I'm just suggesting that things (tablets) that fill the same niche and purpose are going to evolve to be really similar with no direct copying.
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UK Judge Rules Apple Must Publish Notices Acknowledging Samsung Did Not Copy iPad
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I'm just suggesting that things (tablets) that fill the same niche and purpose are going to evolve to be really similar with no direct copying.
Samsung has been in the tablet, cellphone and TV industry for quite a few years more than Apple has. So no, unless you want to rewrite history, Samsung did not wait and wonder to see what Apple would do, they were already participating when Apple came.
I'd agree with that, but I also think there is likely to be as much copying as there will be natural convergence. Either way, none of that is bad or good inherently.
Copy copy copy copy copy. SHHHHUUUUTTTT UUUUUPPPP! 
I tell you, every other day someone does something, and someone else gets their panties in a twist and claims Apple did it first. Can't you all think of something else to talk about?
I tell you, every other day someone does something, and someone else gets their panties in a twist and claims Apple did it first. Can't you all think of something else to talk about?
It's sad that even news blog such as 9to5mac use the same idiotic picture on their posts...
Well you certainly are passionate... aren't you.
You're also making wide generalizations without a disregard for the truth. But who cares about that, right?
... So at this point I don't understand why you're arguing with me. I'm talking about UI changes and design similarities that aren't deniable.... not if their framework system changed...
And why would they change the framework? It's linux ... what's to change. It's all going to go custom anyway past the base. And iOS is Unix. So ...
Cum hoc ergo procter hoc?
That they have similarities doesn't imply that one copied the other, the iPhone has UI similarities with Symbian, does it say that it has copied Symbian?
Mmm, no, Linux is not the framework, Linux is the OS kernel, the framework is the inland API's and the core foundations and they didn't change, they were hardware agnostic since the beginning.
Sounds more like dumb luck than innovation. Steve goes on about a product he doesn't think exists. He is told something does exist. He doesn't believe it could be good enough. He is proven wrong. He orders product.
I agree - I've stayed out of this conversation until now, but I wanted to add, in case this hasn't been mentioned before.
It isn't that other manufacturers, Samsung et al, copied Apple's use of Gorilla glass, but rather Corning would have very smartly been out there selling the hell out of their product to any and all manufacturers. Something that they should be doing, unless they had signed some exclusivity deal with Apple that forbid them from doing so.
My company is currently negotiating with a customer who wants an exclusivity deal with us, so that we don't do exactly what Corning did and go to all of their competitors to sell our product. If we don't sign a deal with them, you can be sure that they and all their competitors will be "copying" each other in the coming months...
Honest question. Maybe I'm just really dumb and ill-informed but how does a UK Judge have any authority over a US based company?
Honest question. Maybe I'm just really dumb and ill-informed but how does a UK Judge have any authority over a US based company?
Since they're doing business in the UK the Apple UK branch is subject to the UK legal system.
Of course, another way to see it is not to cherry pick Rugged tablet designs, but actual designs pre-iPad that show that the iPad is just "one of the boys" :
To the dude in the last post:
The capacitive touch screens came out around the time the LG prada and iPhone came out. There were some tablet PCs that used capacitive touch screens before the iPad did come to market, and MS had a bit of touchscreen tech cooking with their surface at the same time Apple did, but I will give you this: Apple did buy that crazy surface company that was working on it years before most people bothered. Then again, the surfaces looked like this:
So I'm stuck at a crossroads here. I don't like tablets much, but I can see where all the arguing is coming from and I'm not sure what to say, or what you guys want. Do you want anything that remotely resembles a sardine can shape with a glass surface to be banned unless it was made by Apple because they invented it?
Why bother arguing with the guy?
You can never win with a fanboy as logic flies out of the window whenever he starts talking about his beloved company...
and I bet they would of sued if they had the popularity of Samsung.
Btw Apple sued a lot of companies.
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You, my friend, are an honest philosopher.
Diogenes would be proud.
:takes a bow:
Interesting question
Any court of law would have jurisdiction over any individual or company that does business there.
What I do wonder, and my apologies if this has already been raised, is if by complying with this ruling, would Apple be putting themselves in a position of self incriminating themselves in the view of the US courts? Samsung could argue that since Apple admitted to wrongdoing in the UK courts, that this could be precedent. Lawyers, Apple lawyers, your opinion?
Honest question. Maybe I'm just really dumb and ill-informed but how does a UK Judge have any authority over a US based company?
Any court of law would have jurisdiction over any individual or company that does business there.
What I do wonder, and my apologies if this has already been raised, is if by complying with this ruling, would Apple be putting themselves in a position of self incriminating themselves in the view of the US courts? Samsung could argue that since Apple admitted to wrongdoing in the UK courts, that this could be precedent. Lawyers, Apple lawyers, your opinion?