Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

[absan85]

Hey guys. Finally after 6 years using my 15’ Mid 2014 MBP im finally considering to upgrade my ssd. Im student and would like a suggestion which Nvme I should get to use for at least 2-3 years. What i read Sabrent is the best option and which Sabrent i should get

1. Sabrent 500GB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD​

2.Sabrent 512GB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280​

Or any Nvme that best in performance for my model.

and last question should i apply the 424.0.0.0 FIXED by macpro_mid2014?
Im now running Big Sur 11.0.1 Release Candidate

Thanks in advance

 

[Superhai]

Im now running Big Sur 11.0.1 Release Candidate

Thanks in advance

You already have the correct bootrom in that case. For the NVMe drive just choose the cheapest of the ones that are compatible.

 

[edevmon]

Hi everyone

I have a rMBP 13' Mid 2014. This is my only computer and I use it for study, work and personal stuff, including heavy video editing, heavy audio production, family business documents and coding.
Originally, this had a 256GB SSD and I was afraid of opening it up and breaking something or losing my data if I tried to replace it. I didn't want to deal with terminal commands, chip programmers or Matt cards. After reading about the new BootRom, I decided to go for:
- Silicon Power 2 Tb SSD
- Kalea Informatique long adapter (Sintech's short one isn't available in Amazon Spain anymore)

Process:
1. Backed up everything (just like I would normally do using Time Machine)
2. Downloaded MacOS Catalina installer & created a USB install drive.
3. Installed MacOS Big Sur Beta, so my BootRom went from 142.0.0.0.0 to 424.0.0.0.0
4. Opened the MacBook and replaced the SSD stick
5. Formatted the new SSD from Disk Utility and installed MacOS Catalina from scratch using the USB drive

Then I reinstalled all my apps and recovered all my files from TM.
The new SSD is way faster according to Blackmagic test. The system wakes up perfectly fine when I close the lid and open it again after a few mins/hours. It also comes back after hibernation when I reach 0% battery and plug it in. No commands, no adjustments of any kind. It's been two times now that I left it unplugged over night, lid closed, and I have almost 100% battery in the morning as well (Wifi on and my usual apps open; as I would do before the SSD replacement).
I think Apple fixed (intentionally or not) the BootRom NVMe driver load in the latest updates. I hope 427.0.0.0 works well too.

I've also monitored this SSD's power consumption and I find it quite efficient, close to the Sabrent Rocket o Corsair MP510 numbers.
Many times it is consuming 0,00A when idle, sometimes going to 0,15-0,20A, which means about 0,5W. When stressing the unit with the Blackmagic test, it goes up to 1,01A which means around 3,33 W.
All monitored using iStats SSD 3.3V reads.

I also bought a Sintech external case for the Apple SSD. I put it on the top case of the MacBook using a couple of velcro strips, so it makes for a total of 2 Tb (internal) + 256 GB (Apple's) + 1 Tb (external Samsung 860 QVO).

So thank you very much to everyone. As I said, I was afraid of breaking anything, so I read almost every post in this thread before doing it, watched a lot of YouTube videos of people changing their Mac SSDs and found the iFixit guide very helpful during the whole process.
Spanish version of this: Ampliar el SSD del MacBook Pro Retina 13” (Mid 2014)

Side note: since I already had the MacBook open, I took the time to change the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU dies. I used Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (beware of the Liquid Metal one, as it is corrosive and conductive) but I don't know at what temperature the CPU was running before, so it's hard for me to say if I put the paste right or how much a difference it makes. It's around 50ºC now on normal load (web browsing, telegram, mail, iTunes).
Could anyone post his reads please? I'm using iStats and I take the CPU Proximity sensor as a reference.

 

[turkay]

I can confirm that the Big Sur upgrade has fixed the hibernation issues with mid 2013 Macbook Air, tested with power adapter connected and disconnected. After applying power saver defaults, I have left the laptop lid closed and disconnected from the power adapter before midnight. The screen came up instantly when I checked it in the morning. I let it suck all the power with playing youtube videos. A few hours later it went to sleep mode and came up online after I connect it to power. Everything is working as it should.

My setup is black, small Sintech adapter (tape was applied out of the box) with Adata XPG 8200 pro 1 TB.

 

[MauriceG]

You already have the correct bootrom in that case. For the NVMe drive just choose the cheapest of the ones that are compatible.

You might focus on power usage. Both the WD blue sn550 and Intel 665p use moderate power and are affordable. You won’t benefit from a high performance SSD (more expensive, more energy so less battery time, no speed gain). I applied a 2TB Intel 660p. Bit disappointed by the reduced battery time.

 

[duuude]

Hi folks. Created a new account to tell everybody: Thank You so much!
I have a Macbook Air 2013 and just installed Big Sur on my old original Apple SSD. After that my Bootrom is now 427.0.0.0.0
Then plugged the new NVMe (Crucial P1) in and installed Catalina. Hibernation works! Test: hibernation mode 25 -> sleep -> wait few minutes cause I am a litte superstisious -> press any key and be happy

It seems apple still gives a f** about the old Macbook Air

 

[Banglapur]

Hello
How to choose ssd for a macbook air. Adata sx8200 pro 512Gb (SM2262EN controller) or samsung evo 970 500Gb. The price is the same 70$

 

[xboxbml]

I can confirm that the Big Sur upgrade has fixed the hibernation issues with mid 2013 Macbook Air, tested with power adapter connected and disconnected. After applying power saver defaults, I have left the laptop lid closed and disconnected from the power adapter before midnight. The screen came up instantly when I checked it in the morning. I let it suck all the power with playing youtube videos. A few hours later it went to sleep mode and came up online after I connect it to power. Everything is working as it should.

My setup is black, small Sintech adapter (tape was applied out of the box) with Adata XPG 8200 pro 1 TB.

Excellent!! Good job!

 

[zeveto]

Hi,

Unfortunatellly, i upgraded my Macbook Air (2013) to Big Sur and i stil have the 122.0.0.0.0 bootrom version.

Does anyone have an explanation please ?

 

[macpro_mid2014]

Hi,

Unfortunatellly, i upgraded my Macbook Air (2013) to Big Sur and i stil have the 122.0.0.0.0 bootrom version.

Does anyone have an explanation please ?

Keep installing to the latest version: Big Sur 11.0.1 Release Candidate. Open System Preference and click Software Update, click inside the window and then press Cmd+R to load the latest update.

 

[zeveto]

Keep installing to the latest version: Big Sur 11.0.1 Release Candidate. Open System Preference and click Software Update, click inside the window and then press Cmd+R to load the latest update.

Thank you so much. it worked very well.

 

[fondacio2020]

Hello everyone. Based on the information in this thread, I have successfully upgraded my 15 inch 2015 MBP from 512 GB to 1 TB using a Sintech adapter and a Kingston A2000. I have been trying to find out if I can use the old SSD to upgrade the storage in a mid-2013 Macbook Air - I have an old 11 inch mid-2013 MBA lying around, while my brother has 13 inch MBA from the same year. I know that Apple switched to PCIe storage in that generation and using my old MBP SSD might be a nice way to upgrade either machine without an adapter and the accompanying sleep issues, but I have not been able to find any confirmation that the drive will actually be supported. Does anyone here know?

 

[furqanmasmin]

I can confirm that the Big Sur upgrade has fixed the hibernation issues with mid 2013 Macbook Air, tested with power adapter connected and disconnected. After applying power saver defaults, I have left the laptop lid closed and disconnected from the power adapter before midnight. The screen came up instantly when I checked it in the morning. I let it suck all the power with playing youtube videos. A few hours later it went to sleep mode and came up online after I connect it to power. Everything is working as it should.

My setup is black, small Sintech adapter (tape was applied out of the box) with Adata XPG 8200 pro 1 TB.

hi @turkay ! i am use macbook air 11 early 2014. and i upgrade same nvme like yours Adata XPG 8200 pro 1 TB. i dont really care about hibernation problem that i am still facing it. but the biggest problem is i cannot install bootcamp on it. when i try to install bootcamp, sometimes it cannot detect my nvme, sometimes it detect and can install but when windows try to boot 1st time after reboot, it will crash blue screen. do u have advice? thanks in advance!

 

[turkay]

hi @turkay ! i am use macbook air 11 early 2014. and i upgrade same nvme like yours Adata XPG 8200 pro 1 TB. i dont really care about hibernation problem that i am still facing it. but the biggest problem is i cannot install bootcamp on it. when i try to install bootcamp, sometimes it cannot detect my nvme, sometimes it detect and can install but when windows try to boot 1st time after reboot, it will crash blue screen. do u have advice? thanks in advance!

I did not install bootcamp yet but if I remember right there were some workarounds at page 1 of this thread regarding installing bootcamp.

 

[furqanmasmin]

I did not install bootcamp yet but if I remember right there were some workarounds at page 1 of this thread regarding installing bootcamp.

Ok @turkay tq mate..

 

[furqanmasmin]

Ok @turkay tq mate..

Tq @turkay for mention about workaround at page 1. I am successfully install bootcamp. But new problem appear. When i disconnect bootcamp from power source, windows get freeze and suddenly blue screen. Do you facing this problem also?

Update: no issue about windows get freeze when i set power profile from balanced to performance(high)...

 

[otosan]

Hello everyone. Based on the information in this thread, I have successfully upgraded my 15 inch 2015 MBP from 512 GB to 1 TB using a Sintech adapter and a Kingston A2000. I have been trying to find out if I can use the old SSD to upgrade the storage in a mid-2013 Macbook Air - I have an old 11 inch mid-2013 MBA lying around, while my brother has 13 inch MBA from the same year. I know that Apple switched to PCIe storage in that generation and using my old MBP SSD might be a nice way to upgrade either machine without an adapter and the accompanying sleep issues, but I have not been able to find any confirmation that the drive will actually be supported. Does anyone here know?

Yes it will work, with faster speed as well. All 2013-2017 air and 2013-2015 pro drives are swapable one to each other.

 

[Spiros Poullos]

(tape was applied out of the box)

What do you mean by applying tape?

 

[kvic]

About idle power consumption. With display on & no input activity for a minute or two, SN550 idles at 0.26A or 0.00A accodring to iStat Menu. I don't understand the exact logic of transitions but eventually it will idle at 0.00A, meaning beyond measurable.

With NVMeFix, SN550 idles at 0.23A or 0.00A - a reduction of 30mA. Given that the SSD automatically idles at 0.00A most of the time. I won't bother with NVMeFix if its installation is troublesome for you.

I had another short session with the MacBook. I think get the behaviour of "SSD 3.3V" transitions i.e on 2015 13-inch MBP + WD SN550 1TB.

When is "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A. Should you believe it's truly close to 0A?

When the machine is connected to AC power, idle current is always around 0.26A (or 0.23A with NVMeFix). Only when disconnected from AC power, things start to change. Idle current remains 0.26A (or 0.23A...) but after idling between 2 to 8 minutes, it drops to 0.00A.

"SSD 3.3V" readings should come from Apple's SMC that measures current supplied to the SSD 3.3V power rail. So I tend to believe it's accurate account of the actual power usage (most of the time except when it's 0.00A). One counter example for the exception.

Disconnect the machine from AC power. Let it idle to 0.00A. If you re-connect AC power now, "SSD 3.3V" (as well as "PBus") will go back to some "sane" values immediately. But for this experiment. Let AC remain disconnected. Fire up BlackMagic and run it a few times, "SSD 3.3V" remains 0.00A through out the runs! That shows the reading definitely not correct when 0.00A is displayed. I could see SN550's temperature rising towards mid-40C. So it's is working hard.

Hopefully this is just a glitch in Apple's SMC after the SSD gets right out of lower power states. I don't know what's the exact behaviour of the original Apple SSD. I remember seeing 0.03A as lowest but can't recall if it's on AC power or not.

Actual power usage when "SSD 3.3V" reads 0.00A

Simply can't tell but we could make an educated guess. I believe APST is enabled by Apple for compatible 3rd-party NVMe SSDs. For SN550, take 0.26A as the "active idle" current. It yields about 858mW "active idle" power consumption. Very close to 964mW measured by Tom's Hardware (sorry, can't find a better source). Assume the difference comes from better efficiency in Apple's NVMe driver or simply due to Tom's tests in a desktop environment.

A pristine battery for 2015 13-inch MBP is 74.9Wh. SN550 idle current thus induces about 1.15% battery drop per hour. An original battery should have aged quite a bit over the years, this percentage will appear even larger. So with "Standby" disabled (sudo pmset -a standby 0). Let the MacBook sleep a couple of hours. At the end, calculate the % battery drop per hour over the whole sleep period.

For SN550, if the battery loss is lower than 2% per hour, safe to bet "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A may actually mean close to 0A consumption. If the battery loss is higher than 2%, SN550 idle current is probably not the culprit of your battery drain BUT we aren't sure "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A actually means close to 0A idle current either.

However, we have a fix to solve the "drain" by triggering hibernation sooner. Apple's default is 3hr. During this time, if the machine drains 2% per hour, accumulated drop will be about 6% regardless how many more hours the machine hibernate after the first 3hr. If overnight "drain" is, say, 25%, it actually implies a likely 8.33% drop per hour.

This explains changing "standbydelaylow" and "standbydelayhigh" from 3hr to 25min helped achieving near "zero" drain in our overnight sleep.

Finally reached peace of mind. Cheers.

 

[turkay]

What do you mean by applying tape?

There was a black tape applied near to the connectors. 1st post of this thread shows exactly what it is and where to apply. They call it kapton tape, which is durable in hot environments.

 

[zeveto]

Hi all,

Everything works perfectely with hibernation mode with the new bootrom (MBA 2013). Thank you so much.

Now when the installation is about to complete I get a blue screen on the first reboot. I can not enter the regedit to make the necessary changes (Post on the first page). Windows tells me that there is no administrator account yet.

Any advice please ?

 

[MauriceG]

I had another short session with the MacBook. I think get the behaviour of "SSD 3.3V" transitions i.e on 2015 13-inch MBP + WD SN550 1TB.

When is "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A. Should you believe it's truly close to 0A?

When the machine is connected to AC power, idle current is always around 0.26A (or 0.23A with NVMeFix). Only when disconnected from AC power, things start to change. Idle current remains 0.26A (or 0.23A...) but after idling between 2 to 8 minutes, it drops to 0.00A.

"SSD 3.3V" readings should come from Apple's SMC that measures current supplied to the SSD 3.3V power rail. So I tend to believe it's accurate account of the actual power usage (most of the time except when it's 0.00A). One counter example for the exception.

Disconnect the machine from AC power. Let it idle to 0.00A. If you re-connect AC power now, "SSD 3.3V" (as well as "PBus") will go back to some "sane" values immediately. But for this experiment. Let AC remain disconnected. Fire up BlackMagic and run it a few times, "SSD 3.3V" remains 0.00A through out the runs! That shows the reading definitely not correct when 0.00A is displayed. I could see SN550's temperature rising towards mid-40C. So it's is working hard.

Hopefully this is just a glitch in Apple's SMC after the SSD gets right out of lower power states. I don't know what's the exact behaviour of the original Apple SSD. I remember seeing 0.03A as lowest but can't recall if it's on AC power or not.

Actual power usage when "SSD 3.3V" reads 0.00A

Simply can't tell but we could make an educated guess. I believe APST is enabled by Apple for compatible 3rd-party NVMe SSDs. For SN550, take 0.26A as the "active idle" current. It yields about 858mW "active idle" power consumption. Very close to 964mW measured by Tom's Hardware (sorry, can't find a better source). Assume the difference comes from better efficiency in Apple's NVMe driver or simply due to Tom's tests in a desktop environment.

A pristine battery for 2015 13-inch MBP is 74.9Wh. SN550 idle current thus induces about 1.15% battery drop per hour. An original battery should have aged quite a bit over the years, this percentage will appear even larger. So with "Standby" disabled (sudo pmset -a standby 0). Let the MacBook sleep a couple of hours. At the end, calculate the % battery drop per hour over the whole sleep period.

For SN550, if the battery loss is lower than 2% per hour, safe to bet "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A may actually mean close to 0A consumption. If the battery loss is higher than 2%, SN550 idle current is probably not the culprit of your battery drain BUT we aren't sure "SSD 3.3V" = 0.00A actually means close to 0A idle current either.

However, we have a fix to solve the "drain" by triggering hibernation sooner. Apple's default is 3hr. During this time, if the machine drains 2% per hour, accumulated drop will be about 6% regardless how many more hours the machine hibernate after the first 3hr. If overnight "drain" is, say, 25%, it actually implies a likely 8.33% drop per hour.

This explains changing "standbydelaylow" and "standbydelayhigh" from 3hr to 25min helped achieving near "zero" drain in our overnight sleep.

Finally reached peace of mind. Cheers.

Nice to read your analysis. Some words about the SSD’s current during battery power.
My system is a MBP 2015 13” with a 2TB Intel 660p. I’m sure that in the recent past, the idle current of the SSD would drop to 0.00 / 0.18A (with NVMEfix installed, battery power/net power). But the 0.00 would raise immediately in case of disk activity. It now remains 0.00 (unless there is disk activity for more than a few minutes).

so what has changed?
- new security patch release Catalina (November)
- new version of IStat menus (2 November, version 6.5)

 

[Superhai]

Hi all,

Everything works perfectely with hibernation mode with the new bootrom (MBA 2013). Thank you so much.

Now when the installation is about to complete I get a blue screen on the first reboot. I can not enter the regedit to make the necessary changes (Post on the first page). Windows tells me that there is no administrator account yet.

Any advice please ?

Did you make the custom iso from bootcamp?

 

[raffozeta]

Hello guys! My MacBook Air early 2015 is having kernel panics multiple times in a day. In the first 4-5 months no issues at all. I used the crucial P1 ssd and the Sintech adapter you find in the link later.
(https://www.amazon.it/Sintech-M-2-Nvme-Adattatore-Scheda-2015-MacBook/dp/B07FYY3H5F/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2ASCKBR37M1IN&dchild=1&keywords=sintech+adattatore&qid=1605016958&s=pc&sprefix=Sintech+ada,computers,166&sr=1-1)

Here the kernel panic report:

panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff7f9ebcd231): nvme: "Fatal error occurred. CSTS=0xffffffff US[1]=0x0 US[0]=0x2e VID=0xc0a9 DID=0x2263
. FW Revision=P3CR013\n"@/AppleInternal/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/IONVMeFamily/IONVMeFamily-470.100.17/IONVMeController.cpp:5320
Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff914eb8b9e0 : 0xffffff801b71a65d
0xffffff914eb8ba30 : 0xffffff801b854a75
0xffffff914eb8ba70 : 0xffffff801b8465fe
0xffffff914eb8bac0 : 0xffffff801b6c0a40
0xffffff914eb8bae0 : 0xffffff801b719d27
0xffffff914eb8bbe0 : 0xffffff801b71a117
0xffffff914eb8bc30 : 0xffffff801bec1a6c
0xffffff914eb8bca0 : 0xffffff7f9ebcd231
0xffffff914eb8bcc0 : 0xffffff7f9ebb8362
0xffffff914eb8be20 : 0xffffff801be322d9
0xffffff914eb8be90 : 0xffffff801be321f9
0xffffff914eb8bec0 : 0xffffff801b75c605
0xffffff914eb8bf40 : 0xffffff801b75c131
0xffffff914eb8bfa0 : 0xffffff801b6c013e
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.iokit.IONVMeFamily(2.1)[2D554F70-092B-3B6B-B2AD-5C09EDB5B4F8]@0xffffff7f9ebaa000->0xffffff7f9ebecfff
            dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity(1.0.5)[FF23E772-067A-3614-B922-33C82CEC0CBF]@0xffffff7f9c79d000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[44472E6F-8DA0-3B46-ADEF-AFF76EC6C6DB]@0xffffff7f9c131000
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            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(2.1)[CB3CB8CA-881A-37F3-A96B-8063CAF0476D]@0xffffff7f9c310000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily(47)[72B53B80-5713-30C1-BAD8-9D55FD718DA2]@0xffffff7f9c4cc000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
19H2

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 19.6.0: Mon Aug 31 22:12:52 PDT 2020; root:xnu-6153.141.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 05D51A3D-3A87-3FF0-98C3-9CF3827A3EDD
Kernel slide:     0x000000001b400000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff801b600000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff801b500000
System model name: MacBookAir7,2 (Mac-937CB26E2E02BB01)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: YES (0x0)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 145642811307
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>!A!ILpssGspi    3.0.60
>!A!ILpssDmac    3.0.60
>!A!ILpssI2C    3.0.60
>usb.!UXHCIPCI    1.2
>usb.!UXHCI    1.2
>!AEFINVRAM    2.1
>!AEFIRuntime    2.1
|IOSMBus!F    1.1
|IOHID!F    2.0.0
$quarantine    4
$sandbox    300.0
@kext.!AMatch    1.0.0d1
>DiskImages    493.0.0
>!AFDEKeyStore    28.30
>!AEffaceable!S    1.0
>!ASSE    1.0
>!AKeyStore    2
>!UTDM    489.120.1
|IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice    422.120.3
>!ACredentialManager    1.0
>KernelRelayHost    1
>!ASEPManager    1.0.1
>IOSlaveProcessor    1
|IOUSBMass!SDriver    157.140.1
|IOSCSIArchitectureModel!F    422.120.3
|IO!S!F    2.1
|IOUSBHost!F    1.2
>!UHostMergeProperties    1.2
>usb.!UCommon    1.0
>!ABusPower!C    1.0
|CoreAnalytics!F    1
>!AMobileFileIntegrity    1.0.5
@kext.CoreTrust    1
|IOTimeSync!F    840.3
|IONetworking!F    3.4
|IOReport!F    47
>!AACPIPlatform    6.1
>!ASMC    3.1.9
>watchdog    1
|IOPCI!F    2.9
|IOACPI!F    1.4
@kec.pthread    1
@kec.corecrypto    1.0
@kec.Libm    1

How can I solve it ? I was reading about the tape.. Do you think it will work ?
Thank you in advance guys

 

[quaresma]

I’m still on Catalina so I haven’t installed the latest bootrom found in BigSur RC, but from the reports I see here, it fixes the hibernation issue. But what about overall battery drain? Does the new bootrom enable lower power states on 3rd party NVMes?