I doubt that they would. The 8800 GT runs quieter and uses less power than the X1900 XT.
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Upgrading old Mac Pro to 8800 GT graphics?
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I doubt that they would. The 8800 GT runs quieter and uses less power than the X1900 XT.
It is shipping, just not soon. This is what the order stub says:
Jan 9, 2008 at 08:39 AM PST - Order number xxxxxxx View order details
Not yet shipped
Product Qty.
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800 GT GRAPHICS CARD-INT
Ships by: Feb 29
Delivers by: Mar 6
100W (or 110W) for 8800GT vs. 130W for x1900XT? That single slot cooler is really optimistic.
If it didn't, why would Apple list the card as "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro"...
I just ordered one for our 2007 Mac Pro
Because apple doesn't stock outdated machines. The Mac Pro refers to the CURRENT mac pro, in case someone wanted an additional 8800 for 4 monitors. Anything on apples website refers to only current models.
They still sell the Radeon 9200 for G3/G4/G5.
I don't see why the 8800 GT won't be compatible...hopefully our UK friends who don't have to wait 5-7 weeks will let us know either way.
No. When there's an opportunity for confusion, Apple will label their products accordingly. For example, there are 2 types of X1900: one for the G5 quad and one for the Mac Pro.
Apparently Apple refer to the new Mac Pro as Mac Pro (Early 2008) according to the front page of this illustrious website. They also have a pretty good record of referring to different generation iMac's and iPods where necessary to distinguish. On something a) so potentially confusing, b) so hot topic and c) talked about everywhere, they would have corrected the webpage on the store if it really wasn't compatible.
Coupled with everything else I read about this card working in PCIe 1.1 in PC's then I am not at all concerned.
Errr....... talk me through that one.
And another vote for that! Going order one once the stock starts to catch up to the demand!
The price is too high! They're selling them for $230 now (the picture is not up to date there, the new version is dumping heat outside the case but alas, it has a non-standard PCB so it might not work with our flash at all). I could swallow $300, maybe, but at $350, they're pushing it. I'm thinking I'll flash that puppy. And I'm not entirely happy with the fan arrangement on the standard 8800. The rest of the MP is just supreme and then you have that 110W pig dumping heat into the case...
This is the card i'm hoping will flash once the rom is in. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319
I know people have it, i know it works. Its also comes overlocked. And its not overpriced, its actually in the right range. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...48+106791921+1067932704+1068310557&name=512MB
Besides the asus cards which i don't trust with that type of cooler on them.
Besides the asus cards which i don't trust with that type of cooler on them.
Check this out guys.
That is a KFA brand 8800GT. $240 after the rebate.
Compare that picture to the picture on the Apple Store page. Notice anything?
The only difference is a darker colored PCB stock. I will bet dollars to donuts that the KFA card would be identical to the Apple card. All I need is a ROM to prove it.
That is a KFA brand 8800GT. $240 after the rebate.
Compare that picture to the picture on the Apple Store page. Notice anything?
The only difference is a darker colored PCB stock. I will bet dollars to donuts that the KFA card would be identical to the Apple card. All I need is a ROM to prove it.
knome
thats the 8800 I have. It's ridiculous. It runs unreal tournament 3 with EVERYTHING on maximum at full resolution (2560x1600) at well above 30fps. It's awesome. well worth the little extra for the overclock and new chip.
have fun.
thats the 8800 I have. It's ridiculous. It runs unreal tournament 3 with EVERYTHING on maximum at full resolution (2560x1600) at well above 30fps. It's awesome. well worth the little extra for the overclock and new chip.
have fun.
I think it looks the same because thats the cards default cooler pattern. i.e. if the company doesn't make a cooler then thats what it will come with.
Right. That's the point.
Apple is most likely using a 8800GT reference board*, hence the reference heatsink.
KFA uses 8800GT reference boards as well, they just include a ROM image that's clocked higher than reference. If we replace this ROM image with Apple's ROM, boom, we have a carbon copy of their card.
(*I say this because the X1900 was an ATI reference card.)
Hey timb,
I've just seen something rather worrying on barefeats
http://www.barefeats.com/york2.html
What are the chances of being able to re-flash the ROM to EFI32 if this is the case?
*edit* Also, what is the likelyhood of the ROM having been written to contain both 32 and 64 bit versions?
I've just seen something rather worrying on barefeats
http://www.barefeats.com/york2.html
What are the chances of being able to re-flash the ROM to EFI32 if this is the case?
*edit* Also, what is the likelyhood of the ROM having been written to contain both 32 and 64 bit versions?
Interesting.
There isn't really a "EFI-64" and "EFI-32" as far as I know.
Current Intel Macs use EFI 1.10 Specifications.
As I understand it, EFI 2.0 supports hooking into 64-Bit extensions from firmware (whereas EFI 1.10 doesn't).
If new Mac Pros have EFI 2.0, I see no reason that current Mac Pros wouldn't receive a firmware update from Apple.
I honestly can't see any reason for Apple to change EFI revisions. It's not needed for PCI Express 2.0 or anything else the new Mac Pro has.
Let's assume the worst though. All might not be lost; when the original Mac Pro came out, several people got PC (BIOS) 7300GT cards working under OS X, how? It seems that, even though the cards weren't initialized pre-boot by EFI, the OS itself still detected them and took care of it. It did require people to have an Apple brand 7300GT installed to boot with, however. *
The hope would be for the same thing to happen with these 8800GTs. (Keep your 7300 / X1900 installed for booting.)
Like I said though, I don't think Barefeats is right on this.
(* This is anecdotal evidence. Several people claimed they got it working, others couldn't. It may have been only a specific brand of card that worked, or they were lying.)
Edit: The ROM could very well be backward compatible. It could really go either way, honestly. I will be very pissed at Apple if I'm not able to run one in my old Mac Pro. Seriously, there's no excuse. At all. This is 2008. We're running Intel Macs. Like I said though, I think we'll see a firmware update if that's the case.
There isn't really a "EFI-64" and "EFI-32" as far as I know.
Current Intel Macs use EFI 1.10 Specifications.
As I understand it, EFI 2.0 supports hooking into 64-Bit extensions from firmware (whereas EFI 1.10 doesn't).
If new Mac Pros have EFI 2.0, I see no reason that current Mac Pros wouldn't receive a firmware update from Apple.
I honestly can't see any reason for Apple to change EFI revisions. It's not needed for PCI Express 2.0 or anything else the new Mac Pro has.
Let's assume the worst though. All might not be lost; when the original Mac Pro came out, several people got PC (BIOS) 7300GT cards working under OS X, how? It seems that, even though the cards weren't initialized pre-boot by EFI, the OS itself still detected them and took care of it. It did require people to have an Apple brand 7300GT installed to boot with, however. *
The hope would be for the same thing to happen with these 8800GTs. (Keep your 7300 / X1900 installed for booting.)
Like I said though, I don't think Barefeats is right on this.
(* This is anecdotal evidence. Several people claimed they got it working, others couldn't. It may have been only a specific brand of card that worked, or they were lying.)
Edit: The ROM could very well be backward compatible. It could really go either way, honestly. I will be very pissed at Apple if I'm not able to run one in my old Mac Pro. Seriously, there's no excuse. At all. This is 2008. We're running Intel Macs. Like I said though, I think we'll see a firmware update if that's the case.