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Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo Released

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As expected, it runs like crap on my G4 400 AGP (Rage 128), even with all the details and stuff turned off/down, and at 640x480. But man, is it pretty. Having just taken a graphics class, I now have some idea of how hard and [GC]PU intensive a lot of the things they do are, and in light of that I have to say, bravo. It's too bad the original UT OS X port isn't better; I was (foolishly) hoping UT 2003 would allow me to play a popular FPS acceptably. Ah well, just more reason to get a new computer. 🙂
 
Re: sad day

Originally posted by jg3
As expected, it runs like crap on my G4 400 AGP (Rage 128), even with all the details and stuff turned off/down, and at 640x480. But man, is it pretty. Having just taken a graphics class, I now have some idea of how hard and [GC]PU intensive a lot of the things they do are, and in light of that I have to say, bravo. It's too bad the original UT OS X port isn't better; I was (foolishly) hoping UT 2003 would allow me to play a popular FPS acceptably. Ah well, just more reason to get a new computer. 🙂
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have a look on my benchmarks ... wait til rev B of the 970 😀
 
If a 800mhz ibook can surprise people, a 900mhz ibook will kick, more reason to buy an ibook now 😛 i'm still ever jeolous of the metallic casing of a 12" PB
 
I"ve got SnapzProX... figure that OUGHTA work for screen shots. I'll try to take some tonight or this weekend...

FRAGadelically yours,

mangoman
 
Here it is, when I play it drops to around 19-20 fps I was firing my gun in this one, but it didn't get it for some reason. Oh this is a 800mhz ibook 382MB ram, without restarting after 2 days of use.
 

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sorry I had to compress it to low to acommodate the 102kb limit here, it looks way more better then that..
 
On that map, my mouse is whacked (a two button, scroll wheel Logitech -- the blue and gray one). I think it's cause I don't have the drivers installed at work. Haven't tried the home box yet...
 
Originally posted by Raiwong
If a 800mhz ibook can surprise people, a 900mhz ibook will kick, more reason to buy an ibook now 😛 i'm still ever jeolous of the metallic casing of a 12" PB
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my 700mhz won't run it...that extra 16megs toward the video card sure does help...
 
OMG! It runs sweet @ 1280x1024x16-bit on my DP1Gz Quicksilver w/ 64Mb GeForce4MX...I'm amazed! I didn't think the GF4MX would handle it so well, after all it is just the basic card. I know the minumum specs only say 32mb is required, but I'm still shocked!
 
Here's a screen cap playin at 1280x1024x16...(had to compress A LOT to be able to attach to post 🙁)
 

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Originally posted by mangoman
I"ve got SnapzProX... figure that OUGHTA work for screen shots. I'll try to take some tonight or this weekend...

FRAGadelically yours,

mangoman
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Hey Mango just use 'F9' like everyone else. I explain screenshots and how to implement wide screen support half way down page 5.

By the way has anyone done the wide screen thing?
 
Pathetic...

Well, I had to try it.

Turned all the settings down. All of them. 640 x 480, lowest everything.

On my 400 MHz G3 iMac with 512 MB RAM, I got a whopping 2 FPS (6 peak).

As a note, I know what my computer is capable of... I know I'm supposed to have a faster computer to make this playable, but it just should be better than this at the graphical quality I was seeing. I don't feel this is a really well optimized engine. Do you suppose they concentrated on optimizing it for the 970? Riiiiiight...

That's OK. Our revenge is coming with D3.... 😀

Not that I'll be able to run that until I get a faster computer either 🙁
 

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Alrighty, I modified the .ini file for widescreen support (1280x1050) and it works like a charm! I downstepped the world map detail from Highest to plain ole' High to compensate, and I'm still getting frame rates in the mid to high 30s. Nice. Thanks for the tip, Bandit.

You guys want to see some widescreen screenshots?
 
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Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Well, I had to try it.

Turned all the settings down. All of them. 640 x 480, lowest everything.

On my 400 MHz G3 iMac with 512 MB RAM, I got a whopping 2 FPS (6 peak).

As a note, I know what my computer is capable of... I know I'm supposed to have a faster computer to make this playable, but it just should be better than this at the graphical quality I was seeing. I don't feel this is a really well optimized engine. Do you suppose they concentrated on optimizing it for the 970? Riiiiiight...

That's OK. Our revenge is coming with D3.... 😀

Not that I'll be able to run that until I get a faster computer either 🙁
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UT was notorious for being one of the worst optimized programs/games for the Mac ever. It looks to me they did there best to continue the line of award winning software with UT2K3. 😉

I think UT2K3 actually runs worse on a graphics to graphics comparison on equal hardware.
 
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Originally posted by MacBandit
UT was notorious for being one of the worst optimized programs/games for the Mac ever. It looks to me they did there best to continue the line of award winning software with UT2K3. 😉

I think UT2K3 actually runs worse on a graphics to graphics comparison on equal hardware.
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You're right here. The whole thing just feels really bloated. I mean Christ, I'm running hardware that's less than a year old! I really should be getting better frame rates than this. 🙁
 
Originally posted by wsteineker
Alrighty, I modified the .ini file for widescreen support (1280x1050) and it works like a charm! I downstepped the world map detail from Highest to plain ole' High to compensate, and I'm still getting frame rates in the mid to high 30s. Nice. Thanks for the tip, Bandit.

You guys want to see some widescreen screenshots?
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Yeah they would be cool. Did you know you can increase your field of view? So that with the wide screen you aren't just stetching the image to the sides but actually seeing more. It's in the options somewhere I don't remember where but I know I remember coming across it.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
Yeah they would be cool. Did you know you can increase your field of view? So that with the wide screen you aren't just stetching the image to the sides but actually seeing more. It's in the options somewhere I don't remember where but I know I remember coming across it.
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WHAT?!?!? I'll look for that, but post it here if you run back across it. I'll hold off on the screen shots until then. Thanks! 🙂
 
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Originally posted by wsteineker
You're right here. The whole thing just feels really bloated. I mean Christ, I'm running hardware that's less than a year old! I really should be getting better frame rates than this. 🙁
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Also if you turn the graphics all the way down they look like crap but you don't see a realistic speed increase. I mean Marathon had better graphics then UT2K3 at it's lowest settings.
 
Originally posted by wsteineker
WHAT?!?!? I'll look for that, but post it here if you run back across it. I'll hold off on the screen shots until then. Thanks! 🙂
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Okay it wasn't quite what I was expecting but this is good to know anyway. In the options menu there's the tab for you're character. Once there on the right side of the scree there are three options the bottom one is the FOV (field of view). You can adjust this from 80-100. I played with it and I don't know why anyone would use anything but 100 though the game comes set at 90 I believe. If you set it at 80 it's like a bad case of glaucoma, it kills your peripheral so you can't see anything around you.
 
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Originally posted by MacBandit
Also if you turn the graphics all the way down they look like crap but you don't see a realistic speed increase. I mean Marathon had better graphics then UT2K3 at it's lowest settings.
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I noticed that when I was attempting (in vain) to get the average fps up into the mod to high 40s. I was *marginally* successful, but the whole thing didn't really speed up at all. It just got uglier.

I think you may have hit on the real problem here, Bandit. Marathon = Bungie game. Bungie = good. Bungie = lots of Mac native code. UT2k3 = bloated poorly ported code.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
Okay it wasn't quite what I was expecting but this is good to know anyway. In the options menu there's the tab for you're character. Once there on the right side of the scree there are three options the bottom one is the FOV (field of view). You can adjust this from 80-100. I played with it and I don't know why anyone would use anything but 100 though the game comes set at 90 I believe. If you set it at 80 it's like a bad case of glaucoma, it kills your peripheral so you can't see anything around you.
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Ha, ok. I'll dig on that for a little while. Off to get a beer and play more video games!!!!

P.S.- This is the reason I failed out of college back in '98. F*cking Quake II. 😉
 
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