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Updated Versions of iWork and iLife Begin Appearing on the App Store

No way - not for now, anyway...

I have skimmed through many of the posts in this thread and elsewhere, and all I can say is...

NO WAY AM I UPGRADING (from Snow Leopard/iLife '11/iWork '11).
Not For Now, Anyway.

I hope MacRumors will do a post on "What's Missing in iLife and iWork '13?" and detail all the lost features. Couple that with a list of what's gained so we can decide.

The GOOD News is that, apparently, the iWork '13 apps can co-exist with iWork '11 apps (and presumably the older ones). iLife is trickier, mainly because iPhoto and iMovie have their libraries. (I'm somewhat surprised Garageband hasn't gone to this model yet, but I'm not asking them to, either.)

I have yet to hear what Garageband has lost from GB '11, and since that's my favorite app, I'm going to just wait it out for now.

What sounded all so promising has turned out to be a rather troublesome, if not fearful, experience...

Time to get that external drive, I reckon...
 
I wish those weird Mac people would leave already and allow us to discuss the iOS apps, Apple don't care about you.

/kidding

How is the update on the iPad? More of the same, slower, or has there actually been some functionality improvement?
 
I'm not upgrading either. My problem is iBooks which does not allow tag editing. You could change tags and covers in iTunes (I could learn to accept iTunes 11, as horrible as it is) before, but now they moved the books out of iTunes and into iBooks you can't edit anything. This SUCKS all the way to the Moon as I have over 3000 books and articles, less than 10% of which are properly tagged. I wonder if anybody at Apple read anything nowadays. I guess they are all busy listening to music (It's pathetic to hear Tim Cook "we LOVE music") and playing with the photos of their cute kids in iPhoto to bother with customers like me. They made this clear when they released the abomination that is iOS7.
 
shanson27 said:
Works now, just set language to English and reboot your computer. :D

Then you can get the latest updates for iWork and iLife. good luck

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Thank you. That did it for me (normally my language is set to Danish). I tried the "TEST"-account, but with no luck.

Now I'm updating iLife, iWorks and Aperture :)
 
bobby68 said:
Thank you. That did it for me (normally my language is set to Danish). I tried the "TEST"-account, but with no luck.

Now I'm updating iLife, iWorks and Aperture :)
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I tried the test account also and nothing worked for me.
D/led the trial version of iWorks, rebooted and now I have
those.

What I still can't get is photo and movie.
 
something else i notice to in the App Store, if I go to where you buy Apple Apps, it shows "installed" for the iLife Apps and iWork Apps, and shows 'Download' for Mavericks.

In the Purchases section, it shows all of the software I installed except GarageBand, though still says Update to all of them that are there, even though they are the same as what I downloaded. Bugs are rather bad this time around. No wonder they were free :D.

The so called new iPhoto doesn't look any different to me yet. iMovie, well I will have to use it to find out how that is as it looks as if the features are removed/hidden.

As for iWork apps, I'm not liking the new layout, it just looks s if its gone backwards, it will never replace 'Microsoft Word' yet not by far, we will have to wait for Microsoft's release next year. 2011 Word is great.

I checked my internet usage and the updates totalled 15GB including Mavericks, that is just ridiculous.
 
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Winni said:
I guess you have never upgraded to newer versions of Microsoft Office or any other Microsoft product, then. If you had, you wouldn't post something like that.
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I've updated several windows os versions... and a couple ms office.
My total "favourite" was Office 97 to whatever version our company upgraded to next. This is when someone in MS had a rush of blood to the head and said, "Ribbons, lots of ribbons", and proceeded to shuffle the object control pack for all office apps.
Guess where tools is?
Guess where view zoom is?
That thing you knew before... guess where it is now?
That sort of thing.

That took me a year to bed down with the changes.

Then whatever version of Win OS that lost the Start button. That was cool.
And every subsequent version of windows that treats you like a child and hides controls away from you. And the obscure multiple clicks for a menu item, then click again to confirm for something that was a simple single click before.

Oh yes, WE all KNOW about Microsoft upgrades... and improvements.

That's why I am here in Macrumours, with my Mac computer and software saying how much a retrograde step it is when, the company I purposely switched to, Apple against MS, decided not to listen to it's customers... and dumb down their latest versions of iWork.

Yes, I know Numbers is pants. We all know that. Pages and Keynote were good though.

MS Excel is the king of spreadsheets. That doesn't mean I hate using the Mac MS Office 2011 version (the latest version I believe for Macs).

Word is excellent, when it isn't trying to add a language tag for every word you type in a document. So thats when you collaborate and someone corrects or adds one word, now your carefully crafted doc is multilingual not a single language.

So it doesn't recognise, "recognize" or other American english words because it doesn't know what to choose as default language. You should know that being in Germany and writing English.

Or Powerpoint which took several versions to be as good as IBM's Freelance graphics and still failed. I was doing interactive stuff in 1995 with Freelance that MS Powerpoint only figured ten years later.

My lame attempt to say that Apple shouldn't employ Ex MS employees to help upgrade iWork Apps, was a poor joke. from my perspective MS never listened to customers. Apple has just done the same.

They are all crap at listening to customers, and what they actually want/like.
No upgrade goes smoothly. Some programmer somewhere always drops the ball.
And we all suffer. Ribbons all over again.
 
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To date I've owned 5 different Mac desktops, 3 laptops, 4 iPhones, 3 iPods and many accessories, but I have to wait till I buy another Mac or iOS device till I get iWork and iLife for free. Well that's not very productive!
 
numlock said:
how is the new imovie? from the pictures it seems have gone somewhat back to the imovie 06 version
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I never used iMovie 06, but I have grown to enjoy iMovie 11. I think the basics are intuitive, and there is still room to grow, creatively. It's no pro app, I understand, but it does what it does well.

The new iMovie is by no means an upgrade, an update, or anywhere close to the last version. It's a video editor (I guess) of some sort, but unintuitive and only basically functional. Fortunately the "upgrade" doesn't overwrite the old iMovie; they both exist side by side in the app folder. Thanks to Apple for that. They must've known iMovie fans wouldn't like the new version.

I haven't used an iPhone version of iMovie, but the new version for Mac appears to be something more suited for a phone or tablet.
 
Great.. instead of extending the iOS version of Keynote with features which are apparent on the OSX version, Apple decided to remove them, like Smart Builds. So now we got a degraded iOS version of iWork running on OSX.. :confused:
 
Drewski said:
I never used iMovie 06, but I have grown to enjoy iMovie 11. I think the basics are intuitive, and there is still room to grow, creatively. It's no pro app, I understand, but it does what it does well.

The new iMovie is by no means an upgrade, an update, or anywhere close to the last version. It's a video editor (I guess) of some sort, but unintuitive and only basically functional. Fortunately the "upgrade" doesn't overwrite the old iMovie; they both exist side by side in the app folder. Thanks to Apple for that. They must've known iMovie fans wouldn't like the new version.

I haven't used an iPhone version of iMovie, but the new version for Mac appears to be something more suited for a phone or tablet.
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that sounds rather disappointing. it obviously spells out that their only direction is trying to dumb the app down.

imovie 06 was to me amazing at its time and with plugin support could be so much more than just a little video editor (perhaps they felt it threatened the final cut section somewhat).

but to make two drastic changes in a single app in just a few years and disregard and rile up its userbase i find appalling. then again i guess the pros could almost argue the same thing.
 
Hello,

I installed Mavericks, iLife and iWorks.
everything went ok, except one glitch.
I downloaded iPhoto 9.5 and according to the MAS, it was installed, but I still have the iPhoto 9.43 on my MBP.

Can't download it again because it was installed according to the MAS.
Does anyone know a workaround?

thanks in advance.
 
Zendokan said:
Hello,

I installed Mavericks, iLife and iWorks.
everything went ok, except one glitch.
I downloaded iPhoto 9.5 and according to the MAS, it was installed, but I still have the iPhoto 9.43 on my MBP.

Can't download it again because it was installed according to the MAS.
Does anyone know a workaround?

thanks in advance.
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Same thing happened to me on GarageBand.
 
truelies said:
Same thing happened to me on GarageBand.
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Garageband wasn't in my "purchased" list in MAS, although I had bought it (was on my MBP).
So I did a search in MAS, found it, saw that it was also an update and downloaded it. -> garageband 10.0 installed besides garageband 6.0.5 on my MBP.

Both worked perfect, even at the same time...so I uninstalled garageband 6.0.5.

I'm expecting a few glitches, being an early adapter.
For the rest Mav, iLife and iWorks work great.
 
Word of warning, do not delete the old versions of iWork if you have something important to work on today or a presentation to give.
New Keynote is ridiculously slow. Just tried to open my lecture for today and it took 4 minutes whereas on the old version it took max of 20 seconds and there's a delay in switching slides.
Thankfully the old versions still are in the Applications folder!
 
I installed a 30day trial version of Aperture 3, and lo and behold the App Store updated it to Aperture 3.5 :eek:

I think this is gotten way out of hand...

EDIT: I updated an iWork 09 copy on DVD and I´m cool with that, but the Aperture thing makes me feel kind of bad.
 
alstrike said:
I installed a 30day trial version of Aperture 3, and lo and behold the App Store updated it to Aperture 3.5 :eek:

I think this is gotten way out of hand...

EDIT: I updated an iWork 09 copy on DVD and I´m cool with that, but the Aperture thing makes me feel kind of bad.
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iWork is a bug. You can't expect all apple apps like this.
 
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