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UK iPhone 5s and 5c Thread

Theydonboi said:
Complete nonsense. CPW are selling sim-free iPhones. You know; what Apple are selling. And CPW are IN STOCK. I just don't fancy paying £50 extra for the privilege. Sorry to be blunt, but get your facts straight.


As above. CPW selling sim-free phones. The end.
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Theydonboi said:
CPW are "sim-free" because they don't come with a sim. That's all "sim-free" means.

It means nothing to me whether it would lock to the first network of the sim I put in it. I have a nano sim ready to go. It wouldn't be locked, I wouldn't need to unlock it, so vannibombonato's point is meaningless [to me and plenty others].
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You shouldn't be so arrogant in your ignorance.

The industry definition of simfree has always been "unlocked and able to use any sim", CPW changed this to catch people out when they started to sell "contract free" locked handsets at full price. I used to work for a distributor (and 2 networks), and we used to send "simfree price lists" out to our dealers monthly, this was different to network pricing for locked handsets.

CPW dont sell genuine sim free phones, they sell locked stock that allows you to choose network lock on sim insertion.

They do not sell the same simfree/unlocked product that Apple Stores sell.
 
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vannibombonato said:
ROTFL.
1) CPW sell iphones which are not unlocked, and you need to invest time and money in order to arrive to a fully unlocked iphone like the one people are waiting for to be shipped by Apple. Which is why they are all waiting for your info. Get some facts straight before posting other crap.
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I need to invest time and money to arrive to a fully unlock iPhone? Why? Why would I want to do that? I've had every iPhone since the first one.I've never needed to swap my sim. It's an irrelevance to me. Like lots of other people.

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2) On the store management, you think that a policy like the one you suggest would work? 2 options, you either have no clue on how a store or a business can be managed or...the other one i can't say. In order to prevent scalping they would have to heavily invest time in resources in a 100% safe process, your idea would get them sued in the USA in less then 3 mins...and you would be here whining on how stupid they are..."hey employees, use some common sense and sell iphones to proper customers, not scalpers. by the way, scalpers generally look asian so be aware, question them a bit, maybe question them on why do they really really really want to give us 700 quids for our product"
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I'll spell this out. Maybe file this away if you need some clues how to run a store of business in a week when employees are handing out tickets to ensure a "two per customer" maximum:

1. Customer takes two tickets for phone.
2. Customer buys two phones. Gets back in queue.

Should Apple employee hand two more tickets to customer?

YES/NO

Keep rolling on the floor. Please stay there. Your points are irrelevant and I'm sick of talking to you.
 
My order status changed too!! Preparing for dispatch!!!!!!!!!!! Received my order confirmation at 12:10am for 16gb gold
 
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No sign of movement yet on a 32GB gold and 32GB silver, both ordered just after midnight.
 
Theydonboi said:
CPW are "sim-free" because they don't come with a sim. That's all "sim-free" means.

It means nothing to me whether it would lock to the first network of the sim I put in it. I have a nano sim ready to go. It wouldn't be locked, I wouldn't need to unlock it, so vannibombonato's point is meaningless [to me and plenty others].
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So a locked phone is the same product of an unlocked one? So CPW is selling the same stuff Apple is selling? Try selling it on Ebay and have a check on who gets the highest price.

The fact that it's meaningless for YOU for the phone to be locked it's like saying that Apple are a bunch of idiots because since YOU use your iphone only for the apps, they put a useless phone in it. Which is something rather not so smart to say.
 
Quick 4G question:

The specs for the UK models of the 5S on the Apple website (link was in a post a few pages back) show that it is not compatible with the 800 MHz frequency,
That is what O2 are using for 4G.

I'm assuming I've missed something, as that would imply the 5S won't work on O2 4G..
 
vannibombonato said:
So a locked phone is the same product of an unlocked one? So CPW is selling the same stuff Apple is selling? Try selling it on Ebay and have a check on who gets the highest price.

The fact that it's meaningless for YOU for the phone to be locked it's like saying that Apple are a bunch of idiots because since YOU use your iphone only for the apps, they put a useless phone in it. Which is something rather not so smart to say.
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The fact of the matter : People who ordered through Apple in the first five minutes of it going on sale have spent £40-£60 more to buy through CPW because THEY have stock, while Apple don't. Forget whether it's going to be locked to the next sim card they use. People clearly want the phone now and not everyone sticks their stuff on eBay.

Do you think this is a good thing? Apple have caused people to chase their product to another site where they're having to pay more money because that's where the stock is?

Whether it's the same product is actually an irrelevance. Why is there stock of locked phones and not unlocked phones? It basically just bounces back to Apple and them screwing up this launch.
 
Theydonboi said:
I'll spell this out. Maybe file this away if you need some clues how to run a store of business in a week when employees are handing out tickets to ensure a "two per customer" maximum:

1. Customer takes two tickets for phone.
2. Customer buys two phones. Gets back in queue.

Should Apple employee hand two more tickets to customer?

YES/NO

Keep rolling on the floor. Please stay there. Your points are irrelevant and I'm sick of talking to you.
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Wow, how smart.
And how exactly are they supposed to avoid people queuing on and on and on? checking ids? you mean those ids which are so incredibly difficult to have with a different name? you mean that apple employees suddenly becomes interrogators checking for fake ids? I had 3 different fake ids while i was a kid in the USA, and i made them myself in less than an hour at home. And what then, the name is placed into some kind of automagically appeared database linked to all the apple stores around that the apple employee can oh-so-rapidly check while giving the tickets? What a fantastic system you have thought, or wait! They could place some kind of passport control checks like the ones you have at the airport, that would be so easy and pleasing for the customers, that's an idea. Or retina scans, easy stuff like that.

Go back whining and waiting for your unlocked iphone.
 
it seems all the space greys and 16gb silver and gold are preparing to dispatch.


I think the 32gb & 64gb silver/gold are going to be the rarest, most sought after.:)
 
vannibombonato said:
Wow, how smart.
And how exactly are they supposed to avoid people queuing on and on and on? checking ids? you mean those ids which are so incredibly difficult to have with a different name? you mean that apple employees suddenly becomes interrogators checking for fake ids? I had 3 different fake ids while i was a kid in the USA, and i made them myself in less than an hour at home. And what then, the name is placed into some kind of automagically appeared database linked to all the apple stores around that the apple employee can oh-so-rapidly check while giving the tickets? What a fantastic system you have thought, or wait! They could place some kind of passport control checks like the ones you have at the airport, that would be so easy and pleasing for the customers, that's an idea. Or retina scans, easy stuff like that.

Go back whining and waiting for your unlocked iphone.
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I think they should also add some TSA-style Screening Machines just to be safe on the safe side. Would only improve the customer experience. :D
 
Doc Evils said:
it seems all the space greys and 16gb silver and gold are preparing to dispatch.


I think the 32gb & 64gb silver/gold are going to be the rarest, most sought after.:)
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Problem will be that they need to manufacture the gold cases before they can assemble the phones themselves. That means that there might have been a couple of days' lag while the production lines either ramped up or were swapped from one finish to another and enough quantities produced.
 
Moccasin said:
Problem will be that they need to manufacture the gold cases before they can assemble the phones themselves. That means that there might have been a couple of days' lag while the production lines either ramped up or were swapped from one finish to another and enough quantities produced.
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Yeah and they probably didn't gauge exactly which model would be the best seller and obviously also put a lot into producing C models which aren't selling as well initially as they had hoped.

Given how easily the Space Grey models have been available in comparison, they obviously felt it would be the most sought after.

Its buried way back in the thread now, but somebody posted some notes they had made from one of the London stores on which models had the most interest from people waiting. 64GB Gold was the most sought after.
 
Wow it's all getting a bit heated, and just when apple have started to ship their phones too.

Anyway following my 4:00 pm order from CPW I've had a txt from DPD to confirm that my 64 gig grey 5s will be with me tomorrow morning. Same price as Apple, my giffgaff sim is ready to go and can't see me wanting to change any time soon.

Happy day...

Apple order was cancelled about an hour before they started to ship.
 
Holte139 said:
No movement on my 16GB gold yet, checked my online banking too and there doesn't seem to be a problem. Haven't received any phone calls or text alerts today either.
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be patient, am sure there are workers quickly painting some silver phones with gold paint as I type :).
 
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