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However I am wondering if I am glad I have the NVIDIA model because I was playing with my friend's MBP 13" (i7, 4GB RAM) with the Intel HD 3000 graphics and it was performing noticeably poorly compared to the Air, even with YouTube. Not sure if he has other issues going on though.

There must be something seriously wrong with your friend's MBP because mine just flies on the gfx side and, according to the anandtech review, its faster than the previous generation with the 320m on the OSX platform.
 
Good.

This is good. Any computer that costs around $1000 has to come with 4 GB or ram. Anything less is ridiculous in this day and age. Doesn't matter if it's an ultraportable.

And now for the Macbook... and maybe the mac mini... I'm expecting more ram in both of you too!
 
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So what is the purpose of the 13" MBP now?
For people that need some more serious computing power (likely 50% faster CPU and possibly double the RAM, ie, 8 GB, technically you can already add 16 GB) and use their laptop as their primary computer (256 GB is just not a lot once you add music, movies and images and some actual work files, eg, developer code, simulation data etc.).

(And not that those people would have to forgo the SSD, adding a second disk to a MBP is pretty easy.)

I've got the 2GB 64GB 11" model and I'd like to report that it has been quite sufficient despite my initial concerns. It is never slow with Lion gestures or video or anything, and even with an XP VM running in one desktop I still have RAM free.

Is this your only (primary) machine? I have trouble believing that somebody can have this little of digital data (once you subtract the OS and the applications).

And I don't know, after a restart, starting my 20 common apps, I already use about 2.5 GB or RAM and after a few days that goes up to between 4 to 5 GB even without using any really RAM-heavy apps like Fusion or Aperture.

I don't know about him, and maybe I'm not your typical user, but after 4 years with my 2007 MacBook with a 120GB hd, I'm only using 40GB total. I have about 4GB of music, no movies (have them on DVD/Blu-Ray and no need to play on my computer), photos from my camera, and word files, mostly. If I get the new MBA I'll probably buy some modern apps, which will use up more HD space, but don't see my digital media file space needs growing too much. 128GB should last me for the life of the MBA. :)
 
I'm at a loss as to how Apple can maintain price points with all of the more expensive components on board (Sandy Bridge, higher capacity SSD, Thunderbolt). They must've been making serious margin on the last gen MBA.

You do realize technology not only gets better, but cheaper over time right?
 
Nope, alot still have 2 or 3GB as standard.

and they cost 500$ not 999$ (even worse, a mba 13" with 2gb ram at ~1600$... lol).

I believe the ram part, they will have a minimum of 4gb.
But the minimum ssd 128? No way that happens if they keep their current lineup style.

Which would mean 11" 128gb, 11" 256gb, 13" 256gb, 13" 512gb (this last one = NO W A Y, it costs too much). So the 128gb standard will either change the lineup, or seriously mess with people's heads (apple likes that, though ;))
 
Yeah, video is the killer for me and most people I know as far as space. Standard Def movies rip to about .5 GB, and HD movies can easily exceed 1 GB. And a lot more if you actually keep an ISO image. It's fine on my iMac (which I use as for watching movies) with an external drive, but I would have to be selective about putting media on an MBA. (Maybe copy a few films for a flight, etc).

If you aren't a media hog, or can live with an external drive (GoFlex has nice USB-powered drives), 128GB SSD can be fine. I'd probably go for 256 myself or 128 if they aren't soldered in and can buy an OWC drive.
 
Well you don't necessarily have to jump from 256 to 512GB either. There may be other options available below 512
 
The other big question here is what video card is the MBA Core i5 and i7 going to get? Same as MacBook Pro 15 with switching or just the Intel Crap3000 that they stuffed in the MacBook Pro 13? I suspect we'll see Intel 3000 across the board for power savings, but I'm hoping I am proven wrong.
 
I never knew unprofessional commentary was a reason to switch to reading something. AI likes to spin stories in theirs or Apple's favor. Every rumors site has its hits and misses. For all we know, Apple simply missed their internally targeted launch date of today.

so MacRumors.com is NOT a business? and their business is NOT rumors?

i understand the hits and misses. it's the cherry picking i have a problem with.

read the two AI articles in question and tell me if the way they were reported was accurate/responsible/complete.
 
Apple is the only company I know of that has managers that are stupid enough to postpone the release of several major (backward compatible) hardware products in order to wait for a software update that is free in any event.

The only reason I can think of for why they might be doing this (apart from unbelievable stupidity) is that the new Air, Mac Pro, and Mini have hardware components that only work with Lion.

Stupid enough to pull in $6 Billion in profit last quarter? I think your confusing your sense of entitlement ( Apple owes me an new MBA now) with what is clearly a well planed marketing decision by Apples leadership. Can you provide any rational for considering Apples decision to hold off on product introduction off until Lion is released a stupid decision other than your own selfish need for instant gratification?
 
The other big question here is what video card is the MBA Core i5 and i7 going to get? Same as MacBook Pro 15 with switching or just the Intel Crap3000 that they stuffed in the MacBook Pro 13? I suspect we'll see Intel 3000 across the board for power savings, but I'm hoping I am proven wrong.

It'll be intel. No room for anything else.
 
The other big question here is what video card is the MBA Core i5 and i7 going to get? Same as MacBook Pro 15 with switching or just the Intel Crap3000 that they stuffed in the MacBook Pro 13? I suspect we'll see Intel 3000 across the board for power savings, but I'm hoping I am proven wrong.

Of course its going to be HD3000.

The MBA is designed for portability and being able to use it for extended hours without charging, a-la iPad. HD3000 gives better battery life with the same performance on OS X. Which is a good step forward for most people.

The fact that anyone would expect a decent discrete GPU in an ultra portable is laughable. Even a decent integrated GPU is laughable at this stage.

In all honesty though the graphical complaints mainly come from the gamers, which says it all really.
 
Of course its going to be HD3000.

The MBA is designed for portability and being able to use it for extended hours without charging, a-la iPad. HD3000 gives better battery life with the same performance on OS X. Which is a good step forward for most people.

The fact that anyone would expect a decent discrete GPU in an ultra portable is laughable. Even a decent integrated GPU is laughable at this stage.

In all honesty though the graphical complaints mainly come from the gamers, which says it all really.

I wouldnt say its laughable.. we are getting pretty awesome cpu's in todays ultra portables. GPU's can do the same
 
When you wish upon a star (MacRumours website)

As the rumour mill grinds on, it is starting to seem like Apple have been reading MacRumours and will giving us what we've asked for
- Backlit keyboard
- 4GB RAM as standard
- 128 GB SDD as standard
- Sandy Bridge Processors
:eek:


Now, how about a better battery life for the 11inch MBA?
:rolleyes:

...

If only the rumours turn out to be true
;)
 
I wouldnt say its laughable.. we are getting pretty awesome cpu's in todays ultra portables. GPU's can do the same

And yet there are are still no ultra portables with both awesome GPU's to accompany said awesome CPU's.
 
I don't know about him, and maybe I'm not your typical user, but after 4 years with my 2007 MacBook with a 120GB hd, I'm only using 40GB total. I have about 4GB of music, no movies (have them on DVD/Blu-Ray and no need to play on my computer), photos from my camera, and word files, mostly. If I get the new MBA I'll probably buy some modern apps, which will use up more HD space, but don't see my digital media file space needs growing too much. 128GB should last me for the life of the MBA. :)
Apple's Developer Tools: 10 GB (Xcode 3.x) + another 10 GB (Xcode 4.x)
Applications folder: 30 GB (incl. one Lion install image/app)
VMware virtual machine: 40 GB
System and system-level library: 20 GB
And this is all outside my user folder, ie, without any actual user-generated files like music or images. But then this system is a continuous upgrade from a 2001 OS X 10.0.3 installation.
 
Wait, is the i7 an option for the 11" MBA? If so, Wow! :eek: I'd expect them to run too hot for such a thin enclosure.

Way to shrink those chips, Intel.
 
Most Windows laptops come with 32-bit versions of Windows. Limitations of memory addresses for 32-bit OSes limit the laptops (or desktops) to only using 3GB-ish of memory, even if you have more installed.

Yeah, I know that 32-bit addresses can, theoretically access up to 4GB, but I've never been able to get 32-bit Windows to recognize more than 3GB. I'm not the only one (http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm).

AFAIK it's not a Windows limitation, but a BIOS limitation.
 
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