There's a collective lawsuit going on against Microsoft in Canada right now, for products that go back to 1998 - 2010.
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Unauthorized App Store Cydia Sues Apple for Anticompetitive Behavior
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By that logic, then Cydia, or any others making the same argument, should design, build, and market their own hardware platforms on which to distribute their software.
Apple isn’t stopping you from doing whatever you want to your phone.
They’re stopping you from doing whatever you want to iOS.
You own your iPhone. You own the physical brick that you’re holding in your hand. You can break it, you can open it, you can twist it, turn it, flip it, do whatever you want to it.
You don’t own iOS.
It’s just like if you buy a DVD, you technically own the disc. But you can’t do anything to the movie. You can watch it, but you can’t legally make copies of it, or re-distribute it, or manipulate it.
Are there people that do that? Of course. Just like those people that jailbreak their iPhones. That doesn’t make it OK
They’re stopping you from doing whatever you want to iOS.
You own your iPhone. You own the physical brick that you’re holding in your hand. You can break it, you can open it, you can twist it, turn it, flip it, do whatever you want to it.
You don’t own iOS.
It’s just like if you buy a DVD, you technically own the disc. But you can’t do anything to the movie. You can watch it, but you can’t legally make copies of it, or re-distribute it, or manipulate it.
Are there people that do that? Of course. Just like those people that jailbreak their iPhones. That doesn’t make it OK
Umm...
- Apps already can request access to Apple Pay and Contacts
- Whether the "rules" are unfair and monopolistic is the discussion. Apple actively prevents users from accessing other app stores. Instead of shilling, maybe present an argument why everything Apple does is legal and right.
- When did the Cydia creator ever say to blame Apple for hacking? What are you even talking about?
The open vs closed computing platform keeps coming up. You can make valid arguments either way but Apple benefits tremendously and exercises iron:grip:control the way it is. How long that will be allowed will be interesting to see. These ubiquitous mobile platforms have now grown beyond luxuries to become vital necessities. Apple prefers to have both its hardware and software design so as to be as inaccessible to others as possible. I can see why from as a business model this works very well. The question being raised is at what point of scale does their ubiquity make their practical monopoly untenable? You can understand why Apple wants to maintain as much control for as long as possible because it is the most beneficial arrangement for Apple’s business. At their scale and wealth Apple has tremendous resources to maintain their dominance through supply chains, corporate buyouts and can also afford robust legal defense battles for years of costly litigation.
That is incorrect.
They tell you what quality of fuel, not what brand.
They cannot void a warranty for putting in a part that is like and kind. They can only void the warranty for modifications after they prove the modification caused the problem (At least here in the US).
So no, you do not have to use Ford sold part in your Ford car. mind you most of the stuff, Ford doesn't even make. That's another story. But neither does BMW, etc.
They also must provide diagnostics through the OBD-II port that meets an open standard.
Their software to run the car is proprietary just like any other software platform.
Oh come on? Do you really think that teenagers, who are a high proportion of iPhone owners / users have the slightest interest in security [or are smarter]? 99% probably never were worried about the cost
The irony is, Apple could shut down iphone production and then nobody would get distribution because the platform wouldn't exist. So technically, Apple has a monopoly on iphones.
Interesting fact, Tesla has some cool apps on their cars that only work when you’re parked. There’s some movie streaming services, but the second you start to drive you can’t use them.
But why? I owned my car, shouldn’t I be able to watch movies while I’m driving? Come on Tesla, what are you thinking here. This isn’t your car, it’s mine!!!
This is how you people sound.
But why? I owned my car, shouldn’t I be able to watch movies while I’m driving? Come on Tesla, what are you thinking here. This isn’t your car, it’s mine!!!
This is how you people sound.
The only example I can see that would risk running directly foul of piracy laws is “the old Music.app.” That’s far from a “huge majority.” Here’s why your responses on the others are disingenuous at best:
- Running unsigned apps: If you don’t want to run an unsigned app, don’t run an unsigned app. Apple could even disable this by default and bury the option to enable it in Settings behind like three warning dialogs and allow the option to be disabled altogether by a supervisory figure through MDM and Screen Time restrictions.
- Use older versions of existing apps: If a user wishes to continue using an older version of software that they purchased, that should be their right. Most developers concerned about usage of old versions of their apps have the ability to disable usage of those versions through their apps’ backends (i.e., an old app version sends a request to the backend and the server rejects the request because the version is no longer supported).
- Location spoofing: This person is likely referring to overriding the physical location returned to apps through Core Location, not the country with which their IP address is associated. A VPN won’t allow that.
- Fortnite: See “use older versions of existing apps.” Existing copies of Fortnite all came from the App Store and would be FairPlay-encrypted such that only the purchaser could use it.
- Recording phone conversations: This is generally legal as long as you’re party to the conversation. Some jurisdictions do require both/all parties to be notified of or consent to the recording, though.
- Universal Picture-in-Picture: This is already possible on macOS through PiPifier, and it can be easily done on iOS as well through a JavaScript trick in a Shortcut. I have yet to see Google sue Apple over that.
True. That's what makes this with Apple 100x more frustrating. It feels like I shouldn't be paying $1000+ for a device I'm simply renting. They give us what they want, software updates that can obliterate performance or cause it to be unusable but no way to downgrade, saying you can't have any third party apps if you want to get any repairs done!
I get people talking about security but allowing Cydia doesn't mean everyone will download Cydia. Give the people who want it options. I'm on board with not allowing pirated apps but I like being able to unlock my 11 Pro Max without swiping up. Is that so hard to allow, really?
That’s my hope if Apple ever is forced to have alternative app stores. That they won’t come preloaded on it like how androids have the Google play store and their own half baked one from LG
Then nothing to be concerned about with alternative stores then? Of course, if they offered cheaper software, folks would be all over it like a rash [that's why Amazon is a wash with cheap knock-off iPhone accessories - folks want them] This is the only reason Apple lock everything to their App Store. If everyone is supposedly purposely choosing Apple for the walled-garden, privacy and security, then they wouldn't be interested in alternative stores? Of course we all know 99% of folks do not pick an iPhone for those reasons.
That’s where you’re wrong kiddo. When someone invents an item they should be able to design how it functions. I don’t understand it there are companies that make phones that are highly highly customisable why does these people not just move over to these devices instead of trying to get one specific company apple to change their invention to suit them? Same goes for people here commenting that this is a good thing and that apple should have less control over the devices it invents
Why the incredulity? It already doesn't allow pirated apps. A user has to go out of their way through unofficial channels to pirate via Cydia, and that's only possible because a user has to jailbreak their phone in order to even use Cydia thanks to Apple.
At any rate, why do you not trust yourself to install whatever software you want on your own phone? Why do you think every other iPhone user should be shackled in the same way?
No, cars have safety laws around them, to try and stop nature's rejects driving will watching a DVD
if piracy, malware, etc was really a problem Apple wanted to prevent and thus wanted to "oversee" that whole process, why is it that you can download all sorts of apps outside the app store on your Mac?