had a 3GS and currently have had my iPhone 4 for a year. I like to have a new phone every year if possible, but have to say was a little disappointed at the updates from my iPhone 4 to 4S. believe me I wanted it so bad to be a bigger update, but people who have 3G or 3GS, wow thats a massive update I agree.

So I may go (whispers) to Android, as I fancy a phone with a bigger screen. I'm on 3 on PAYG £15/month add on, unlimited dat enough mins+txts for me, so its hard to get a contract as good as this, so may just buy SIM free.

My iPhone 4 was bought from an Apple retail store so is unlocked, hoping to get at least £300 for it, HTC Sensation is around £380, or Sammy S2 £400 so not too much to pay.

I have an iMac, iPad 2, touch's etc so am an Apple fan but just feel there no real update for me.

I think the iPhone 5 will be a massive update though, and nothing would make me feel better than to come back to this next year

Anyone else thin same as me?

Try Android first. I have been for the last 6 months and i hate it.

Can I ask why please? Whats wrong with it? Is it software or hardware problem? What phone have you got. I'd rather stay with Apple as I have iPad 2 etc, I'll probably come back next year for iPhone 5, but interested to know what you think

cheers

 

[Deako]

Can I ask why please? Whats wrong with it? Is it software or hardware problem? What phone have you got. I'd rather stay with Apple as I have iPad 2 etc, I'll probably come back next year for iPhone 5, but interested to know what you think

cheers

Honestly, just try it. Coming from iOS i think you will be seriously disappointed unless you are the type of person that loves messing around with settings and reloading different ROMs on to the phone on a daily basis.

 

[steveza]

sorry but im a tad confused!

IF i pre order a 4S tomorrow morning as soon as apple allows direct from the apple store

can i order it as a contract with a courier and not sim free? if so can i select a carrier? - and will it give me prices of said carrier or do i just order it and hope its cheap :S

I dont want it sim free i want a brand new 24 month contract.

Looking at the Apple Store UK it appears that pre-orders are for the unlocked phones only. In store purchasers can choose a network etc.

You might be better off pre-ordering directly from the carrier of your choice or though Carphone Warehouse etc. I think the carriers will announce their pricing tomorrow ... saw an article the other day that they are still working out the pricing.

 

[Bodycalming]

I thought it was midnight

It started at 4AM PST

I have just spoken to "Brian" at the On-Line Apple Store 0800 048 0408 he told me that you can order your iPhone 4s from midnight tonight (6th Oct) or Phone sales from 8am (7th Oct) for UK purchases.

 

[psonice]

Ah, crap. Ignore that last comment of mine about t-mobile.. yes, of course, like somebody else said they merged with orange and are now the same company. My phone regularly switches to t-mobile, so I should know that by now

So yeah, it's the same deal as orange - because it is orange. With the same "quality" customer service, so no actual benefit.

 

[Daniel97]

Looking at the Apple Store UK it appears that pre-orders are for the unlocked phones only. In store purchasers can choose a network etc.

You might be better off pre-ordering directly from the carrier of your choice or though Carphone Warehouse etc. I think the carriers will announce their pricing tomorrow ... saw an article the other day that they are still working out the pricing.

thanks mate!

just need to decide now which network!

argh!

think im going to try o2!

but do i go to the o2 store or the carphone warehouse! (btw - if i go carphone warehouse will it be an unlocked iphone?)

 

[tullys]

I think it was either 8am or 9am UK time, pretty sure it wasn't midnight anyway.

I'm 99% sure it was 8AM BST (or 8:01BST) I remember cause I had my order in before everything crashed at about 8:20AM.

8AM BST is midnight PST.

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I have just spoken to "Brian" at the On-Line Apple Store 0800 048 0408 he told me that you can order your iPhone 4s from midnight tonight (6th Oct) or Phone sales from 8am (7th Oct) for UK purchases.

I think Brian might have meant to say this:

The iPhone 4S will be available in the US, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan and the UK on Friday, October 14 and customers can pre-order their iPhone 4S beginning Friday, October 7. In the U.S., the iPhone 4S will be available on AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. Apple support representatives are telling customers that pre-orders will begin online at 12:01 a.m Pacific (7:01 a.m. GMT).

I honestly think if you stay up to order at midnight, you'll just run the risk of sleeping in to order it at 8:01am BST when it actually goes on pre-order.

 

[Mr.C]

Ah, crap. Ignore that last comment of mine about t-mobile.. yes, of course, like somebody else said they merged with orange and are now the same company. My phone regularly switches to t-mobile, so I should know that by now

So yeah, it's the same deal as orange - because it is orange. With the same "quality" customer service, so no actual benefit.

Orange and T-Mobile have not merged and are not the same company. They are two separate businesses who share the same cell towers. In other words they have access to each others cell towers for their customers.

 

[jordanogrady]

I hope people don't mind me posting this on the thread, but it is iPhone related..

I don't want another 24 month contract, so i'm working out the cheapest, best way of keeping up with the new releases....

I was thinking a 12 month sim only contract could be the way forward, and purchasing the phone from the Apple shop direct! Here are the price comparisons i've worked out from o2....

Oh and Apple have released the 4s prices, £499 for 16gb, £599 for 32gb, and £699 for 64gb.... so....

12 months SIM only contract...
£21 per month.
500mb data
600 minutes
unlimited texts
total cost £258 per year..
Phone cost £599 32gb
Total £857

As apposed to (based on iphone 4 NOT 4s) prices on o2
£42 per month
600 minutes
unlimited texts
500mb data
phone cost £243.99
over 18 months the cost would be £1000

Any help advice on this guys? I can't find a 12 month contract to compare!

Thanks.
Jordan

 

[twadams]

Is anyone able to clarify for me weather or not I will be able to pre-order online for an in store pick up?

I'm at uni at the moment and I don't really want it just being delivered to the reception of my college where basically anyone could pick it up (they aren't too hot on checking you are who you say you are).

 

[fat jez]

Orange and T-Mobil have not merged and are not the same company. They are two separate businesses who share the same cell towers. In other words they have access to each others cell towers for their customers.

Actually, that is not strictly speaking correct. Orange and T-Mobile in the UK are both owned by Everything Everywhere. Everything Everywhere is jointly owned by France Telecom and T-Mobile. They are currently in the process of merging the networks and infrastructure. Presently, T-Mobile and 3 share the same 3G radio network and customers of Orange and T-Mobile can roam onto each others 2G networks.

I work for one of Everything Everywhere's suppliers and am an ex-Orange employee.

 

[KevinM2]

Is anyone able to clarify for me weather or not I will be able to pre-order online for an in store pick up?

I'm at uni at the moment and I don't really want it just being delivered to the reception of my college where basically anyone could pick it up (they aren't too hot on checking you are who you say you are).

Yes, I'd like to know this too.

I am at work on Friday 14th, but can get to my "local" Apple store by 2pm.

I would ideally like to pre-order a SIM free 16Gb White 4s tomorrow morning for me to collect from my Apple store, in person, on the 14th.

Also, if I can pre-order it this way, do you pay for it when you pre-order it, or when you collect it?

Thanks.

 

[tullys]

Yes, I'd like to know this too.

I am at work on Friday 14th, but can get to my "local" Apple store by 2pm.

I would ideally like to pre-order a SIM free 16Gb White 4s tomorrow morning for me to collect from my Apple store, in person, on the 14th.

Also, if I can pre-order it this way, do you pay for it when you pre-order it, or when you collect it?

Thanks.

Based on last year...when you pre-order for in-store pickup, you pay nothing, you just specify which colour and size, it's not really a pre-order just a reservation. I did this last year and paid nothing upfront. IIRC you are just reserving a physical phone and can choose carrier/plan or buy-out-right when you get to the store (or get to the front of the reservation queue).

In contrast pre-order for delivery, was buy-out-right only and you (obviously) had to pay for it.

If you can get to a store it gives you an option to bank a phone before finding out the final tariffs from the carriers (which last year were still being published on the release day) and deciding if you're going to buy or take out a contract.

Hope this helps.

 

[Rasta4i]

I hope people don't mind me posting this on the thread, but it is iPhone related..

I don't want another 24 month contract, so i'm working out the cheapest, best way of keeping up with the new releases....

I was thinking a 12 month sim only contract could be the way forward, and purchasing the phone from the Apple shop direct! Here are the price comparisons i've worked out from o2....

Oh and Apple have released the 4s prices, £499 for 16gb, £599 for 32gb, and £699 for 64gb.... so....

12 months SIM only contract...
£21 per month.
500mb data
600 minutes
unlimited texts
total cost £258 per year..
Phone cost £599 32gb
Total £857

As apposed to (based on iphone 4 NOT 4s) prices on o2
£42 per month
600 minutes
unlimited texts
500mb data
phone cost £243.99
over 18 months the cost would be £1000

Any help advice on this guys? I can't find a 12 month contract to compare!

Thanks.
Jordan

That sim only deal is a little bit expensive, I'm sure you can find something cheaper. My deal was a special offer that is not currently available but it will be again soon.
T-Mobile 12 months sim only
600 minutes
500 texts
unlimited internet or so they say
I also added a t mobile unlimited calls booster for 5.10p so I'm paying about 12:82 for it all before the booster it was about 7:72 as they were doing a deal where they discount the normal tariff by 7:50 or something like that...

 

[Phycoduck]

Actually, that is not strictly speaking correct. Orange and T-Mobile in the UK are both owned by Everything Everywhere. Everything Everywhere is jointly owned by France Telecom and T-Mobile. They are currently in the process of merging the networks and infrastructure. Presently, T-Mobile and 3 share the same 3G radio network and customers of Orange and T-Mobile can roam onto each others 2G networks.

I work for one of Everything Everywhere's suppliers and am an ex-Orange employee.

Whats it like working for MBNL?

 

[MrMister111]

Can I ask why please? Whats wrong with it? Is it software or hardware problem? What phone have you got. I'd rather stay with Apple as I have iPad 2 etc, I'll probably come back next year for iPhone 5, but interested to know what you think

cheers

Honestly, just try it. Coming from iOS i think you will be seriously disappointed unless you are the type of person that loves messing around with settings and reloading different ROMs on to the phone on a daily basis.

I don't mind messing I really don't, its part of the fun 9to me anyway!). Regarding ROMS, I'm not bothered on putting different ROMs on there just to try, updates of rate OS ye, but I'll stick to official updates.

Whats the OS like though compared to iOS, just as smooth, all stuff in there, multitasking, rotation lock, music in background, Web browsing etc?

cheers

 

[lukepowell1988]

do giffgaff do micro sims?

if i decide to leave how easy is it to get my pac as i cant actually phone them ?

 

[KevinM2]

Based on last year...when you pre-order for in-store pickup, you pay nothing, you just specify which colour and size, it's not really a pre-order just a reservation. I did this last year and paid nothing upfront. IIRC you are just reserving a physical phone and can choose carrier/plan or buy-out-right when you get to the store (or get to the front of the reservation queue).

In contrast pre-order for delivery, was buy-out-right only and you (obviously) had to pay for it.

If you can get to a store it gives you an option to bank a phone before finding out the final tariffs from the carriers (which last year were still being published on the release day) and deciding if you're going to buy or take out a contract.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for that. Would rather have it delivered, after hearing stories of 6 hour waits in line for the 4 last year

Maybe I'll see if a neighbour can wait in my house for me until I get home on the 14th.

At least I know which size and colour I am wanting, so should be fairly straight forward.

Cheers,
Kevin.

 

[jordanogrady]

That sim only deal is a little bit expensive, I'm sure you can find something cheaper. My deal was a special offer that is not currently available but it will be again soon.
T-Mobile 12 months sim only
600 minutes
500 texts
unlimited internet or so they say
I also added a t mobile unlimited calls booster for 5.10p so I'm paying about 12:82 for it all before the booster it was about 7:72 as they were doing a deal where they discount the normal tariff by 7:50 or something like that...

T-mobile now, is the same price! Roughly!

12 month contract, 600 minutes, internet booster (500mb limit), unlimited text, £20.42 per month! This is the same as o2....
Maybe its the fact that I need unlimited texts, and internet?

 

[leowyatt]

That sim only deal is a little bit expensive, I'm sure you can find something cheaper. My deal was a special offer that is not currently available but it will be again soon.
T-Mobile 12 months sim only
600 minutes
500 texts
unlimited internet or so they say
I also added a t mobile unlimited calls booster for 5.10p so I'm paying about 12:82 for it all before the booster it was about 7:72 as they were doing a deal where they discount the normal tariff by 7:50 or something like that...

You could try these with GiffGaff (O2):

12 months SIM only contract...
£15 per month.
400 minutes
unlimited data
unlimited texts
total cost £180 per year..
Phone cost £599 32gb
Total £779

or Even

12 months SIM only contract...
£10 per month.
250 minutes
unlimited data
unlimited texts
total cost £120 per year..
Phone cost £599 32gb
Total £719

 

[fat jez]

Whats it like working for MBNL?

I dunno, I've never worked for MBNL

I left Orange about 5 years ago, before all the Operational outsourcing began.

 

[ct2k7]

So, with a pricing of

16GB £499.00
32GB £599.00
64GB £699.00

Which one are you getting? I'm going 32GB this time.

 

[bryanjc]

I have just spoken to "Brian" at the On-Line Apple Store 0800 048 0408 he told me that you can order your iPhone 4s from midnight tonight (6th Oct) or Phone sales from 8am (7th Oct) for UK purchases.

midnight tonight you say......................

 

[SimonTheSoundMa]

I know last year O2 were only allowing upgrades on launch and not new contracts, does anyone know if Orange and 3 were the same?

3 last year did not sell the iPhone 4 straight away, they started selling them a couple of months after launch.

if i decide to leave how easy is it to get my pac as i cant actually phone them ?

Just phone your operator's customer service line, they HAVE to give it you on request. No point in doing it now, as they expire after a short time.