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Which iPhone Are You Ordering?

  • iPhone 17

    Votes: 20 6.3%
  • iPhone Air - Sky Blue

    Votes: 14 4.4%
  • iPhone Air - Light Gold

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • iPhone Air - Cloud White

    Votes: 17 5.3%
  • iPhone Air - Space Black

    Votes: 13 4.1%
  • iPhone Pro - Cosmic Orange

    Votes: 27 8.5%
  • iPhone Pro - Deep Blue

    Votes: 34 10.7%
  • iPhone Pro - Silver

    Votes: 23 7.2%
  • iPhone Pro Max - Cosmic Orange

    Votes: 56 17.6%
  • iPhone Pro Max - Deep Blue

    Votes: 58 18.2%
  • iPhone Pro Max - Silver

    Votes: 40 12.5%
  • Still Undecided ???

    Votes: 12 3.8%

  • Total voters
    319
I feel like the Air is getting a slightly bad rap.

Yes it has only got one camera, but it’s still a good single camera and the one most people probably use most.

Yes it lacks RAW and Prores video capture, so anyone who actually uses those features will obviously not want it. But how many consumers (or even prosumers) do?

It has ProMotion, Always On, the same tiny bezels, a 3000nits brightness screen, the new Ceramic Shield both sides and the same upgraded front camera as the Pros.

Its battery equals the battery of last year’s regular Pro, which was already the best ever for that size.

It’s also a Goldilocks size, between the size of a Pro and Pro Max.

I question how much of a difference in real world use single vs dual speakers makes to most people.

It’s the thinnest iPhone ever and the most durable too. It also is the cleanest design and most premium, arguably, since the iPhone 14 Pro.

It’s certainly not a joke or to be dismissed lightly, especially given the new Pros are the chunkiest iPhones ever, and have a very questionable back design, reverting to cheaper aluminium, not seen on the top end models since iPhone 7.

The fact it doesn’t have the ability to turn off the PWM on the screen like the Pro made the decision easy. Let alone only a mono speaker and its other compromises. Once I got over the wow of its design I know I would be annoyed by the compromises in its functionality.
 
The horrendous flicker that you get with OLED screens, it affects people like me causing eye strain, headaches etc. Some people it can be completely debilitating.
Wow, literally never encountered this in my life. Does it happen when doing something specific?
 
Let alone only a mono speaker and its other compromises. Once I got over the wow of its design I know I would be annoyed by the compromises in its functionality.
The speaker concern is valid - the last iPhone to have a single speaker was the iPhone 6S - I just question how important that is for most people.

For me I use the speaker occasionally for loudspeaker calls or to watch videos on social media etc and not sure I’ll particularly notice or care enough about the difference. I use my AirPods the majority of the time anyway.

The pull to a Steve Jobs era of design is higher than losing stereo sound from the loudspeaker - or at least that’s how I feel now.

I’ll return and exchange immediately after purchase or in December when the 90 day switch up window ends with my carrier if I end up missing any feature that didn’t make the Air.
 
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Wow, literally never encountered this in my life. Does it happen when doing something specific?
This is a full detail about PWN from google:

How PWM works
  • Instead of reducing the power to the LEDs to make the screen dimmer, PWM rapidly turns them on and off at different frequencies.
  • The ratio of on-time to off-time determines the perceived brightness: a higher on-time ratio creates a brighter image, while a lower on-time ratio creates a dimmer image.
Why it's a concern for some users

  • Flicker can be noticeable:
    While imperceptible at high brightness levels, the rapid on/off cycles become more obvious at lower brightness settings, leading to a visible flicker.
  • Eye strain and headaches:
    For people who are sensitive to this flicker, it can cause eye fatigue, headaches, dizziness, and even nausea.
  • Impact on sleep:
    Using a phone with low PWM frequency at night, when screens are already dim, can be particularly problematic and may negatively affect sleep quality.
What are the solutions?

  • Higher PWM frequencies:
    Brands are implementing higher PWM frequencies (e.g., 480Hz, 1920Hz, or even 2160Hz) to reduce the flicker effect and make the display more comfortable for sensitive eyes.
  • DC dimming:
    Some phones use DC dimming, a different technology that directly adjusts the current to the LEDs to control brightness without flickering.
  • IPS LCD displays:
    Phones with IPS LCD displays often do not use PWM for dimming and can be a good alternative for those sensitive to PWM flicker.
  • Identifying phones with high-frequency PWM:
    Manufacturers like Honor, OnePlus, and Xiaomi are known for offering phones with high PWM rates, while Apple and Google have been increasing their PWM frequencies in their latest models.

 
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Ok .. it’s the pro max then. I love the orange (helped by the fact I’m an F1 McClaren fan!) but will go with the blue. Pre pre ordered that along with the blue case (which I’m not sure I’ll keep as it looks too textured for me)
Have also ordered the APP3 and Series 11 watch.
Hoping they don’t release an iPad mini that does something new before Christmas!!
 
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This is a full detail about PWN from google:

How PWM works
  • Instead of reducing the power to the LEDs to make the screen dimmer, PWM rapidly turns them on and off at different frequencies.
  • The ratio of on-time to off-time determines the perceived brightness: a higher on-time ratio creates a brighter image, while a lower on-time ratio creates a dimmer image.
Why it's a concern for some users

  • Flicker can be noticeable:
    While imperceptible at high brightness levels, the rapid on/off cycles become more obvious at lower brightness settings, leading to a visible flicker.
  • Eye strain and headaches:
    For people who are sensitive to this flicker, it can cause eye fatigue, headaches, dizziness, and even nausea.
  • Impact on sleep:
    Using a phone with low PWM frequency at night, when screens are already dim, can be particularly problematic and may negatively affect sleep quality.
What are the solutions?

  • Higher PWM frequencies:
    Brands are implementing higher PWM frequencies (e.g., 480Hz, 1920Hz, or even 2160Hz) to reduce the flicker effect and make the display more comfortable for sensitive eyes.
  • DC dimming:
    Some phones use DC dimming, a different technology that directly adjusts the current to the LEDs to control brightness without flickering.
  • IPS LCD displays:
    Phones with IPS LCD displays often do not use PWM for dimming and can be a good alternative for those sensitive to PWM flicker.
  • Identifying phones with high-frequency PWM:
    Manufacturers like Honor, OnePlus, and Xiaomi are known for offering phones with high PWM rates, while Apple and Google have been increasing their PWM frequencies in their latest models.
Wow very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Must be one of those things I’m lucky not to experience. Never had a problem with any OLED iPhone.

I do however have a problem which prevents me being able to use Apple Watch - put any Apple Watch on my wrist and within 5 minutes my hand, then entire arm, starts to go numb. It’s like a dull ache which is actually quite painful and very uncomfortable.

Removing the Watch relieves the symptoms. Must be a vein reacting to a sensor or something. But such is life.

Glad they’ve added a feature to the Pros to resolve it for you!!
 
Wow very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Must be one of those things I’m lucky not to experience. Never had a problem with any OLED iPhone.

I do however have a problem which prevents me being able to use Apple Watch - put any Apple Watch on my wrist and within 5 minutes my hand, then entire arm, starts to go numb. It’s like a dull ache which is actually quite painful and very uncomfortable.

Removing the Watch relieves the symptoms. Must be a vein reacting to a sensor or something. But such is life.

Glad they’ve added a feature to the Pros to resolve it for you!!
I never had issues either with screen flicker.

But interesting about the watch and what causes you, didn’t know such thing could happen..
 
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I never had issues either with screen flicker.

But interesting about the watch and what causes you, didn’t know suck thing could happen..
Yeah, it’s very rare from the sounds of it - I did find some others online reporting similar.

The consensus seemed to be something to do with a vein on the wrist. Apple suggested wearing the watch higher up my wrist - as if 🤣

I prefer traditional watches anyway so not too bummed about it. But interesting nonetheless. Honestly - within half an hour my entire arm goes half-numb with a very uncomfortable dull ache throughout. Wild!
 
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Yeah, it’s very rare from the sounds of it - I did find some others online reporting similar.

The consensus seemed to be something to do with a vein on the wrist. Apple suggested wearing the watch higher up my wrist - as if 🤣

I prefer traditional watches anyway so not too bummed about it. But interesting nonetheless. Honestly - within half an hour my entire arm goes half-numb with a very uncomfortable dull ache throughout. Wild!
I understand completely, I love my mechanical watch's, however, is not something I could wear to my work, not a suitable environment or would fit in with what I do, hence why use an Apple watch for work and normal watch on day to day personal life.
 
I understand completely, I love my mechanical watch's, however, is not something I could wear to my work, not a suitable environment or would fit in with what I do, hence why use an Apple watch for work and normal watch on day to day personal life.
It’s a shame as I’d like the fitness tracking, but the new AirPods Pro can do quite a bit of that - and I’ve used Sleep Cycle on my iPhone for years.

I doubt I’ll ever be able to wear an Apple Watch due to the oddity with my wrist/vein but I’m okay with that.

If they released a round version that looked indistinguishable from a traditional watch, with a matte display, however, I might feel sad! 😔😂
 
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The Pro looks quite chunky and the back design is not doing it for me. I'm also astonished they ditched a black/dark grey option.

I think I'm going for iPhone Air and will pre-order AirPods Pro 3.

Will read through the Apple website runthroughs and give it some thought (and be in this thread seeing what you guys all think) before the decision on Friday.
Yeah, it would’ve made way more sense to have a black or dark grey instead of that blue tone. The lineup could’ve been the safe/professional colors like Silver and Black (or Dark Grey), plus the striking new flagship color Orange for those who want something adventurous—kind of like last year’s Desert Gold.

But blue is just not a good replacement for black or grey. (Personally, I can’t stand any shade of blue on my electronic devices.)
 
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Yeah, it would’ve made way more sense to have a black or dark grey instead of that blue tone. The lineup could’ve been the safe/professional colors like Silver and Black (or Dark Grey), plus the striking new flagship color Orange for those who want something adventurous—kind of like last year’s Desert Gold.

But blue is just not a good replacement for black or grey. (Personally, I can’t stand any shade of blue on my electronic devices.)
The omission of a black/dark grey colour is extremely interesting to me. It’s one of the most popular colours on the top model.

Either it’s some sort of deliberate attempt to get more people to consider the Air, or they had last minute production problems and couldn’t get the black/dark grey finish ready in time.
 
I have an iphone 16 pro max that i'm really happy with, but I really would love the apple watch ultra 3!
I’m happy with my 16 Pro Max too,it’s only 10 months old! But I keep thinking, if I don’t upgrade now and wait another year, it’ll just depreciate further and I’ll still have to pay at least £1200 on the next one. So why not take Apple’s £600 trade-in offer and enjoy the upgrade now? I’m especially interested in the new camera feature where you don’t have to rotate into landscape (I hate doing and remembering that awkward move), and the extra zoom is really nice too.
But I really wish Apple offered more generous trade-in deals, like Samsung.
 
Latest update to my orders… watch on the move and ready for the rest to move along… harry up already!!!! :D

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I was tempted by the AWU 3 but already having an AWU 2 I don't think it's worth it for that bit extra battery life. My Ultra 2 still has 100% capacity and given the new hypertension feature is also coming to the Ultra2 I think i'll stick and hold another year.

Is the new face exclusive to the ultra 3 do you know?
 
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