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Yeas, Windows is terrible at memory management and this is why all enterprises use it whilts OS/X is used only for Photoshop and e-mail. :D

Enterprise uses windows for many reasons. Technical superiority is not one of them.
 
According to Best Buy -> PC Laptops (He said laptops, no netbooks)
2GB RAM - 6
3GB RAM - 19
4GB RAM - 103
6GB RAM - 38
8GB RAM - 16

27 out of 182 isn't a lot to me.

27 isn't a lot to me either, but it is 2 more than 25.
 
I am a manager in a 100+ corporation...My guess is that you are not. But hey, keep on babbling.

I agree with your points if the hardware was indeed only ready 2 weeks before the software. My guess based on rumors is that it was ready months before, in which case I disagree that it makes sense to wait.

Do you know how I know you're a manager at a 100+ person company?

You've got time to be reading and posting on this website like me lol. :D
 
Oh yeah. You just summed up my concerns... That's the only thing I dislike about the MBP 13, the screen res...

I would add the option for a matte screen. This and the measly resolution is the reason i couldn't get myself to buy a new macbook air/pro.
 
replace mbp

if the battery is good may have to replace my 15" Mbp which only keep a charge for 2 hours if im lucky.
 
I disagree. Let's put all of this in perspective. Apple caters to middle to upper class Americans. That's their market. They sell premium products. The way they have their laptops set up, you are getting a machine that serves a specific purpose, although they can all do a good number of things. If you read around on the forum, you'll see people who have more than 1 Apple product.

They'll have an Imac and an iPad, an iMac and a MacBook Pro/Air, or a MacBook pro and an Air/ipad; there are many combinations. Apple releases each product with a particular trait that makes it attractive.

The Air is small, the Pro is the full package, the iMac has an amazing screen. That's just concerning the build. With that said, people also always talk about the experience with getting Apple products.

It just works. That's what everyone says. It's easy, it's simple, it's fast, it is different. There's no denying this. Ask anyone here, that's what they'll say.

Waiting a few extra weeks to push their new OS with the most publicized and their new "staple" Laptop? That makes perfect sense. They're pushing the new MBA; hard. Why release it early when they can release it the same day and make a bigger story about it.

They can't really come out and say "hey look, refreshed airs! SNB processor, more ram, AND more hdd space!" They don't put emphasis on specs. That's not how they operate. They put emphasis on experience.

"Hey look, NEW operating system with all of these great features AND it's coming with a brand new, completely redesigned macbook air; a match made in heaven. We took the best of the ipad and macbook and combined them, AND we took the best of the iPad and computing (in terms of experienced) and combined them. "

That's generally how they are marketing Lion, if you watched the Keynote anyway.

THIS makes perfect sense.

Exactly!!!!
 
I've got the 2GB 64GB 11" model and I'd like to report that it has been quite sufficient despite my initial concerns. It is never slow with Lion gestures or video or anything, and even with an XP VM running in one desktop I still have RAM free.

I am actually quite impressed with this little machine, I was even able to play Farming Simulator 2011 on Very High settings. But I would also like to add that it is NOT my main machine, my main production machine is an i7 8GB 15" Thinkpad.

However I am wondering if I am glad I have the NVIDIA model because I was playing with my friend's MBP 13" (i7, 4GB RAM) with the Intel HD 3000 graphics and it was performing noticeably poorly compared to the Air, even with YouTube. Not sure if he has other issues going on though.

I would really liked to have a backlit keyboard though, but I can't too much complain as I haven't had any problems without it.
 
Yeas, Windows is terrible at memory management and this is why all enterprises use it whilts OS/X is used only for Photoshop and e-mail. :D

Using lots of memory isn't always a bad thing. For Windows it's a good thing. It makes everything faster.
 
Lios is a Ram Hog, i I will be happy if AIR includes a 3g or 4g or module but they are scared to underrate the ipad. Anyone prefer the 11" air with 3g than an ipad.

It's gotten much better since the GM release. Also for devices that share the main memory for graphics RAM Lion will show that as 'wired' now when before it was excluded from Activity Monitor. This means that it might 'look' like more RAM is used up on the pie chart but instead of 1.75 it says 2.00.
 
man i hope this is true, but all these rumors leading up to today are all just tease! i won't get my hopes up til i have it in hand :)
 
I've got the 2GB 64GB 11" model and I'd like to report that it has been quite sufficient despite my initial concerns. It is never slow with Lion gestures or video or anything, and even with an XP VM running in one desktop I still have RAM free.

I am actually quite impressed with this little machine, I was even able to play Farming Simulator 2011 on Very High settings. But I would also like to add that it is NOT my main machine, my main production machine is an i7 8GB 15" Thinkpad.

However I am wondering if I am glad I have the NVIDIA model because I was playing with my friend's MBP 13" (i7, 4GB RAM) with the Intel HD 3000 graphics and it was performing noticeably poorly compared to the Air, even with YouTube. Not sure if he has other issues going on though.

I would really liked to have a backlit keyboard though, but I can't too much complain as I haven't had any problems without it.

I think theres an issue with your friend's 13", as the HD3000 has performed identically to the 320m in my old C2D 13" from last year.
 
You've got to be kidding! Trust me, whether you buy now or after the update it will not matter!


Well, honestly, I'm waiting to update from the exact same machine. After getting an imac a few years ago I haven't had the need to update the laptop until now. All heavy lifting was done on the imac and I just use the powerbook for light internet usage. So why update now? I'm planning on doing a lot of traveling for the next year+ so the imac is going into a box along with all of my other possessions. And the pb just doesn't cut it anymore as an only machine...not to mention it weighs as much as a uni textbook.

11.6 ultimate, here I come!
 
if the battery is good may have to replace my 15" Mbp which only keep a charge for 2 hours if im lucky.

I would take that in to the Apple store so they could run a batter diagnostic... seems like a bad battery. They will most likely replace it for you even out of warranty if it comes up red on the diagnostic.
 
I'm at a loss as to how Apple can maintain price points with all of the more expensive components on board (Sandy Bridge, higher capacity SSD, Thunderbolt). They must've been making serious margin on the last gen MBA.

It's a thousand dollar laptop. And the price will remain the same for a year before refresh.
 
KeyNote next week

I just wish they have a keynote next week along with a new hardware announcement. Probably an iSlate to take advantage of the Mac OS X Lion touch gestures.
 
Hmmm... hard to believe. 4GB ram standard is likely, but doubling the storage is...

Has SSD gotten that much cheaper? We shall see.
 
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It will be released Tuesday July 19 at 9:31 am according to my inside sources!
 
So what is the purpose of the 13" MBP now?
For people that need some more serious computing power (likely 50% faster CPU and possibly double the RAM, ie, 8 GB, technically you can already add 16 GB) and use their laptop as their primary computer (256 GB is just not a lot once you add music, movies and images and some actual work files, eg, developer code, simulation data etc.).

(And not that those people would have to forgo the SSD, adding a second disk to a MBP is pretty easy.)

I've got the 2GB 64GB 11" model and I'd like to report that it has been quite sufficient despite my initial concerns. It is never slow with Lion gestures or video or anything, and even with an XP VM running in one desktop I still have RAM free.

Is this your only (primary) machine? I have trouble believing that somebody can have this little of digital data (once you subtract the OS and the applications).

And I don't know, after a restart, starting my 20 common apps, I already use about 2.5 GB or RAM and after a few days that goes up to between 4 to 5 GB even without using any really RAM-heavy apps like Fusion or Aperture.
 
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