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Unreleased MacBook Pro 6,1 and 6,2 Referenced in Mac OS X 10.6.2

Quad-core please

I'm holding out on buying my MBP (currently using a late 2007 iMac) because I thought Apple would be releasing quad-core soon. I was figuring on the update being in the Jan/Feb/Mar 2010 timeframe (just pulling that date out of my *ss) but if it happens sooner that'd be OK with me even if I had to bump to the ~$2200 17" MBP..

As for Blu-ray I don't expect we'll hear about built-in Blu-ray drives until Quicktime X / iDVD and iLife are updated to support them. It seems to me the Apple way isn't to give you hardware that you struggle to use, it's to give you a complete solution (software/hardware) that's easy to use. Maybe an announcement of iLife 10 along with BTO Blu-ray drives in iMacs and MBP sometime early next year?
 
Those of you predicting or hoping for 4 cores . . .
You need to look at Intel's roadmap . . . those processors don't exist in mobile variants . . . unless you want a 2 inch thick Macbook Pro

Somehow, I just don't see Apple putting one of those on the market.

I just really want to know if the new i7 'mobile' processors are going to be faster than the current line of processors given that they're more than 500mhz slower on the clock side of things
 
macduke said:
In addition, I didn't think they were going to update the MBP until lightpeak was available in early 2010?
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Is that for real? Lightpeak will start into production that soon? If so it's great but what do we have that can keep up with that? SSD only? Or do we know of anything else that can use that feature?
 
I'm very excited to see what Apple comes up with this time! The new iMacs amazed me! Anyways, I just bought my MBP 13 inch last Thursday and got it on Friday--talk about fast shipping! However, I don't regret this purchase. I can play the "get the latest technology, even though I don't need it" game. Or, I can be happy with what I have until it no longer suits my needs. I love my MBP to death, and I can already multi-task like a madman! Why get a core i5/i7? Now, understand I am a student and I'm sure that professionals need a lot more power than what I require. Still though, USB 3.0 and Light Peak?
 
jpefjr said:
I'm holding out on buying my MBP (currently using a late 2007 iMac) because I thought Apple would be releasing quad-core soon. I was figuring on the update being in the Jan/Feb/Mar 2010 timeframe (just pulling that date out of my *ss) but if it happens sooner that'd be OK with me even if I had to bump to the ~$2200 17" MBP..

As for Blu-ray I don't expect we'll hear about built-in Blu-ray drives until Quicktime X / iDVD and iLife are updated to support them. It seems to me the Apple way isn't to give you hardware that you struggle to use, it's to give you a complete solution (software/hardware) that's easy to use. Maybe an announcement of iLife 10 along with BTO Blu-ray drives in iMacs and MBP sometime early next year?
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I don't see that happening too soon, but here's to hoping...:)
 
cinder said:
Those of you predicting or hoping for 4 cores . . .
You need to look at Intel's roadmap . . . those processors don't exist in mobile variants . . . unless you want a 2 inch thick Macbook Pro

Somehow, I just don't see Apple putting one of those on the market.

I just really want to know if the new i7 'mobile' processors are going to be faster than the current line of processors given that they're more than 500mhz slower on the clock side of things
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But doesnt the new mobile i7 cpu's contain that turbo technology from intel?

I thought the idea behind this technology was to counter the fact multi core programming hasnt moved along as fast as the technology, so the chip sense's the applications are only using 1 core & ramp that core to 3ghz, however if multicore commands are used it drops back to 2ghz but 4 cores are used so the job gets done quicker?

or am i p*ssing into the wind.
 
core i7 820
usb 3.0
sata III
blu-ray
ati 4860 or nvidia gts 260 can't wait for dx11 gpu's... :(

:apple:
 
Stephen Dowling said:
I'm very excited to see what Apple comes up with this time! The new iMacs amazed me! Anyways, I just bought my MBP 13 inch last Thursday and got it on Friday--talk about fast shipping! However, I don't regret this purchase. I can play the "get the latest technology, even though I don't need it" game. Or, I can be happy with what I have until it no longer suits my needs. I love my MBP to death, and I can already multi-task like a madman! Why get a core i5/i7? Now, understand I am a student and I'm sure that professionals need a lot more power than what I require. Still though, USB 3.0 and Light Peak?
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i like your attitude. i am on the brink of getting a new machine and was getting antsy about when the updates will come. but you make a good point and i have to say, ill stop by the store tomorrow and pick up my machine. thanks! :)
 
ryanvalle said:
i like your attitude. i am on the brink of getting a new machine and was getting antsy about when the updates will come. but you make a good point and i have to say, ill stop by the store tomorrow and pick up my machine. thanks! :)
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No problem! I KNOW you will love what ever machine you decided to get! :)
 
Drag'nGT said:
Lightpeak will start into production that soon? If so it's great but what do we have that can keep up with that? SSD only? Or do we know of anything else that can use that feature?
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But Apple likes to jump the gun on technology shifts, and ship products that have no practical connectivity. And to have no legacy ports to help with the transition.

For example, one day the PowerMac had PCI-X slots. The next day it had PCI-Express slots. Not even a PCI-X or two to help with the transition - PCIe only.

Really sucked if you had PCI audio gear or other PCI stuff.

So, if true to form, Apple will suddenly drop USB-2, 1394a and 1394b - and ship a system with LightPeak before there are more than a handful of LightPeak devices available. All those USB and 1394 external drives that you have - they're eWaste now....
 
AidenShaw said:
But Apple likes to jump the gun on technology shifts, and ship products that have no practical connectivity. And to have no legacy ports to help with the transition.

For example, one day the PowerMac had PCI-X slots. The next day it had PCI-Express slots. Not even a PCI-X or two to help with the transition - PCIe only.

Really sucked if you had PCI audio gear or other PCI stuff.

So, if true to form, Apple will suddenly drop USB-2, 1394a and 1394b - and ship a system with LightPeak before there are more than a handful of LightPeak devices available. All those USB and 1394 external drives that you have - they're eWaste now....
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Have you ever had anything positive to comment? I've always noticed all the pessimistic posts man :p

Isn't lightpeak supposed to be backward compatible with usb/usb 2, etc?? :confused:
 
AidenShaw said:
But Apple likes to jump the gun on technology shifts, and ship products that have no practical connectivity. And to have no legacy ports to help with the transition.

For example, one day the PowerMac had PCI-X slots. The next day it had PCI-Express slots. Not even a PCI-X or two to help with the transition - PCIe only.

Really sucked if you had PCI audio gear or other PCI stuff.

So, if true to form, Apple will suddenly drop USB-2, 1394a and 1394b - and ship a system with LightPeak before there are more than a handful of LightPeak devices available. All those USB and 1394 external drives that you have - they're eWaste now....
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You forget, most ports/types that Apple back are relatively successful. 3.5" Floppys. USB. Firewire stuck to some extent. Or hell, even desktop computers stuck.

On the other end of the spectrum we still have motherboards with floppy ports and LPT1 ports. I'd prefer the gun jumping and have space wasted by newer tech I might use instead of older stuff that was phased out years ago.
 
cinder said:
Those of you predicting or hoping for 4 cores . . .
You need to look at Intel's roadmap . . . those processors don't exist in mobile variants . . . unless you want a 2 inch thick Macbook Pro

Somehow, I just don't see Apple putting one of those on the market.

I just really want to know if the new i7 'mobile' processors are going to be faster than the current line of processors given that they're more than 500mhz slower on the clock side of things
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I think Apple can make the Core i7 mobile Clarksfield processors launched Sep. 23 work in at least the 17" MBP without being 2" think. I guess we'll see.

As for being faster, the new i7's turbo will bump the 1.6 GHz up to 2.4 GHz for dual core operation and up to 2.8 for single core. And if they use the 1.733 GHz chip for $182 more then it'll have even better turbo performance. Plus I think the Clarksfield chips will have a processing advantage and run apps just as fast at slower clock speeds. I guess we'll find out if/when they're released and people start posting benchmarks.
 
MorphingDragon said:
You forget, most ports/types that Apple back are relatively successful. 3.5" Floppys. USB. Firewire stuck to some extent. Or hell, even desktop computers stuck.
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Apple didn't really back USB until the major PC manufacturers and companies had already decided to push it as the universal standard to replace the likes of the Parallel port, Serial port, etc.

And desktop computers existed before Apple. Apple simply pushed them in a much more consumer-friendly manner than had been done before (and don't get me wrong, it's a major kudos to Steve Jobs and the rest for getting it done).

On the other end of the spectrum we still have motherboards with floppy ports and LPT1 ports. I'd prefer the gun jumping and have space wasted by newer tech I might use instead of older stuff that was phased out years ago.
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A lot of people could also make the argument that they'd rather have that "space" wasted by a legacy connector so that they can potentially access one of those old technologies, vs. "wasting the space" on a port that will likely never see any major use and be phased out very quickly (think PCI-X).

I'm sorry, but one of the best things that came about from Apple migrating to Intel-based systems is that they're finally relatively in parity with the rest of the PC industry. Spew all the hate about PCs that you want, but it was the PC manufacturers, and not Apple, that typically drove the success of new standards (PCI-e, USB, SATA, etc.). Now that Apple works so closely with Intel, they can properly help drive those standards as well.

At the same time though, Lightpeak will only succeed if everyone else jumps on it as well.
 
abcborges said:
tomorrow?! Unlikely..Too soon I think...they got let the new iMac shine for while..
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"Tuesday" is actually an inside joke, stemming from the fact that over the years many posters have claimed, with varying degrees of accuracy, that the release of a new PowerBook or MB was imminent, coming as soon as next Tuesday. Now it's a bit of a running gag . . . ;)
 
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