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Mugenized,

you dont need the touch screen to be responsive at all. Just plug it in, and run it through itunes. As long as itunes recognizes it, you should be good to go. That all you really need it to be able to do.
 
Just a quick question but what do you mean when you say AT&T will "flag" your account?
Like if I call and try to ask for my account to be switched what would or could they do and flag me for what?

An account can be flagged for various reasons. The most common is not paying your bill on time (which is an automatic flag). They have the ability to mark it as fraud. Again, not saying they WILL do this. Just saying it is within their power to do that and have another department review it.

To be clear, it is unlikely this will happen. I am the first to admit that. I just want people to be aware that it CAN happen.

There is a bit of a misconception with data plans and contracts by the way. You actually aren't signing a contract saying "I will have x data plan for my two year contract". In fact, you could go into ATT, buy a 4S (on contract), slap your dumb phone on the counter and tell them to activate that in place of the iPhone 4s, then remove data. They will have no problem doing this for you, and all you will have to pay for is the minutes plan for the next two years. In short, since YOU can do "anything you want" with the data, so can they. (obviously if they "screwed" everyone that would cause quite the public uproar)

I will be the first to say, I have never personally had anyone's $30 unlimited be removed for "no reason" (quotes, because I have had two people tether), but have heard it happening. This is why I prefer to give AT&T the least amount of reasons to have a live person manually inspecting accounts. That's all it is, my preference. Not something anyone must live or die by.

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Am interested, is this still happening? Just got the 4s and had to go with the 2gb plan as I had the dumbphone unlimited data plan and of course that wouldn't work.

Yes, this is still happening. If/when the loophole gets closed up I am sure this thread will be updated IMMEDIATELY. :) FWIW it has existed for about a year now, so there is no indication if imminent closure.
 
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Just thought I'd vouch for unlimitedsway again. He is very trustworthy and LEGIT. No need to be scared or uncertain. I was too and a month later, I still have my $30 unlimited plan even though I signed up as a new customer for the iPhone 4s.

ACT NOW because AT&T is aware of the loophole and is beginning to remove it.
 
May I ask what leads you to believe they are beginning to remove it?

I lurk around the AT&T forums and someone mentioned it and AT&T at first denied it and then said this won't continue to work. A few people attempted it and were unsuccessful. I am talking about the moderators. Of course this isn't certain but I wouldn't be surprised.
 
I lurk around the AT&T forums and someone mentioned it and AT&T at first denied it and then said this won't continue to work. A few people attempted it and were unsuccessful. I am talking about the moderators. Of course this isn't certain but I wouldn't be surprised.

Interesting. Thanks for the information! :)

I am actually more surprised that this loophole is still open, than anything else.
 
May I ask what leads you to believe they are beginning to remove it?

The loophole was figured out a few months ago. The I tried multiple times and was unsuccessful. I would recommend taking off any iphones on your account before attempting because I believe iphone imei's are what triggers their system to not allow it.
 
The loophole was figured out a few months ago. The I tried multiple times and was unsuccessful. I would recommend taking off any iphones on your account before attempting because I believe iphone imei's are what triggers their system to not allow it.

Yes. As a general rule, anyone I am doing this for gets their iPhone (any smart phone really) replaced with a dumb phone before running the activation. It's an extra step, but I have found activations happen much faster and smoother.
 
Just thought I'd vouch for unlimitedsway again. He is very trustworthy and LEGIT. No need to be scared or uncertain. I was too and a month later, I still have my $30 unlimited plan even though I signed up as a new customer for the iPhone 4s.

ACT NOW because AT&T is aware of the loophole and is beginning to remove it.


Hey thanks alot MattMJB0188,
I really appreciate the positive feedback!!
I do hope that you are enjoying that unlimited data!!:)

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Hey jsmith just got your text. Im helping another person right now, but will text you back shortly.
 
Hey thanks alot MattMJB0188,
I really appreciate the positive feedback!!
I do hope that you are enjoying that unlimited data!!:)

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Hey jsmith just got your text. Im helping another person right now, but will text you back shortly.

hey i texted you from a 510 number too
please help me out

thanks
 
"unlimitedsway" is the truth! I was very skeptical at first, but he was very patient and understanding throughout the process. He just finished helping me get an unlimited data plan for my wife's new iPhone 4s.

First rep from Minnesota! Skol Vikings!
 
Hey, unlimitedsway and lordofthereef. Can either of you help me on a slightly different variation?

I successfully got an unlimited plan by activating a totally new line. Now I'd like to move the unlimited plan to my primary line.

The main reason I did it this way is I didn't want to reset my voicemail or jeopardize my primary line in any way, as that's what I use for business.

If either of you can make it happen, let me know what the rate would be.
 
Hey, unlimitedsway and lordofthereef. Can either of you help me on a slightly different variation?

I successfully got an unlimited plan by activating a totally new line. Now I'd like to move the unlimited plan to my primary line.

The main reason I did it this way is I didn't want to reset my voicemail or jeopardize my primary line in any way, as that's what I use for business.

If either of you can make it happen, let me know what the rate would be.

You cannot move an unavailable data plan from one line to another.
Only way to do it is to activate unlimited data on the primary line that you wanted it on.
 
Status: Got Iphone 2G (First Gen) OS 3.1.3 Wiped clean + fresh SIM card + Itunes 9.0

Itunes recognized phone and asked me to select the 20$ unlimited Data plan.
I selected it and filled out the rest of the info linking it to my account where I already had a dumb phone with no data plan and trying to replace that line with the Iphone 2. Something happened during the final part where it said my connection to itunes timed out but the connection was fine.

I've gotten two emails from Itunes saying:Service Activation complete and activation complete.

The phone hasn't yet activated (says no service) and my att account doesn't have the updated data plan or phone on it yet. Granted I didn't start trying to do this till like 10PM on a Friday and I got the latest activation email at 1:25 am. AM I doing something wrong or should I just wait till morning?
 
Status: Got Iphone 2G (First Gen) OS 3.1.3 Wiped clean + fresh SIM card + Itunes 9.0

Itunes recognized phone and asked me to select the 20$ unlimited Data plan.
I selected it and filled out the rest of the info linking it to my account where I already had a dumb phone with no data plan and trying to replace that line with the Iphone 2. Something happened during the final part where it said my connection to itunes timed out but the connection was fine.

I've gotten two emails from Itunes saying:Service Activation complete and activation complete.

The phone hasn't yet activated (says no service) and my att account doesn't have the updated data plan or phone on it yet. Granted I didn't start trying to do this till like 10PM on a Friday and I got the latest activation email at 1:25 am. AM I doing something wrong or should I just wait till morning?

I would run it again if you don't see anything by, say Saturday night. It's odd that you got two of each e-mail (you should only get one). Did you actually run the activation twice? This will require another sim card.

Anyone that wants it done for them Feel free to text with questions: 515:apple:981:apple:6826
Mention macrumors and will save you some $$$ ;)

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Hey, unlimitedsway and lordofthereef. Can either of you help me on a slightly different variation?

I successfully got an unlimited plan by activating a totally new line. Now I'd like to move the unlimited plan to my primary line.

The main reason I did it this way is I didn't want to reset my voicemail or jeopardize my primary line in any way, as that's what I use for business.

If either of you can make it happen, let me know what the rate would be.

As "Applejuiced" said, you need to run this activation on the line you intend to have unlimited on. Unfortunately there is no way around that. If I may make a recommendation, try using Google Voice for your business voicemail. I love it and will never go back!
 
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"unlimitedsway" is the truth! I was very skeptical at first, but he was very patient and understanding throughout the process. He just finished helping me get an unlimited data plan for my wife's new iPhone 4s.

First rep from Minnesota! Skol Vikings!

bluepr1nt,

Im glad that i could help you out!!;)

Tell you wife to start enjoying the heck outta that unlimited data!!:cool:

& Im glad that i could help so many people here at mac rumors thus far!

anyone still needing my help, just text me!

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Hey, unlimitedsway and lordofthereef. Can either of you help me on a slightly different variation?

I successfully got an unlimited plan by activating a totally new line. Now I'd like to move the unlimited plan to my primary line.

The main reason I did it this way is I didn't want to reset my voicemail or jeopardize my primary line in any way, as that's what I use for business.

If either of you can make it happen, let me know what the rate would be.


9cos

nope 9cos...like everyone says, you have to set up unlimited from the start from the getgo
 
Hey, unlimitedsway and lordofthereef. Can either of you help me on a slightly different variation?

I successfully got an unlimited plan by activating a totally new line. Now I'd like to move the unlimited plan to my primary line.

The main reason I did it this way is I didn't want to reset my voicemail or jeopardize my primary line in any way, as that's what I use for business.

If either of you can make it happen, let me know what the rate would be.
As others have indicated, you can't move the unlimited data plan between lines on your account. However, there is still a ray of hope for you if you plan to keep both lines active but it may take you a few tries to get an end result that will work if you don't want to use best option of using the original iPhone loophole for your "primary" line.

Call Customer Care or go to an AT&T Corporate retail location and ask the rep to swap the phone numbers that are assigned to the two lines. Not all reps will be willing to help but if you are persistant and polite you will find someone that can help you make the number swap.

Dave
 
Call Customer Care or go to an AT&T Corporate retail location and ask the rep to swap the phone numbers that are assigned to the two lines. Not all reps will be willing to help but if you are persistant and polite you will find someone that can help you make the number swap.

That's awesome! Would this effect voicemail or anything? How about the bill?
 
Appreciate the advice, guys.

The reason I didn't want my voicemail messed with is that years ago I had them modify it to where it just has my personal outgoing greeting, then a beep and that's it. No canned voice saying, "To leave a message, begin speaking after the tone... blah, blah."

That's a dead giveaway you're talking to a cell phone and I want to sound more professional and office-like to my prospective clients.

If any of you are familiar with David Pogue of the NY Times and the Take Back The Beep Campaign (takebackthebeep.com), you know what I'm talking about and how frustrating it is. Now that I have it perfect, I don't want to mess with it.

Just to back you guys up, I simply followed the instructions in the this thread, particularly from dannn and post #563, and everything worked just like you said it would. Then I called 611 and had them switch it over to $30/3G. Did it all in less than an hour.

I just didn't want to risk messing with my primary line voicemail, so I started with a new line.

Thanks, again!
 
I want to add unlimited back onto my plan (I had it, dropped it to the $15 plan because I was only using 100mb or less a month, but now I'll be traveling a lot and would like unlimited just in case).

I went to the AT&T store and got an unused sim for my iPhone 4. So do I just go on ebay and buy one of those unlimited data packages from lordofthereef, wait until my phone deactivates, pop in the new sim and reactivate my phone through iTunes?

I have a fan discount on my voice plan and also have the $10/1000 text plan. Will those affect anything?
 
Status: Got Iphone 2G (First Gen) OS 3.1.3 Wiped clean + fresh SIM card + Itunes 9.0

Itunes recognized phone and asked me to select the 20$ unlimited Data plan.
I selected it and filled out the rest of the info linking it to my account where I already had a dumb phone with no data plan and trying to replace that line with the Iphone 2. Something happened during the final part where it said my connection to itunes timed out but the connection was fine.

I've gotten two emails from Itunes saying:Service Activation complete and activation complete.

The phone hasn't yet activated (says no service) and my att account doesn't have the updated data plan or phone on it yet. Granted I didn't start trying to do this till like 10PM on a Friday and I got the latest activation email at 1:25 am. AM I doing something wrong or should I just wait till morning?

I signed up just to answer this as I had something very similar happen. I actually was intending to use my brother's old iPhone 2G for the remainder of the quarter I'm in before I upgrade so getting service on the phone was so important that I spent five days trying to figure this out. It has taken:

Three corporate AT&T stores
One online AT&T rep
Two Apple Customer Service calls
One Apple Genius Bar appointment
One hour AT&T call that was transferred to Apple
Two and half hour call with Apple
One hour call with Senior Advisor
Escalation to a Senior Engineer
Two calls back from a second Senior Advisor

I got bounced back and forth a lot over the first few days :(. The last 60 hours were the most productive, though. My guess is because I got a lot of people with kids and I'm sure parental instincts kicked in as my mom was starting most of these calls (I can be called in on in my dorm, I just can't call out). After trying just about every troubleshooting thing and being told the issue was a hardware one by Genius Bar (they were incorrect and this was confirmed by the first Senior Advisor), the second Senior Advisor found one troubleshooting thing I hadn't been told to try. He was kind enough to pass me the exact process he had me do in an email so that I could share this potential fix. It did work beautifully for me, but it might not be the issue others are having. It's worth a shot, though.

(Note that I've cut out the actual first step since it just required running a diagnostics in iTunes. It's not really necessary if you already know you're having a network connection error in iTunes. So where it references back to step #11, it actually means step #10)

  1. Open Internet Explorer.
  2. From the Tools menu, choose Internet Options.
  3. Click Connections.
  4. Under "Dial-up and Virtual Private Networking," choose "Never dial a connection." It may not be possible to choose this if you’ve never used dial-up Internet; if this is the case, skip to the next step.
  5. Click LAN Settings.
  6. In the window that opens, enable the option to "Automatically detect settings" if it is not enabled.
  7. iTunes uses Internet Options proxy settings. Apple recommends removing proxy settings that interfere with access to the iTunes Store if needed.
  8. Click OK.
  9. Click the Advanced tab.
  10. Scroll down to the Security section and look for the option to "Check for server certificate revocation." If it is enabled, disable it.
  11. Look for Use SSL 3.0 and Use TLS 1.0. Make sure at least one of those two checkboxes is selected and click OK (You can select both checkboxes).
  12. Apply any changes, and restart your computer if you modified the option to "Check for server certificate revocation" (step #11).

I had the network connection error messages through the whole activation process. I got all the correct emails. AT&T showed the correct data plan, but the wrong phone. The phone would not finish activation and was stuck in the connect to iTunes/emergency calls only screen. I don't know for sure this will help, but it certainly is one more thing to try before going to the trouble of attempting the whole activation process from the beginning again.

I have not tried this on my 7 machines, but this was tried on my Vista 64 bit desktop. I was using the latest version of iTunes.

EDIT: And obviously this will only work if you're trying to activate through a Windows machine ;)
 
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