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Add $150 more for a keyboard/mouse and an extra gig of RAM.
$100 at most, assuming you pay Apple $50 for the extra gig. If you're willing to open the mini yourself, you can get 4GB for $65. Then to be fair you should upgrade the Hybrid's awful Intel graphics to match the mini's Nvidia 9400M...oops, can't do that at any price. So you end up with a mini system with superior specs for $150 more. That's not bad at all.

Face it...to only offer the MacMini as the entry level Mac is pathetic on Apple's part.
Yes, Apple should offer a reasonably priced minitower. That has no bearing on the merits of the mini as an ultra-SFF machine.

I can understand persons that buy it for small form factor, but many fans were expecting more.
Seriously, what were you expecting? It should be well established by now that the idea of consumers buying expandable headless machines is aesthetically offensive to Steve, so we're not getting the sub-$1500 Mac tower we'd both like. Given that, the upgraded mini is quite a bit better than I expected.
 
I am glad the new Mac Mini supports 2 displays. I do not want an iMac because I cannot use the monitor with a laptop and Mac Pros are expensive. I wish it had a GForce 9600m option and a faster CPU because then it would be good alongside a MacBook Pro even if it had to be a little bigger. Apple still does not make a desktop for me.
 
Does ANYONE know the max resolution output of HDMI?:confused:

It can power the ACD 30", at 2560x1600.

One more thing about HDMI, Apple would need to pay 10,000$ per year to offer it on the Mac Mini in royalty fees. Much better to let adapter makers bear that cost.

EDIT : scratch that, the 10,000$ is per manufacturer, not device, they are probably already paying it for the Apple TV anyhow.
 
One more thing about HDMI, Apple would need to pay 10,000$ per year to offer it on the Mac Mini in royalty fees. Much better to let adapter makers bear that cost.

HDMI is just rebranded DVI with a different connector and audio support. An adapter from DVI to HDMI is just a connector changer
 
It can power the ACD 30", at 2560x1600.

One more thing about HDMI, Apple would need to pay 10,000$ per year to offer it on the Mac Mini in royalty fees. Much better to let adapter makers bear that cost.

That fee is marginal compared to the money Apple pumps into their R&D and other licenses.

Anyway what IS the max resolution of HDMI? I can't seem to find an answer online other than it can power a 30" natively.
 
If they made an Mini DisplayPort to HDMI adapter would they only have to pay it once for all of their computers with Mini DisplayPort? But you can just buy a 3rd party adapter or a DVI to HDMI cable to use the included adapter. Apple hasn't included an adapter from it's proprietary ports since the iBooks. Why did they stop. the included the adapter from mini DVI to VGA and to DVI with the 12 inch PB but none for the old MacBook, unibody MacBook and unibody MacBook Pro but they included a DVI to VGA adapter with the old MacBook Pro
 
What more do you need? If it can drive the 30" display natively, that is all that is needed.

Like I said, over that is complete overkill, but some people have the mentality that they will die without the option of doing something like that.
 
Like I said, over that is complete overkill, but some people have the mentality that they will die without the option of doing something like that.

Oh well, can't please everyone I guess. As long as I can get to DVI, I can get to HDMI so I'll be happy. Don't really need the lossless audio (at least not yet). Still wondering if I should replace my 1.66 mini this fall with one of these new ones.
 
Third, the HDMI is also a sore point because it's on the AppleTV. There is no purpose to having an AppleTV when you have a MacMini. Apple purposely just makes it less convenient to make your MacMini a media center because it still sells the AppleTV, which is extremely annoying because now both products (AppleTV and MacMini) are overpriced and pieces of junk.

Because Apple forces you to buy an $8 cable, both the AppleTV and the Mac Mini are overpriced junk?

The AppleTV has an HDMI port because it's supposed to attach to a TV.

On what is intended to be a computer, an HDMI port would just require people to buy HDMI–DVI cables, probably more than are currently buying DVI–HDMI cables.
 
Hmm seems that is the uppermost limit. Not that going over that isnt complete overkill in most cases, but does anyone know off hand the max resolution of displayport?

There isn't one. It can support 8.64 Gbit/s data rate over a 2 meter cable; that's its limit.

You would have needed to type fewer letters if you had Googled that yourself, you know. :)
 
Mac Mini and Snow Leopard

Just thinking...what if a massively expensive cpu upgrade won't be necessary because of being able to leverage CL for enhanced performance.

Just saying... I remember when I had a IIGS, and the second release of the OS sped the system up to a look and feel that was twice as fast.

What if SL/OpenCL results in the same performance boost, esp on 4 gig systems.

I'm betting that's why we haven't seen huge hardware shifts - I mean you just know Apple's developers have beat the heck out of the newly released hardware with SL and it's enhancements. They must be confident in the current hardware line with the new OS coming down the pike.
 
Sorry, I've been busy and missed a lot of this thread but, single link HDMI max res is 2560x1600p75, dual link is 3840x2400 but has not been implemented into any product.

DisplayPort resolution is unlimited.
 
See above. It's present in the AppleTV which is essentially a stripped down MacMini. Another way Apple strips functionality so it can bleed more money out of fanboys.

They bleed more money out of fanboys to... make them buy a 3rd party cable/adapter which costs only a few dollars which Apple doesn't get anyways... ??? :confused: ??? I'm a bit confused here... am I missing something?
 
I haven't seen any definitive posts (with pics) that the CPU is soldered

I have a hard time believing the CPU is soldered in either since there's no real reason for it to be. The photos so far have just shown the heatsink, which look just like the old mini--there's no way to tell until someone takes off the heatsink. Or is that just my wishful thinking?

I hope iFixit gets to the CPU soon...
 
It can power the ACD 30", at 2560x1600.

One more thing about HDMI, Apple would need to pay 10,000$ per year to offer it on the Mac Mini in royalty fees. Much better to let adapter makers bear that cost.

EDIT : scratch that, the 10,000$ is per manufacturer, not device, they are probably already paying it for the Apple TV anyhow.

Good point, Apple only has about 30,000,000,000.00 dollars in the bank. I'd think 10,000.00 might really put a dent in that number.
 
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