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32GB Grey still preparing but payment has been taken.

Ordered via the app on the 20th at 00:00

This does mean that the eBay phones have now just lost all their value. So Rasssppppppp! to all those profiteers who bought today :p
 
Yay! Finally got one. Walked into the CPW store near work. Had them in stock and so walked out with a 32GB Space Grey 20 mins later. Now to cancel my Apple order.

Was CPW on Fenchurch Street in case anyone's interested.
 
You can bet your bottom dollar that is exactly what people would be saying if hordes of white people queued up in an Asian country.

This isn't a white country. Enough of this please. It has no relevance whatsoever to what they're doing of this post so by bringing it up is not cool
 
Yay! Finally got one. Walked into the CPW store near work. Had them in stock and so walked out with a 32GB Space Grey 20 mins later. Now to cancel my Apple order.

Was CPW on Fenchurch Street in case anyone's interested.

Do they sell them unlocked and sim free?
 
All,
i think you need to lower expectations.

1) We have ordered with a precise expectation of shipping estimates, and as far as they will be respected, we have no right of complaining.

2) Why should Apple deliver to us earlier than promised, us who have comfortably ordered from our sofa, rather then supplying as much stock to satisfy people who wait in queue for 1 hour? Not only it is fair, but it obviously makes a lot of sense marketing-wise.

3) True, the whole scalpers thing is pissing to say the least. But, we must admit, how can you refuse to sell customers who have waited in line because you "think" they are scalpers? How do you legally prove it? Can you imagine the mess? No doubt someone would immediately sue or put up some BS, and we would have hundreds of legitimate customers being sent away by mistake. Imagine the mess. I figure the only way could be to have every single customer ID registered in the system, and then lotted for like 2 phones max each 10 days or something like that. But we must admit, it's not something as straitghforward as saying "Apple should ship to us not scalpers".

4) They're already shipping in US? So what? They have been given different timings and they are respecting them so far. Do you think this is not fair? I'm Italian (frequent UK traveller so ordered there), we don't even have the possibility to order here and we stupidly are one of the biggest smartphone markets in the planet, do i have to feel discriminated? I don't. I don't like it, but i also don't like that i have to pay the phone 700eur instead of 200eur, nothing is perfect.

Net, back to refreshing the order page, and if they don't ship on or before the 10 business days quoted i will sue them :)
 
Don't be an Apple apologist.

On another note it seems it doesn't matter what time you ordered. Only the batch you're in matters.
 
No change on my 16gb silver one

Wondering if I should have gone 32 now too. I have 32 on my 4s and using 17gb but 8! of that is "other" data. Think setting up from backup for several generations has caused some gumf in there. Planning to set up from new and if it gets full swap it
 
I ordered at 12:01 and mine (64GB Black) has moved to preparing for shipment now. No change in delivery date though.
 
All,
i think you need to lower expectations... (snip)

I think the point is that most people were of a reasonable expectation (based on previous launches) that buying direct from Apple would be the quickest way of getting an iPhone 5S. Sure, the initial order dates were a disappointment, but what people are getting annoyed about is that people who ordered later, from elsewhere, have already got them. I think most people expected Apple to look after their loyalist customers a bit better when allocating their initial stock.
 
I think the point is that most people were of a reasonable expectation (based on previous launches) that buying direct from Apple would be the quickest way of getting an iPhone 5S. Sure, the initial order dates were a disappointment, but what people are getting annoyed about is that people who ordered later, from elsewhere, have already got them. I think most people expected Apple to look after their customers a bit better when allocating their initial stock.

Not right. They can buy it from Ebay or the likes at higher prices, or with contracts from somewhere else and then go through a bit of loopholes.
And, if ANYONE thinks going this route is more convenient, why on earth people just don't do it and instead wait for Apple to ship? It simply means that most of us prefer to wait rather then go through the alternative options, and we don't do it out of loyalty, we do it because we think it's more comfortable. Which means that it's entirely on us and we can choose.
 
All,
i think you need to lower expectations.

1) We have ordered with a precise expectation of shipping estimates, and as far as they will be respected, we have no right of complaining.

2) Why should Apple deliver to us earlier than promised, us who have comfortably ordered from our sofa, rather then supplying as much stock to satisfy people who wait in queue for 1 hour? Not only it is fair, but it obviously makes a lot of sense marketing-wise.

3) True, the whole scalpers thing is pissing to say the least. But, we must admit, how can you refuse to sell customers who have waited in line because you "think" they are scalpers? How do you legally prove it? Can you imagine the mess? No doubt someone would immediately sue or put up some BS, and we would have hundreds of legitimate customers being sent away by mistake. Imagine the mess. I figure the only way could be to have every single customer ID registered in the system, and then lotted for like 2 phones max each 10 days or something like that. But we must admit, it's not something as straitghforward as saying "Apple should ship to us not scalpers".

4) They're already shipping in US? So what? They have been given different timings and they are respecting them so far. Do you think this is not fair? I'm Italian (frequent UK traveller so ordered there), we don't even have the possibility to order here and we stupidly are one of the biggest smartphone markets in the planet, do i have to feel discriminated? I don't. I don't like it, but i also don't like that i have to pay the phone 700eur instead of 200eur, nothing is perfect.

Net, back to refreshing the order page, and if they don't ship on or before the 10 business days quoted i will sue them :)

Interesting thoughts, but surely there are some gripes for the UK orders going straight to a 7-10 day wait, even though the US and maybe others were straight in at 1-3 days?

Some of us have no choice but to order from our sofa, due to mobility problems, and if i could have got to a store and waited for how long, i too would have been hacked off at scalpers, who in my eyes, are extracting the urine, but taking the the chances of legitimate users and purchasers, just to make a quick profit.

Apple could use Apple ID's, accounts, whatever to try and reduce the scalpers getting in there, but they choose to ignore it so that they can get numbers into the stores. Tim Cook even said that he wanted more foot traffic in stores, which could be why the dispatch times are so long for certain countries perhaps?
 
Not right. They can buy it from Ebay or the likes at higher prices, or with contracts from somewhere else and then go through a bit of loopholes.
And, if ANYONE thinks going this route is more convenient, why on earth people just don't do it and instead wait for Apple to ship? It simply means that most of us prefer to wait rather then go through the alternative options, and we don't do it out of loyalty, we do it because we think it's more comfortable. Which means that it's entirely on us and we can choose.

And just moved to "preparing for shipment" by the way...
 
My 64gb Silver has switched to preparing to ship however I've also ordered one from CPW to do the three unlocking trick on....

I phone CPW to cancel that order but they have no reference of it on their systems, apparently you get two emails when you order a device (I've only got 1)

So what do I do? See which one arrives first (if the CPW one arrives at all) or cancel the apple one and hope the CPW one arrives??

Why are things never easy :)
 
Just walked into the Apple store in Birmingham at 3pm and picked up a 32gb Grey. They got 32/64gb in Grey in stock.
 
Mine still says "processing" (32GB Silver). Just checked my bank account and no charge has been made either...

(Ordered 00:03 last Friday)
 
Interesting thoughts, but surely there are some gripes for the UK orders going straight to a 7-10 day wait, even though the US and maybe others were straight in at 1-3 days?

Some of us have no choice but to order from our sofa, due to mobility problems, and if i could have got to a store and waited for how long, i too would have been hacked off at scalpers, who in my eyes, are extracting the urine, but taking the the chances of legitimate users and purchasers, just to make a quick profit.

Apple could use Apple ID's, accounts, whatever to try and reduce the scalpers getting in there, but they choose to ignore it so that they can get numbers into the stores. Tim Cook even said that he wanted more foot traffic in stores, which could be why the dispatch times are so long for certain countries perhaps?

Of course they want people queuing in the stores, but they would be crazy if they didn't!!! It's one of the most powerful marketing tool they have, and after all they are a business, as much as we can love or hate them.

And i'm not "happy" that it's taking so long, but i was told it upfront, i had alternatives, and so does anyone who can order from CPW. What are we complaining about? If the alternative is so good, just go for it!

On the scalpers thing, i think everyone here is underestimating the actual complexity to put up such a system, make it operational and efficient in store. I hope we all realize that if even ONE "legitimate" customer get refused, and mistakes DO HAPPEN, it would be in the front page of every newspaper and we would all be shouting at how terrible Apple is.
 
Yeah, finally. :)
Ordered an Orange to EE upgrade with 64GB Space Grey iPhone 5s two days ago online. Yesterday got an email that due to high demand, expect delivery in 30 days :eek:. However, got a text now from UK mail that phone will be delivered tomorrow (Saturday). :D Could not be a better weekend! Waiting for delivery tomorrow. It's going be a loooong night. :apple:
 
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