Updates to Apple's iMac Line Reportedly 'Imminent'

[JohnPhamlore]

Clayton Morris just committed the biggest blunder

Other than committing a crime, Clayton Morris just committed the biggest blunder he could have possibly committed. Clayton Morris just proved he is no more in the loop, has no more access, than any random blogger.

When the Wall Street Journal talks about Apple rumors they speak confidently, with the voice they have access, they are in the loop. Clayton Morris' embarrassing backtracking now claiming that "imminent" can meet several weeks, an estimate anyone on this forum could have just as easily made, is just laughable. He's just guessing. And guessing means he doesn't know and wasn't considered important enough to be told. And in his position, that's the one thing someone should never admit.

I don't know why these people haven't learned by now that people who do their own publicity handling have a fool for a client. Use the services of a professional, please.

 

[quickmac]

And what about the Mac Pro line?

I wanted to buy one for years now but they haven't updated them much in years. So I went out and built my own desktop PC. I imagine that's what a lot of Mac Pro users/those wanting a Mac Pro will do if Apple doesn't release one soon.

 

[tbrinkma]

This just proves that Macs are for women and other superficial types and are not proper computers for doing actual work. Unless it comes in a different colour I doubt that it would make any difference to her.

Wait...

She bought a new Mac now because she doesn't follow sites like this, so she's not aware there's a new version likely to be announced soon.

That means she's a superficial type?
And it also means Macs aren't "proper computers for doing actual work"?

Sounds like we know who's a "superficial type" here.

She bought a computer which meets her needs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

[greytmom]

All this coming from someone with DVD in his name. Funny.

He used to be Floppy Gizmo but that was sending the wrong message.

 

[Confuzzzed]

Other than committing a crime, Clayton Morris just committed the biggest blunder he could have possibly committed. Clayton Morris just proved he is no more in the loop, has no more access, than any random blogger.

When the Wall Street Journal talks about Apple rumors they speak confidently, with the voice they have access, they are in the loop. Clayton Morris' embarrassing backtracking now claiming that "imminent" can meet several weeks, an estimate anyone on this forum could have just as easily made, is just laughable. He's just guessing. And guessing means he doesn't know and wasn't considered important enough to be told. And in his position, that's the one thing someone should never admit.

I don't know why these people haven't learned by now that people who do their own publicity handling have a fool for a client. Use the services of a professional, please.

Spot on! Can't disagree with any of that

 

[Macboy Pro]

no, because iMac != Mac Mini != Mac Pro != MacBook and so on




It is more like: pay-a-****-load-of-money-to-fix-a-tiny-part

EXACTLY. This is why I am so opposed to the Macbook Pro Retina line. To gain 3/16 of an inch in thinness, you give up the optical drive, wired ethernet, and the ability to repair anything under $1.5k. You end of up with a $2.5K to $4k paperweight after 1-3 years depending on if you buy $350 applecare. IMO, not worth the 3/16 of an inch. Good for Apples business though. You get the WOW factor and you sucker people into disposable laptops that they will come back to you for replacement quicker.

 

[at0m]

Just hope the Mac Mini will get some love too.. I still don't like the All-in-one throw-everything-away-when-one-part-breaks concept.

I hope the mini gets some updates as well ( Maybe the guts of the 15" MBPr ), It doesn't seem to get much love on the forums but it's a great little machine for general use and light gaming ( with radeon card ). I switched to the mini last year when my PC desktop started to act up and couldn't be happier ( it's the first desktop computer I've owned that I didn't assemble from individual components ).

The mac mini allows me the huge advantage of being able to select whatever monitor I like and keep it between upgrades ( Nice Dell 27" with multiple inputs for way less than the 27" apple display ).

I do agree with some posts I've seen that it's needlessly small, it could be produced using a mini tower with desktop components and deliver more bang for the buck.

 

[Gandir]

Drive might be a waste of space for some but for others it's important.
Tell me, what am i supposed to do with the drawers full of stock photography and clip art discs I have but don't need to access every day?

Storing them all on an external drive is not a worthwhile option. Why have to by a drive when they're already stored on good media? Store to the cloud, ya, right. Again pay for something I don't need and oh, yeah, not possible due to the licensing agreements.

People really need to think outside own their own small, selfish ideas and realize people use their computers for more than online games, messaging, and surfing the web. Does having that drive in the machine really bother you? if it does, there's therapy available for that.

Buy an extranal DVD? Would be easy enough so we that does not want an old dead format. I have not had a DVD/CD or Blu-ray for for that matter in over 7 years and I have never missed it. It would be better for Apple to use that space for replaceable harddrives "sure I know replacable and Apple is a dream".

 

[bankshot]

I hope they axe the Disc drive. Such a waste of space.

Add me to the minority who would like to keep the drive, at least in the 27" model. It's not like they're hurting for space there. And you know that if Apple removes it, they won't (a) reduce the price accordingly, or (b) put something else useful there like a second hard drive. It's just not their way. Instead, removal of the optical drive will mean a few more percentage points of profit.

My only use for an optical drive is to import purchased media, but that's still a big one for me. Until iTunes or Amazon decides to start selling lossless tracks (something that should have happened long ago, but that's another rant), most music I buy is still on CD. And DVD is still the only way to purchase movies/tv effectively without DRM (since it's so easy to break).

If they do get rid of it, I'll have some quick thinking to do: (a) get a new iMac anyway and resign myself to either using an older machine to import media or buying an external drive, or (b) get a 2011 refurb model before they disappear. Hopefully I don't have to make that choice.

 

[NorthernSoul]

I would hate it if Apple dropped the Optical Drive.
*Yes, I know I am in a minority here*

as a designer I still save things to a CD/DVD. I get artwork from people and photographers on DVD.

Yes Some places allow for FTP upload/download or via internet/website. but not all. When I make a movie and want to show someone I create a DVD and easy to watch anywhere. my Father-in-law does not have a computer/the internet and still wants to see a video of his grandson...DVD. easy
oh and the DVD we get with photos and video of the sonogram and all the other photos on DVD from the Dr's will be much easier to access with an Optical Drive.

But all that said I clearly see the day when Apple will dissolve it and think that is fine.

**Bought parents a Mac Mini for CHristmas last year and within a month needed to buy them an external DVD Drive...it looks really ugly now but they had software they just got that needed an optical drive**

Just signed up to flag this up - us photographers are people too, you know!

Seriously though, as a tog, I burn images to disc all the time - it's the only reliable way to ensure clients (general public, not b2b) are able to view their images. Here in the UK the broadband infrastructure isn't yet at a point where dropboxing 2gb of images to a client is a reliable enough method of delivery, so everything gets burned to DVD an sent by mail.

Saying that, I do use a MacBook Air a lot of the time, and get by with an external DVD burner when needed.

 

[WilliamG]

Apple, if you're reading this, please bring back the display IN feature of the 2009/2010 27" iMac. I greatly enjoy playing my PS3/XBOX 360 on my 27" iMac, and since you removed this ability with the advent of Thunderbolt, I haven't upgraded my 2009 iMac.

I'd like to, but only if you let me use my iMac as a display. Thank you.

(One can hope, right?)

 

[webbuzz]

Other than committing a crime, Clayton Morris just committed the biggest blunder he could have possibly committed. Clayton Morris just proved he is no more in the loop, has no more access, than any random blogger.

When the Wall Street Journal talks about Apple rumors they speak confidently, with the voice they have access, they are in the loop. Clayton Morris' embarrassing backtracking now claiming that "imminent" can meet several weeks, an estimate anyone on this forum could have just as easily made, is just laughable. He's just guessing. And guessing means he doesn't know and wasn't considered important enough to be told. And in his position, that's the one thing someone should never admit.

I don't know why these people haven't learned by now that people who do their own publicity handling have a fool for a client. Use the services of a professional, please.

Committing a crime?

 

[johnnydollar]

Fox News went all the way to the Supreme Court arguing against the idea that a self-described 'News' show has a duty to tell the truth to it's audience (and they eventually won). Their argument? Despite the name, they're an *entertainment* show, so they can knowingly lie to their audience.

The court's ruling had nothing to do with telling the truth or lying, or being an 'entertainment show', because the case wasn't about lying or telling the truth or news vs entertainment. It was about wrongful termination of an employee. This is clear to anyone who reads the court decision. This whole notion of the case being about a 'right to knowingly lie' was invented by the losing party--that issue never came up at trial, the appellate court was never asked to rule on it, and therefore it played no role whatsoever in the court's decision! Oh and for the record, it wasn't Fox News who fired the aggrieved employees; it was a local tv station that aired Fox tv network programs. And the case didn't go 'all the way to the Supreme Court'; it was a Florida Court of Appeals decision. A factual summary of what happened in this case can be found here:
http://johnnydollar.us/2008a/sre267918713.html

Other than that...I'd like to see new iMacs too.

 

[JAT]

Image

If only...

Where's the number keypad? Your wishes are incomplete.

 

[BJMRamage]

Just signed up to flag this up - us photographers are people too, you know!

Doh!!

serious case of thinking of a bunch of things to write and removing/editing back and not paying attention to everything I write.

I know when we get photos of our son from portraits places they've all been on CD/DVD. and the several Photographers sessions came with Discs. a few images sent emailed/posted online but the full package was on Disc.

the all-in-one package is nice when it is all-in-one...not with many plugs, cords.

And again, i can see Apple doing it and understand it also really helps their App store and iTunes income.

 

[tYNS]

Sad

Don't mean to be a downer. I have been using Quadra's, PowerMac's and MacPro's in production for decades. In the last 2-3 years, apple has seemed to change their market focus drastically. They no longer seem to care about pro computers and they are now focussing on catering to a very volatile consumer market. This is a market that would leave apple in an instance if something better came out somewhere else. As a stock holder, I am also worried.

I recently implemented my first Windows Workstation in my production line. I could no longer wait for Apple to build a machine that incorporates modern hardware at a reasonable price. To be honest, Windows, while not as elegant as Snow Leopard was, is pretty darn fast and very inexpensive for the speed.

Apple used to be right on top of hardware releases, now they seem not to care at all. We literally are fed up of this new focus of apple. It is hard to swallow a $3-4000 price tag on a mac pro with 2 year old tech in it... or a 1 1/2 year old imac that is a laptop in monitor shell.

Macrumors used to be an exciting place that would discuss desktop technologies to come . Now it has fizzled to a bunch of "who really cares" leaked photos of iphone cases and doc connectors. Maybe I am old, but when I was starting in the creative industry.. Apple's innovation with software and hardware inspired us all to venture into more creative mediums. Now, it is hard to get excited at all.

I have a feeling apple will be losing a lot of longtime "loyal" customers over the next year. Mountain Lion has become a hybrid of ios with a lot of quirky implementations of services. It disbanded professional time tested features to reinvent the wheel for people who don't get computers. It has become bloated. Most of our machines stopped upgrading past Snow Leopard.

We are testing the Windows machine in our production, and so far... we love it.

 

[Ifti]

Hope they do the Mac Mini as well. Seems like Ive been waiting ags!

 

[garbageman]

Woah, chill out, Grandpa. I don't use my iMac for "online games".

1. And? It could be thinner.
2. As I said, like other people do, they replace the stupid OD drive for another Storage drive.
3. See above. It's not expensive. Maybe back in your day $100 for 2TB was expensive, but it's not anymore.
4. Could. See Macbook Air (wait, no disc drive, you probably would never look at it)
5. Weight is for Apples sake. Less weight = cheaper to ship to stores.

So much anger in you.

Does anyone else see the irony that the user named "GizmoDVD" is against optical drives?

 

[WizardHunt]

Question: A few years back all but the highest end iMac's were made from all laptop parts, is this still the case? Do any of the iMac's have a desktop class processor? I see all the video cards have the "M" attatchment. But are they all still basically laptops in a larger case?

Well the current iMacs on the market have a 2GB Video Option and you don't see that in a Laptop now do you? So they are not laptops in a large case I disagree with you.

 

[moderately]

Just hope the Mac Mini will get some love too.. I still don't like the All-in-one throw-everything-away-when-one-part-breaks concept.

My White iMac5,1 has never had any problems that don't stem from being 6 years old, ie RAM is maxed out at 4gb (and maybe using only 3 of that) and running slow with some programs. Maybe I would have to throw it away or pay a lot to fix but I have had my use of it.

 

[The Samurai]

Heres my wishlist which I put up last night

 

[Old Muley]

Holy crap. I only read a couple of responses to this, but jeezus! Grandparents complaining about the loss of the 8 track players and in a thread about the iMac of all things as if it's something special.

I just came here to once again say: WTF APPLE???!!! WHERE'S THE MAC PRO UPDATES YOU ****ING TARDS?

and...I'm done. Carry on.

So I shouldn't bring up wanting a SCSI port and ADB?

 

[dkersten]

So why not add a Floppy drive?

Because optical drives are still in use and beneficial. While distributing software digitally, either over the internet or by flash drives, is gaining steam, it is not a fully viable option right now. Look at all the people on this forum that complain every time Apple releases a new operating system that there is no option to buy a physical disk and (correct me if I'm wrong) or flash drive.

I agree that the optical drive is a dying technology and is on its way out the door. That's why it makes sense to axe the optical drive on laptops (which I fully support), where space is quite limited, but is not necessary on desktops because there is a lot more room for physical components and heat dissipation.

But knowing Apple they will choose style/design over functionality (which is completely stupid for a desktop) and get rid of the optical drive, one or two generations too early

 

[tYNS]

Well the current iMacs on the market have a 2GB Video Option and you don't see that in a Laptop now do you? So they are not laptops in a large case I disagree with you.

Unfortunately, this day and age... Especially with the growing market for GPGPU processing and the upcoming OpenCL integration for creative apps... The graphic card is more the computer than the CPU. Yes, apple uses laptop GPU's in the iMac's. For anyone involved in graphics, the GPU is the most critical component, that and RAM.

The most important thing with the GPU is well written drivers to take advantage of the potential of all the power.

 

[cppguy]

Tell me, what am i supposed to do with the drawers full of stock photography and clip art discs I have but don't need to access every day?

External drives. I have large stacks of bare 2GB drives and a docking station. I eliminated DVD backups years ago, and shredded all my disks. Now bare drives are my disks.