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I was going to get an iMac....but then I saw how reflective it was :( Now I'll just wait to see what the next MBP and MP have to offer.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking on that too. However, I use a lot of mathematical processing (Matlab) and I don't really know if it is a good deal to trade clock and 6mb cache for Quad Core. What you guys think?:confused:

Here are some reviews and discussions that might help you.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265838-28-quad-core-machine-numeric-computations

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/intel-ci7-920-p2.html

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2333689
 
Argh, hurry them up! Broke my BlackBook screen, triggering a whole-house computer rejig, just waiting on an MBP update :(

Very true. I'm finding machines have gotten fast enough that you really don't need to upgrade as often. I used to upgrade in PowerPC days almost every revision trying to get a bit more power, but the current intel Machines really run nicely.

I currently run a Q6600 machine as my desktop, but it's got to a stage where I'm using maybe 25% of its potential the vast majority of the time - so I'm, get this, downgrading. The quad will take on multi-purpose HTPC/file server/virtualisation duties and will be replaced on my desk by a 13" MBP (the base one...admittedly after memory and hard drive upgrades).
 
I'm thinking about moving to a 17" matte Macbook Pro. I went to the Apple Store the other day and literally was dizzy after leaving the screen and re-entering the "real world". The huge resolution and brightness makes my 1280x800 Lenovo T61 look like crap!

The biggest thing holding me back is definitely Core i7... considering I could get a very, very fast Core i7 PC notebook workstation for less than a 17" MBP. The value just really isn't there.
 
Apple's Mac product development cycle is becoming less and less predictable which can only be a good thing and more frequent updates are essential now given that Apple are content on making their computers more affordable and that Microsoft and the PC market are not far behind. This said, the date of a last update is pretty much irrelevant to when the next update may happen.

The big question though is, what effect will new processors and GPU have on price? Apple are clearly keen to enforce the image that Mac's are more affordable than ever but will they be able to keep the same price points as before whilst offering comparable, yet improved machines?

I personally was hoping for a similar move to June when they boosted specs and lowered the price points.
 
Argh, hurry them up! Broke my BlackBook screen, triggering a whole-house computer rejig, just waiting on an MBP update :(



I currently run a Q6600 machine as my desktop, but it's got to a stage where I'm using maybe 25% of its potential the vast majority of the time - so I'm, get this, downgrading. The quad will take on multi-purpose HTPC/file server/virtualisation duties and will be replaced on my desk by a 13" MBP (the base one...admittedly after memory and hard drive upgrades).

My hackintosh is based on a Q6600... really an amazing chip. Since getting used to it's power, I don't think I can go back to a 2 core processor. I'm in the market for a MBP but I'll wait until they can find a way to stick a quad core in there :)
 
Apple P.R. At work again. This is how they do it, tons of wild speculation.

No Press|marketing dollars needed. Too funny.




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Applesfera reports on the discovery of support files for unreleased MacBook Pros in the latest Mac OS X 10.6.2 developer builds. The 10C531 build was first seeded to developers just a few days ago, and appears to include references to MacBook Pro 6,1 and MacBook Pro 6,2 models that have not yet been released.

Meanwhile, the latest shipping MacBook Pros carry a 5,x model number designation. The MacBook Pros were last updated in June 2009 and have not been rumored to see any imminent updates. Previous reports, however, have suggested that suitable Nehalem (Core i7) based processors could be feasible for MacBook Pros by late 2009/early 2010.

Most expect that Apple's next major notebook update will include these next-generation processors that have already found their way into the Mac Pro and iMac product lines. Traditionally, the MacBook Pro and iMac lines have been very closely linked in capabilities due to their similarly slim designs.

Article Link: Unreleased MacBook Pro 6,1 and 6,2 Referenced in Mac OS X 10.6.2
 
The big question though is, what effect will new processors and GPU have on price? Apple are clearly keen to enforce the image that Mac's are more affordable than ever but will they be able to keep the same price points as before whilst offering comparable, yet improved machines?

that has been apple's m.o. lately - new macs with better specs at the same price as the model being replaced.
 
Apple's Mac product development cycle is becoming less and less predictable which can only be a good thing and more frequent updates are essential now given that Apple are content on making their computers more affordable and that Microsoft and the PC market are not far behind. This said, the date of a last update is pretty much irrelevant to when the next update may happen.
Exactly. Before Apple's switch to Intel they were really on their own schedule... now that Apple uses the same components that every other computer vendor uses they are forced to update when the latest Intel offerings show up. If they didn't, they would be shooting themselves in the foot.
 
Apple P.R. At work again. This is how they do it, tons of wild speculation.
All this for a pair of 12 kb files. :p

My hackintosh is based on a Q6600... really an amazing chip. Since getting used to it's power, I don't think I can go back to a 2 core processor. I'm in the market for a MBP but I'll wait until they can find a way to stick a quad core in there :)
The Q6600 is an amazing processor even today. You can get a little more power now for $99 on an Athlon II X4 620. I got my Q6600 for $179. Signs of progress nonethless!
 
just wondering... whom actually needs i5/i7 on a "notebook"?!
Who needs really powerful machines, well, get a desktop or something similar!
:rolleyes:

Guess by that logic I should go back to using a Pentium 1 166mhz with MMX for my laptop. an i5/i9 may not seem "needful" at the moment for you. But for many professionals on-the-go every bit of power counts. and for the price point of Macs and the fact that they are usually touted as the luxury computer, it doesn't seem unreasonable that a more advanced chip would be on its way.

on a side note: I'm hoping for the return of the ExpressCard slot on the 15" models, and Matte screen option.
 
My hackintosh is based on a Q6600... really an amazing chip. Since getting used to it's power, I don't think I can go back to a 2 core processor. I'm in the market for a MBP but I'll wait until they can find a way to stick a quad core in there :)

I thought that until recently, but having got used to working with a computer full-time I simply don't use my home desktop for anything requiring real power. Beyond general browsing/chatting/watching/listening and VNC/RDP/SSH sessions, I don't do much - this way, it's much more flexible (especially in virtualisation terms).
 
Guess by that logic I should go back to using a Pentium 1 166mhz with MMX for my laptop. an i5/i9 may not seem "needful" at the moment for you. But for many professionals on-the-go every bit of power counts. and for the price point of Macs and the fact that they are usually touted as the luxury computer, it doesn't seem unreasonable that a more advanced chip would be on its way.

on a side note: I'm hoping for the return of the ExpressCard slot on the 15" models, and Matte screen option.
Since we're on the x86 side now Apple needs to at least try to offer hardware parity with other vendors. $999 gets you a Dell Studio 15" at ~5.5 lbs. with Clarksfield and tons of options to customize it.

It's a little grayer in the under-$999 Core 2 + 9400M G sub 5 lbs. thin and light market.

A lot of people don't realize how much hardware you should be getting for the price either.
 
Since we're on the x86 side now Apple needs to at least try to offer hardware parity with other vendors. $999 gets you a Dell Studio 15" at ~5.5 lbs. with Clarksfield and tons of options to customize it.

It's a little grayer in the under-$999 Core 2 + 9400M G sub 5 lbs. thin and light market.

A lot of people don't realize how much hardware you should be getting for the price either.

Unfortunately, few people compare the prices to PC's, something Apple counts on. Otherwise, a high-end 15" MBP would cost $1000, not $1700+.
 
Upgrade for school

I'm needing to upgrade my mobile end for lab purposes (computer science) and I was going to get the top end MBP 15" with the 3.06 GHz and 4GBs of RAM. I was looking at getting this no later than Thanksgiving, but now that this is rumored I'm not sure if I should wait. I really just want a 15" and couldn't see Apple making all the MBPs quad core. Even if I were going to get a quad core MBP it would have to be at least 2.8GHz quad. So on that note I see the 17" MBP having the quad core and maybe the top 15", but again, if I were to wait and get a quad core MBP assuming there will be upgrades like this it would have to be at least a 2.8GHz (just my thing). What do you all think I should do? Wait it out for the upgrades or get one Thanksgiving if they are not out yet. Also, I seem recalling Apple having a program, that if you buy a new Mac within so many days of new models being released, they will take care of you. I'm I making this up?
 
I bought the 13" AlumBook in 2008 with a 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 9400M........then the June 2009 Update came out and I felt it was necessary to upgrade......and that I did to the MBP 15" 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 9600GT 512MB. I just couldnt resist the better displays, the SD card slot and more importantly the 7-hour battery. This update will last me a while. I felt the 7-hour battery update is one of the most crucial additions to the portable line in a long time and I can't see the next MBP revision making me drop more money just because its new. a Core i7 wouldn't be enough.

If anything, I may consider the next revision of the MacBook Air as I feel that will be a nice update since the last revision was so minor.
 
If anything, I may consider the next revision of the MacBook Air as I feel that will be a nice update since the last revision was so minor.

I am most definitely with you on the MBA upgrade I use mine like no other and use it in labs and it just doesn't have the power, that's why I wanna get a new MBP 15". However I travel with my MBA and take it to the rest of my classes and have it in sense dedicated to school work.
 
Off topic, but I think it's pretty clear some Mac Pro updates are due soon...

Why do you say that? I haven't seen any indications of this - and I've been looking like crazy. I want to buy a Mac Pro, but don't want to kick myself for buying it weeks before a new version comes out...
 
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The little chatter I've heard has been of Apple using six core processors giving us a 12 core Mac Pro with 64GBs of RAM. This is rumor from a couple sites we won't know till it happens like normal.
 
The little chatter I've heard has been of Apple using six core processors giving us a 12 core Mac Pro with 64GBs of RAM. This is rumor from a couple sites we won't know till it happens like normal.

But are we talking weeks for this - or months? Anyone?
 
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