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Yeah, the pros need to change not hold everyone back becasue they can’t adapt. That’s the worse excuse. If you would have said something about charging and listening, that’s a real thing. But if it’s just about old habits and old tech? Nope.

It's not about old habits, you rude ass.
 
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Use a dongle! All pros are use to using dongles of some sort video/audio right and I’m baffled as to what professional work flow would require an iPad?

It had potential as a mobile photo/video editing device what with Adobe supposedly releasing full versions of some of the Creative Cloud Apps. The iPad Pro display is actually really well suited to Photo/Video editing with is P3 gamut and good DeltaE accuracy. And with the CPU being no slouch it could've probably handled reasonably intensive 4K video editing with ease. But alas, once again Apple decides to dumb down any devices that show potential in the name of "thin".
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Yeah, the pros need to change not hold everyone back becasue they can’t adapt. That’s the worse excuse. If you would have said something about charging and listening, that’s a real thing. But if it’s just about old habits and old tech? Nope.

Its not refusing to adapt its refusing to adopt an inferior and less convenient system in place of a system that already exists and works well.
 
No on planet Earth see, because the less I/O the iPad Pro has the less useful and conveneint it is compared to devices like the Surface which at least still offer 3.5mm audio and a full USB port. Oh and mini displayport. Being able to connect to things is kind of important.

And still, nobody cares.

Maybe an RS-232 port would help?
 
Careful, you'll stir up the portphobes on this site who'll start on you about the correlation between professional activities and 3.5 mm prehistoric technology. ;)

Maybe there's a good reason the 3.5mm jack has been around for so long and shouldn't be replaced just for the sake of replacing it (and selling expensive headphones). ;)
 
Careful, you'll stir up the portphobes on this site who'll start on you about the correlation between professional activities and 3.5 mm prehistoric technology. ;)

Or you stir up the cool aid guys. Either way, a pleasant cruise for sure. I’d rather discuss with a critical mind though, but that’s just me.
 
Yeah why keep a no-fuss standard for audio that works far easier and more reliably than bluetooth.

Who would want a jack where you plug in your headphones and audio comes out when you can switch to bluetooth and deal with device pairing, multiple bluetooth standards that may or may not be supported by your device, having to recharge your headphones, and likely the interference and bandwidth issues that are going to come up when more and more devices switch to using bluetooth.

no-fuss? i rather deal with bluetooth pairing issues with my QC35 than dealing with the headphone wire while on a plane. also I can't tell you how many times I broke my wired headphones from rolling the wire up when putting it away. and several years ago, I got up from my seat while my QC15 was attached to the headphone jack of my iPad which pulled the light iPad off the table and cracked it on the floor. i'm done with wired headphones. if it's so precious to you, keep the headphone adapter attached to your headphone wire at all times.

airpods made me forget about pairing and charging issues completely on a daily basis.
 
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no-fuss? i rather deal with bluetooth pairing issues with my QC35 than dealing with the headphone wire while on a plane. also I can't tell you how many times I broke my wired headphones from rolling the wire up when putting it away. and several years ago, I got up from my seat while my QC15 was attached to the headphone jack of my iPad which pulled the light iPad off the table and cracked it on the floor. i'm done with wired headphones. if it's so precious to you, keep the headphone adapter attached to your headphone wire at all times.

airpods made me forget about pairing and charging issues completely on a daily basis.

Yeah and I bet airpods made you forget what good headphones sound like too.
 
I wouldn't be a fan of them removing the headphone socket. I use the headphone socket on my iPad every single day. It would actually annoy me more than on the iPhone where I use it less often (though I'm glad it's still there on my SE).
 
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The way I see Surface vs iPad:

- iPad: always on, instantly, ready to take your notes. Very infrequent updates, long battery life. Pencil requires frequent charging, unfortunately. Otherwise zero maintenance, automatic iCloud backup, you'll never lose your data even if you're not very good with computers and backup. Very secure by design. These days you can edit photos, even video, but it's no desktop replacement for me, due to the lack of mouse support (I'm an old-school desktop person).

- Surface: It's beautiful, I love it that it runs a full desktop system, photo editing, software development, you name it, no limitations. But it's a Windows laptop, with constant system updates and reboots. It is high maintenance (comparatively), and the last thing you want is system maintenance when you whip it out to jot some equations down, or sketch a doodle, or browse Instagram. You need to worry about your own backup, and there's nothing like Time Machine for Windows, not even close. There's Backblaze and other solutions, but not as seamless, and requires deliberate effort. The latest Windows Update deleted many users' documents, pictures, downloads, music. I'm a Windows developer, I know how to use Windows, but there always seems to be a nagging issue when you're very busy with something else.

So Surface is much more powerful, but it comes with the higher maintenance, and the iPad is more like an appliance that is always on and ready to go. The iPad has unmatched security due to lack of file system, highly enforced sandboxing (= app isolation, or walled garden). Windows is the usual, you constantly need to scan your files in the background for malware, which uses battery, and the average nontechnical folks can seriously lose data or get infected my ransomware if they don't know what they're doing. If Boeing got infected, anyone can be. You have to install and manage your own backup solution as well. Only Windows Pro comes with full-disk encryption, which is standard on every Mac and iPad. So pros and cons on both sides, very different devices.
 
I thought Jony had been quiet lately.

To be fair, I've not once used the headphone socket on my iPad in all the years I've owned it. It's the one time I wouldn't mind using Bluetooth headphones.

My phone on the other hand...
Difficult to believe that such people exist.
 
Oh I dunno if you can afford a $700+ tablet you can afford a $10 adapter. If you’re a true pro sound engineer you already have adapters for the iPad anyway, so it’s moot.

He forgot to check back with you before claiming that precious pro status.

Good one, thanks much!
 
Glad I got the last good one.

I often use my IPP in bed with it sitting on the nightstand, with my very low profile wired earbuds. When I lean over to switch music/video/whatever, it pops open with the slightest finger touch, even with 1/2 my face buried in a pillow.

I hope my current 10.5” IPP lasts a VERY long time, because I can do none of that with the new IPP.
 
Everyone outraged about the “possible” elimination of the headphone jack in the iPad pros remind me of all the people outraged when Apple got rid of the floppy drive in the first iMac. Wires will soon be a thing of the past across the board. So y’all better get used to it.
 
This week has been great as far as iPad Pro rumors, but really wish they would come out and say when its coming out!
 
Good. No one uses headphones on an ipad anyway. If you want to use headphones u should just buy the $160 EarPods.

0% of iPad users use headphones
80% of statistics are made up on the spot

The issue with Bluetooth headphones in pro audio monitoring is that the sound is not necessarily in sync. EarPods are not suitable for pro audio monitoring.
 
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