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What about offering HDMI port? Would that be something going to be one of apple's plans to enhance their products with?

I assume using Display Port with an audio cable in parallel is kind of bothering.
 
as a "pro" computer it would seem that they should have a "pro" gpu.

Exactly.

Why not offer the option to customers who are willing to pay more for a better vid card ? I just don't understand Apples's insistance on putting last years mid range GPUs in their latest and greatest computers. :confused:
 
What about offering HDMI port? Would that be something going to be one of apple's plans to enhance their products with?

I assume using Display Port with an audio cable in parallel is kind of bothering.

I don't think Apple will ever use HDMI. The reason being the licence costs.
 
That would be a violation of the Steve Jobs Doctrine: Don't confuse your customers by offering them choices.

:D

But you know what, it was a lot easier selling four different Macs that didn't have a lot of options than it was selling forty different PCs with an infinite number of options. :eek:

Hopefully MS will start running some new laptop hunter ads and Apple drops the price of the 17" a few hundred like last time so I can get one. :cool:
 
Or $30 video cards...


Of all the customers I sold upgrade video cards to, only one knew you could get a video card with HDMI on it and she built her own computers. Fortunately I asked all the people if they wanted vid cards with HDMI and none of them ever said no, "that would be really stupid to get a video card without HDMI".

Why yes, it would be.
 
Trust me, if Apple really wanted to crack into an untouched portion of the PC market, they'd do it by giving people the ability to upgrade their GPUs, or at least give them BTO options..

Or at *least* offer something like a 1.3" MacBook Pro tailored to graphics.

I guarantee you it'd sell like hotcakes. You have no idea how many gamers want to make the switch but won't purely due to the pathetic GPUs in Macs.
 
^ lol.

yeah that would be my one wish. but i can't complain if they put the new arrandales in, which seems more likely.
 
What about pricing? Will the new MBP's have around the same price as the actual ones, while these are lowered?
 
If only my late-2007 MBP wasn't working so damn well I might be able to justify an upgrade.

Sigh, oh well. :)
 
with apple being so expensive for what hardware you get, and my graduation of high school (in june) representing many costs, I need a laptop that has value in terms of hardware to price relationship.

I love macs, i really do. There is much less stress. What mac user knows what bloatware is? exactly. However, if apple cannot convince me with their updates in the first quarter, then I have a feeling I am going to be easier on my parents, and ask for a lappy with better hardware for $500 less.

unless, you can give me lots of evidence to convince me, and them otherwise.
 
unless, you can give me lots of evidence to convince me, and them otherwise.

This makes it sound like you think it's our job to advertise Apple products. No one is required to give you lots of evidence to convince you; you might get a better response by asking politely for help.

Hardware differences have been picked to death elsewhere on these forums, and you can check those differences for yourself. You should also be taking into account how long you think you'll be using the computer when you consider prices. If you think a PC laptop will be obsolete three years from now, but you might have used a Mac for five, it's reasonable to pay 1.67x the price for a Mac. Again, you can make those comparisons yourself based on your personal expectations.
 
This makes it sound like you think it's our job to advertise Apple products. No one is required to give you lots of evidence to convince you; you might get a better response by asking politely for help.

Hardware differences have been picked to death elsewhere on these forums, and you can check those differences for yourself. You should also be taking into account how long you think you'll be using the computer when you consider prices. If you think a PC laptop will be obsolete three years from now, but you might have used a Mac for five, it's reasonable to pay 1.67x the price for a Mac. Again, you can make those comparisons yourself based on your personal expectations.

Yep, those five year old macs sure are running strong with Snow Leopard these days! :p

And to the other poster above, you're right, OSX is incapable of having bad programmers. There is not a SINGLE piece of poorly written bloated code on any Apple machines!
 
This makes it sound like you think it's our job to advertise Apple products. No one is required to give you lots of evidence to convince you; you might get a better response by asking politely for help.

Hardware differences have been picked to death elsewhere on these forums, and you can check those differences for yourself. You should also be taking into account how long you think you'll be using the computer when you consider prices. If you think a PC laptop will be obsolete three years from now, but you might have used a Mac for five, it's reasonable to pay 1.67x the price for a Mac. Again, you can make those comparisons yourself based on your personal expectations.

actually that was really helpful. i could use this to my advantage big time.

i apologize if i came off negatively, but a strong statement usually gets the better comments.

i dont deny that i am ignorant in the ways of pc's; however, my brother's computer seems more bloated than my parent's mac.
 
Yep, those five year old macs sure are running strong with Snow Leopard these days! :p

But if you have a five-year old Mac, much of Snow Leopard is irrelevant to you, anyway, while Tiger and Leopard are (and at least Leopard is still being supported by Apple with fixes).

Also, now that the platform has stabilized on Intel (and Intel has stabilized on x86-64), a five-plus year life-cycle is reasonable to assume.
 
Discount on MacBook Pro 5.x?

so would I be completely stupid to buy a 17 inch MBP right now if I don`t absolutely need it yet

... probably advisable to wait a few months if you can. Normally I don't think waiting is worth it, but if we see Arrandale-based MBPs early next year it will be worth the wait.

Thanks for the input guys. I'm in the market for a high-end MBP 17" for doing development, but I need it by the beginning of Jan 2010. From what I've read so far, the new MBP isn't rumored to come out until at least Jan/Feb 2010, and even then I like to give any new release a few months for benchmarks, in-depth reviews, and for possible known issues to come forth.

So I think I have to miss the "bleeding edge" boat on this one; however, one strategy I might still be able to leverage given my timing constraint would be to wait for the price to drop on the current (and soon to be deprecated) MBP 5.x, right as this new MBP hits the market. If this happens Jan/Feb 2010, the timing might work out for me.

I'm not familiar with how Apple prices its deprecated models, or if deprecated models are even available for purchase once a new model replaces it. Does anyone have a feel for this? For example, when/if the MacBook Pro 6.x comes out in early 2010, what might I expect to pay for a new (but deprecated) MBP 5.x, based on previous MBP model deprecation pricing? Are the only 10% marked down, or more generously?

If only 10%, I might take the risk of buying a bleeding edge system if the new MBP happens to come out early enough 2010.

Thanks!
-Jeff
 
all i am basically trying to say is that i am torn between the lasting quality of a mac, and the potential power of a pc. i would be ok if apple updates the standard gpu to have 512mb gpu, but currently, that would cost too much for when i go to college.

(gonna be a computer science major, and i like to play games).
 
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